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staborgi
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posted March 28, 2010 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
I know many people on here have done extensive research into the dynamics of a relationship based on synastry/composites/davisons but I am wondering...is there anything in any one of those that can tell you if a relationship will actually get off the ground? Basically I'm saying- what can you look to to help you figure out if a relationship is going to be significant versus just a crush/short lived?

I have been looking a little at name asteroids with this. I've found them to be significant in the natal chart (another person's name) and sometimes synastry too...but I'm wondering if anyone has any other methods they have found useful (even beyond the ones I've mentioned above).

Thanks, looking forward to reading your thoughts.

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glamgem25
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posted March 28, 2010 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glamgem25     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, great ???? Would be interested in knowing myself!!

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amowls*
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posted March 28, 2010 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
In the other progressed synastry posts, aspects between sun/venus and sometimes venus/mars. I havent been in a relationship yet where those werent triggered in the progressed synastry. Ive been in plenty of pseudo relationships where they werent present and none of those led to long term commitments (as in we never made it official).

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staborgi
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posted March 29, 2010 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
sorry...how do you do a progressed synastry chart?

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staborgi
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posted March 29, 2010 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
sorry...how do you do a progressed synastry chart?
(a comparison of progressed natals?)

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posted March 29, 2010 03:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, thats it exactly.

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staborgi
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posted March 29, 2010 03:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
thanks! just posted in the topic about progressed synastry about this relationship and the aspects I came across.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 29, 2010 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry, I don't think, even with progressions or solar arcs, or composites or synastry, whether a relationship will get off the ground... at all.
Things may 'align' a certain way to where it may seem like it will be long term, and then it's not because sometimes people aren't ready. Or you're not ready. Or maybe someone dies...you never know!

The potential, to me, is what astrology talks about. But the result is hugely personal...this is not something that can be determined with astrology alone. Relationships take two *people*, not just two charts. I'm sorry. I really wish it were otherwise.
But astrology is a map, and the map is not the territory.

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comica23
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posted March 31, 2010 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with MyVirgoMask, that we can use astrology to look for potentials. Not that astrology can't be exact, it can be, it's just we're not skilled enough to be that exact right now anyways, so I would think that going what our hearts tells us is more important than looking at the signs of the stars.

I didn't analyze much synastries, and the ones I did are of relationships I know in the real life, but I would think that if we want to see if there's any long term relationship potential, then we can check at each natal chart for a better understanding of how each person in the couple sees long term relationships as, and then see where they are compatible with each other, how they really match with each other, and if they really make each other feel like they're each other ideal partner by looking at the synastry.
This might sound basic, but I guess that they're important - inner planets compatibility for personal affinity, outer planets compatibility for compatibility of beliefs, philosophy and dreams, and one's inner to the other's outer planets compatibility to see if one's inner personality conflicts with the other's beliefs, philosophy and dreams.
Also, check for asteroid Juno, which is related to commitment and marriage, and Union. Valentine, Amor, Karma, Destinn can also be relevant too. By the way, I've found out that Boda, Groom and Briede can be meaningful too, related to the sense of commitment.

In the composite, which I find it easier and clear than synastry (but this is just me, different methods works for different people), I would bet on Juno and Jupiter aspects to personal planets to determine the feelings of commitment. Saturn can also be useful, and Saturn being involved in some midpoint aspects with the personal planets can show devotion too (like Moon/Saturn midpoint conjunct Sun, it can show that both parties are devoted to the relationship).
About brief relationships, I guess that they might often have too much Uranus influence, so that things can be really exciting but unstable too. Pluto or Neptune can be problematic too (too much sex or delusion/confusion), although I would think that it wouldn't make the relationship unstable like strong Uranus influence does.

Progressed synastry aspects doesn't always start relationships, but well, I agree that it can be a good method to spot current attraction patterns.


Actually, I would suggest the use of all these 3 methods to see the overall picture of the potential nature of a relationship. Synastry can show where the compatibilities and incompatibilities lies, composite can show how the compatibilities and incompatibilities manifests, and progressed synastry can show the current attraction trends.

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staborgi
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posted March 31, 2010 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
MyVirgoMask,
I agree...although I was interested in seeing what people have spotted that clued them into the beginning of a significant relationship, even in retrospect.

comica23,
thanks for your thoughts! It's interesting...I've had the same observations about those very asteroids (I'm assuming you mean within synastry? in that case definitely noticed some patterns related to karma, destinn, boda, groom, and briede). Jupiter/Juno in the composite I've noticed as quite relevant...especially in aspect to each other, I've noticed this with married couples. I guess Juno as a symbol of marriage and Jup as legality? What do you think? I hadn't thought about Saturn midpoints, good thought!

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