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Kismet* Knowflake Posts: 300 From: Venus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2009 10:35 PM
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2009 11:18 PM
So many midpoint aspects! X3 I think that they can be meaningful, specially when transits hits the composite midpoints and natal planets at the same time (or vice-versa), that it ends up affecting both the person and the relationship. What's your personal experience about it? Also, aside of the midpoint aspects, are there any other aspects from your natal charts to your composite?IP: Logged |
Kismet* Knowflake Posts: 300 From: Venus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2009 11:28 PM
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Metatron Knowflake Posts: 146 From: Slovenia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 03:19 AM
Yeah, a thread about midpoints in synastry i have a few questions myself. What avout these midpoints:her Sun/Venus on my DC (its 0°00, thats why i'm asking) her Sun/Moon on my Chiron. her sun/AC on my NN her Sun/Mars on my IC her Mars/Venus opposition my Sun her AC/Vtx on my Venus her Moon/Venus on my NN my Sun/MC on her IC my Moon/Pluto on her Mars my mars/AC opposition her Sun What do you think about these? I only know that Sun/Moon midpoint is suppose to be very important in synstry but I never got any info on some other important midpoint aspects. Oh yeah the aspects are under 1 or 2 degrees.
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Kismet* Knowflake Posts: 300 From: Venus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 11:28 AM
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Metatron Knowflake Posts: 146 From: Slovenia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 11:49 AM
Yeah getting an info on midpoints in synastry is difficult. I think one of the reasons is the fact that midpoints are more important for the natal chart interpretation and are not meant to be used in synastry in the way other point and planets are.I think i read somewhere, just like you said, midpoints represent the fusing of two energies. The placement of the midpoint in the natal chart would suggest as how these energies of lets say two planets would manifest. Here the midpoints are important cuz they tell us about our selves. I'm not sure as what it actually means if someone closely conjuncts your midpoint. If we take the midpoints into synastry we should only look for aspects they make to someones peronal planets, the points and objects that define someones personality in general. I think we should only look for conjunctions, maybe oppositions. I think i once found an interpretation of someones sun/venus midpoint con someone elses AC. As the sun/venus midpoint is suppose to symbolize our individuality, ego and our need for love and affection, fused together...placed on someones AC would mean that we would love and cherish this person for who he/she really is. I hope someone would enlighten us a bit more considering midpoints in synastry I have my moon opposite her sun/moon midpoint, but cuz its an opposition and its a wide one, i think 4°41' i don't really count it as important. However at least according to cafeastrology sun/moon midpoints conjuncting luminaries of the other person are an indicator of a potentionaly long lasting relationship, even marriage. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 427 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 12:18 PM
"Yeah getting an info on midpoints in synastry is difficult. I think one of the reasons is the fact that midpoints are more important for the natal chart interpretation and are not meant to be used in synastry in the way other point and planets are." I disagree
It depends on the system midpoints in synastry are regular part of both Hamburg School/Uranian Astrology and Cosmobiology. Cosmobiology is an offshoot of the former system. Cosmobiology doesn't use hypothetical transneptunians like the Hamburg School/Uranian Astrologers do. Both systems use conjunctions,oppositions,squares,semisquares,and sesquiquadrates. Hamburg School/Uranian Astrologers also other divisions of 22'30 aspects. another to keep in mind is that those types of astrologers don't use the house systems that we use. Hamburg School/Uranian Astrologers don't use zodiac signs whatsoever, and the Cosmobiologists put little emphasis on zodiac signs. also they use much tighter orbs than we do. Hamburg School/Uranian Astrologers use no more than 3 degree orb for aspects for conjunction,opposition,and square. take half of that for semisquares,sesquiquadrates. half of that for the 22'30 ,and even narrower. They use 1 degree orb for conjunction,opposition. In Cosmobiology
Aspects involving at least the Sun,Moon,Ascendant,Midheaven get no more than 5 degree orb aspects between Mercury,Venus,Mars get no more than 4 degree orb aspects between Node,Jupiter,Neptune,Saturn,Uranus,and Pluto get no more than 3 degree orb 1 1/2 degree orb is used for semisquare,sesquiquadrate aspects as you see, they use much smaller orbs than regular astrologers tend to use the midpoints work in Cosmobiology like the signs and houses work for us when it comes to finetuning a planetary placement/aspect 1 1/2 degree is used for direct midpoints which are conjunction,opposition 1 degree for indirect midpoints which are square,semisquare,and sesquiquadrate Cosmobiology and Hamburg School/Uranian Astrology are symmetrically oriented systems. It's all about geometry for them.
Cosmobiologists use Combination Of Stellar Influences (COSI) to interpret midpoints in natal,synastry,solar arc,secondary progressions,and transits
Hamburg School/Uranian Astrologers use Rulebook Of Planetary Pictures. The COSI is an offshoot of that book actually just like Cosmobiology is an offshoot of Uranian Astrology. Raymond
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Metatron Knowflake Posts: 146 From: Slovenia Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 12:34 PM
Thx Raymond, I thought as there is so little you can find on internet, midpoints are not used in synastry that much.Are there any books on midpoints in synastry? I agree about those orbs and spects, i would feel most comfortable with 1/2 or 1 orb with con and opposition. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 167 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 02:47 PM
I guess that when it comes to midpoints, only conjunction, opposition and squares are relevant, and they have to be within 1 degree of orb.By the way, Mars/Venus midpoint seems to trigger attraction, so that the midpoint person can be very attracted to the Sun person. X3 I also have this (with me being the Sun XD ), and it's also opposition, but it's 1º08' degrees thought. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 427 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 02:55 PM
semisquares and sesquiquadrates are relevant too. The orbs should be smaller than the conjunctions,oppositions,squares though. no more than 30 minutes of arc. in my natal, I have Moon sesquiquadrate Sun/Pluto with 5 minutes of arc,and I can relate to it. It probably helps me relate to Moon quincunx Pluto with 2'18 orb. I would use 1 1/2 degrees for conjunctions,oppositions 1 degree for squares 1/2 degrees for semisquares,sesquiquadrates the other 22'30 divisions I don't use, but no more than 8 minutes of arc seems reasonable. minor aspects aren't necessarily less important. They just need smaller orbs. Raymond IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 427 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 03:27 PM
there are no books on midpoint synastry Cosmobiologists use the COSI Uranian Astrologers use the Rulebook of Planetary Pictures there is also a book on midpoints by Don McBroom
Raymond
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Kismet* Knowflake Posts: 300 From: Venus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 09:28 PM
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 427 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 28, 2009 10:25 PM
They certainly don't like Saturn and Neptune. Ebertin didn't seem to either. Raymond
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