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whitewitch111
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posted April 08, 2016 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What aspects in the natal chart would denote BDSM fetish???

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PixieJane
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posted April 08, 2016 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just an observation, but I've been surprised how many Pisces suns and moons, male and female, loved to dabble or experiment in that. Though it's possible that they felt they could trust sharing that part of themselves with me so that they only seem more common when actually it was just they were more forthcoming about it. But of the ones I'm thinking of, none were actually long term members of the BDSM subculture (though I've known people who were without knowing their sun or moon sign). Come to think of it, I'm not sure it counts as a fetish as it wasn't necessary for their enjoyment and may just be a novelty they wished to experiment with briefly.

Of course, I mean consensual BDSM, not needing a lot of control or desiring to be very submissive (without the BDSM), or abuse and 50 Shades of Grey scenarios that get confused for BDSM (even if there's sometimes a BDSM element added in). Nor do I mean to include roleplaying (that might include teacher/student roles and things like that in which one dominates another, but not in a BDSM context), which offhand I can't think of a single Pisces sun or moon into that (not to be confused with turned off by it, just that they didn't seek it out or express interest in it), though it's supposedly popular at Ren Faires (don't know if it actually is, at least anymore popular than anywhere else).

ETA: just adding for clarity, not all that I know with one of these placements have ever expressed any such interest, just a surprising number, especially when compared to others.

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posted April 08, 2016 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScandinavianCrab     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know of two Scorpio and 1 Libra who was into this. The Libra was more into "just" submission/slave-thing while the Scorpios har more 'physical' preferences involved. The things ive found they have in common, after a quick glimpse' is earth moons. The scorps both have Virgo moons and The libra has cap moon.

IF you want to se positions in a male's chart who can't make himself do the things theese women above desired, look at mine

PS The women ive mentioned are all submissive. Please tell me if you know of any positions who could be the opposite

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posted April 08, 2016 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^^^ Maybe Venus/Pluto in a female chart.

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posted April 08, 2016 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astro keen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WW, I've been leaving messages for you in your recent threads. You seem to start thread and then disappear!

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posted April 08, 2016 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CapriciousCapricorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ScandinavianCrab:
I know of two Scorpio and 1 Libra who was into this. The Libra was more into "just" submission/slave-thing while the Scorpios har more 'physical' preferences involved. The things ive found they have in common, after a quick glimpse' is earth moons. The scorps both have Virgo moons and The libra has cap moon.

IF you want to se positions in a male's chart who can't make himself do the things theese women above desired, look at mine

PS The women ive mentioned are all submissive. Please tell me if you know of any positions who could be the opposite



Which houses their Mars Venus Moon and Sun fall into? Well I would like to see their charts but if you can't show them, maybe describe anything interesting about them if possible. Thanks

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posted April 08, 2016 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Pisces Sun. Also Scorpio Suns.

Venus opposite Pluto.

One person I knew who was definitely very into it is a Taurus Sun and Venus with Mars/Uranus/Pluto all conjunct in his H12/Virgo.

Another was a Scorpio Sun with either Pisces Rising and Cancer Moon, or the other way around. He looked more Pisces/Scorpio, so I'm thinking he had Pisces Asc.

The only people I've known who were regulars in the BDSM community were the Taurus, a Pisces Sun, a Libra Sun, and a Capricorn who had Mars in Scorpio.

Let's just place the automatic disclaimer here, and say that obviously not everyone with these placements is necessarily, by default, into BDSM.

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posted April 08, 2016 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Plutonian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know for certain that these aspects will result in BDSM, but I'm very into it so I'll list my aspects that probably cause it.

Pisces Sun
Pluto square Sun
Venus trine Pluto
Mars conjunct Pluto
Eros conjunct Venus
Pluto in 3rd house
3 planets in Aquarius.

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posted April 08, 2016 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pisces Plutonian:
I don't know for certain that these aspects will result in BDSM, but I'm very into it so I'll list my aspects that probably cause it.

Pisces Sun
Pluto square Sun
Venus trine Pluto
Mars conjunct Pluto
Eros conjunct Venus
Pluto in 3rd house
3 planets in Aquarius.


Venus/Pluto would seem a likely candidate.
How would you think that Pluto in H3 would contribute?

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posted April 08, 2016 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for missblyss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm I am a Pisces sun and I am absolutely not into that at all.

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posted April 09, 2016 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, Sag Sun can. It didn't seem to matter what the rest of the chart looked like.
They weren't all necessarily fully into it but on occasion would and always had a sexual tilt towards it. They weren't tender, that's for sure!

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posted April 09, 2016 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Astro keen:
WW, I've been leaving messages for you in your recent threads. You seem to start thread and then disappear!

I do I'm sorry.

I don't know why. I'm okay now. I wish I would have told you guys that

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posted April 09, 2016 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you guys!

What do you think with a man who has an 8th house Pisces sun/moon?

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posted April 09, 2016 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces definitely. Mars in a tight square or opposition to pluto tends to be pretty freaky and a little bit sadistic. Venus in Scorp.

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posted April 09, 2016 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by whitewitch111:
Thank you guys!

What do you think with a man who has an 8th house Pisces sun/moon?


I mean this in the nicest way, (also I'm a pisces moon) -- embrace the flaky. On a different note, he is probably highly psychic.

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posted April 09, 2016 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by whitewitch111:
Thank you guys!

What do you think with a man who has an 8th house Pisces sun/moon?


Lol. I would say yes. Well, I mean...it's not like it's an automatic guarantee, but the statistics are there.

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posted April 09, 2016 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pisces Plutonian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Violets:
Venus/Pluto would seem a likely candidate.
How would you think that Pluto in H3 would contribute?

I feel that this house placement manifests as a person who's mind is preoccupied with the dominant or submissive side of sex. Just what I feel.

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posted April 09, 2016 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whitewitch111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you guys!!!

Could a Taurus BML conjunct the MC out of the tenth house denote a submissive man?

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posted April 09, 2016 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for diamondbaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my opinion strong Scorpio/Pluto/8th house influence.

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posted April 09, 2016 09:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a thought that occurred to me:

What if all the domination & submission games of society, mixed with the often repressed or confused sexuality (and may include the painful control or dangerous surrender to one's own sexuality that goes on with a great many people) that causes Pisces to be more inclined to this?

For the most part, we're not allowed to admit that we're like this, even as most of us seek to enforce official and unofficial hierarchies in which some have a clear advantage over others or even go along with extreme oppression or war, but always lying about how there are higher principles involved and that it hurts the one doing the hurting more than the one hurt. And it can get downright surreal as some of the biggest egos even talk about how they've overcome all ego (and they seem to genuinely believe themselves).

Stick Pisces in that mess where there's classes, races, religions, and other factions seeking to dominate others (though often sublimated, perhaps like their own sexual desires, into an "acceptable form" but just as keenly felt), then the Pisces swims in and psychically breathes all that over and over. On top of that, they can sense (whether they want to or not, are conscious of it or not) the sexual desires of those around them, but also the self-loathing and repression of such, and they have to "swim and breathe" in this as well. Perhaps they're the most attuned at a psychic level on the subconscious vibrations that it seeks some sort of expression or relief (or are simply warped by it), and one manifestation is an increased interest in BDSM.

Maybe it's even an attempt to channel the out of control desires of our species to dominate (which when made part of our shadow manifests as the above because it's out of our conscious control) and thus help heal themselves and the rest of us in some small way by channeling it in a relatively harmless way, perhaps even making it conscious so that we can gain better control of it rather than keeping it part of our shadow selves where it controls us without our even knowing.

I may be onto something...btw, I have an 8H Pisces.

NOTE: that other Pisces finds different ways to resolve it doesn't mean that therefore it can't happen to others. It's never all or nothing (I love the subtle irony of this statement).

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posted April 09, 2016 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HadesFish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua
Virgo
Cap
Sag... Even when serious; it's also not necessarily a serious lifestyle.
Pisces... For fun, not as lifestyle, experimental, like Scorpio or Cancer here... Depends on person.

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posted April 10, 2016 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What PJ said.

Edit

For the record I never actually did this. 'Just wanted to say, as an 8H Pisces moon, I can see how I might have, under different circumstances.

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posted April 10, 2016 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Violets     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, nevermind. Odd tangent.

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posted April 10, 2016 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilverFeather     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it involves aspects between or to Mars/Venus/Pluto, either conjunctions or oppostions. I,too, second the suggestion of Pisces and Scorpio, water Moons seem to be common with that.

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posted April 10, 2016 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw it, Violets. Thanks, good to know.

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