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Lucia23
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posted July 09, 2009 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
As I start to study minor aspects, I realize how delighted I am about quintiles in natal charts and synastry. I want to show mine to everyone.

Here are some of my natal quintiles:
Mercury quintile MC
Mercury quintile Karma
Venus quintile Eros
Venus quintile Valentine
Uranus quintile AC
Pluto quintile North Node
Juno quintile AC

Show me your quintiles!! What are your natal quintiles? Or quintiles in your favorite synastries?

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted July 10, 2009 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
try looking at your fifth harmonic.. quintiles turn into potent conjunctions.. this could be very telling about your creativity and even maybe a career and the way people see you. post it. 5th harmonic

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Lucia23
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posted July 10, 2009 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know anything re: harmonic charts...I don't even know what they are! This is my 5th harmonic chart:

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Lara
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posted July 10, 2009 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
AC quintile moon/venus/saturn/NN
valentine quintile eros

I have more bi-quintiles


BTW Lucia, i love the title of this thread... i'm gonna ask a man that next time i get chatted up lol

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aquarian/scorpio
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posted July 10, 2009 05:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquarian/scorpio     Edit/Delete Message
I have Sun quintile N.N and Jupiter quintile MC. I also have Moon/Pluto bi-quintile Chiron(not so sure what this could mean)

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amowls*
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posted July 10, 2009 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I only have Mars quintile MC

IM NOT TALENTED I have a lot of Noviles and Septiles though :]

Also my 5th harmonic chart showed a conjunction between Saturn and Uranus... that's what I have natally. They don't quintile each other. Also it had the Sun opposite BML (usually oppositions are biquintiles right?), and that's what I have natally too, there's no biquintile. What gives?

Actually all of my harmonic charts show Saturn conjunct Uranus.

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comica23
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posted July 10, 2009 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Natal:

- Moon/Venus Q Jupiter;
- Moon/Venus/BML bQ Saturn;
- Jupiter Q Saturn;

Synastry:

- his Mercury bQ my Moon;
- my Uranus Q his Venus;


XD

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Ruben
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posted July 10, 2009 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
Natal:
Moon quintile Neptune
Pluto quintile NN
Jupiter biquintile Uranus
Juno quintile MC
Pallas quintile Sun
Eros quintile Venus

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted July 10, 2009 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message
Amowls.

you dont need conjunction in the 5th harmonic..

im sure the noviles you have are very powerful in your ninth harmonic atleast i think the noviles deal with the ninth.

saturn and uranus should be conjunct.
as they are with mine as well. Im pretty sure natal conjunctions stick in the harmonics

a strong haromonic could be like a different version of the natal telling you a little more about yourself

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woah city
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posted July 10, 2009 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
psst, lucia! go to llcentral 2.0. if interested, email PA..

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Glaucus
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posted July 10, 2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

Jupiter quintile Juno
Juno biquintile Sedna
Jupiter biquintile Sedna


Mars biquintile Pluto
Sun-Ixion biquintile Midheaven
Mercury biquintile Eris
Venus quintile Vesta
Saturn quintile Makemake
Mercury biquintile Chiron in Right Ascension
Sun biquintile Pallas-Midheaven in Right Ascension
Eris biquintile Ascendant in Right Ascension
Mars biquintile Orcus in Right Ascension


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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milyi
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posted July 10, 2009 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message
I have:
Sun quintile Moon
Venus biquintile midheaven and north node
Mars biquintile Uranus

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lechien
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posted July 10, 2009 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
ok, so i got natally,

Sun quintile Pluto
Venus biquintile Vertex
Chiron biquintile AC
Chiron biquintile MC
NN quintile Juno

that's it! and as i posted on your original minor aspect thread, with the synastry with a very emotionally bonded friend i have an exact Moon biquintile Moon and exact Moon quintile BML.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted July 10, 2009 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message

The Fifth Harmonic: The 5th harmonic chart indicates talent, if any. In the 5th harmonic chart, all of the quintiles and bi-quintiles come together as conjunctions, making them very easy to spot. The semi-quintiles and sesqua-quintiles become oppositions. Quintiles are one fifth of a circle (72 degrees) and they give talent and power, and show our ability to put things together (pattern recognition). It also has to do with creative play, the joy of making up games of finding patterns (like looking for "patterns" of cracks in the ceiling, or always stepping on cracks in the sidewalk, or always avoiding the cracks). People with strong 5th harmonics do things like that all the time. Of course, taken to the extreme, this is a mental disorder, but those with a strong 5th harmonic usually manage to keep it under control, and then it becomes the basis for creative talent. You don't need a strong 5th harmonic to succeed as an artist, designer, scientist, or engineer, but it really helps.

Let's start with a negative example, a very negative example: Adolph Hitler's 5th Harmonic. Mercury, planet of communications, is opposite the Moon, Neptune, Saturn, and Jupiter. This gives a talent for communicating and power to his words. Chiron makes a conjunction to Mercury, as well as oppositions to the Moon, Neptune, and Saturn. Remember that Chiron is a "bridge" between the inner planets (which rule "normal," everyday functions) and the outer planets, which rule forces that are out of the ordinary. Chiron also has to do with a feeling of being wounded. Hitler was able to deal with his psychological problems (Mercury rules the 12th house in his birth chart) by communications. Now everyone born that day had similar configurations in their charts. Why was Hitler different? Well for one thing, the Moon was part of the configuration, and the Moon was in place for only a few hours. But his Mid-Heaven closely aspects his Moon, Neptune, and Chiron, and also his Sun providing a link between that powerful communication configuration and his personality. The Mid-Heaven is, of course, the career and the public image, showing that Hitler's whole personality was involved when he communicated in public. The fact that the German public also felt "wounded" after the defeat in World War I tied right in with Hitler's Mercury/Chiron quintile. Unfortunately, he dealt with these wounds by making more wounds.

A more positive example of a strong 5th harmonic chart is Mozart. In his birth chart, Venus (art) is powerful because it is his only planet in a Cadent House. This means that it is a singleton by house, and can draw all of the horoscope's energy to the 6th house (work). But the only apparent aspect seems to be a trine to Mars, and while this does add activity, it seems to leave poor Venus without connection to the rest of his life. Let's take a look at his 5th Harmonic Chart. Venus now has conjunctions with Pluto (extremes, obsession, intensity) and the Moon (which rules both one's own emotions and the ability to appeal to the public). In fact, there are eight conjunctions in his 5th harmonic, and each one represents a quintile or a bi-quintile in his birth chart. Talent on top of talent. The Sun and Mercury in that 5th harmonic chart make trines to the Mid-Heaven, making it easier for that talent to come before the public. Most of Mozart's first drafts were the same as his final drafts. He would hear the music in his head and write it down with few, if any revisions.


I know when I was younger I would always try to avoid the cracks. and when walking in a building would try to walk on the tiles in a specific way. I think to strong a 5th harmonic might make someone OCD idk.. if you think about all the little things they feel the need to do. im prolly wrong . lol whatev.. theyre you go. info on the 5th harmonic.

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posted July 10, 2009 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpionic Web     Edit/Delete Message
With maximum 1 degree orb:

Leo Asc Quintile Libra Moon
Cap Mars Quintile Libra Saturn
Cap Mars Quintile Libra Pluto
Scorpio Sun Semi-Quintile Sag Neptune
Cap Mars Semi-Quintile Sag Uranus

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Lucia23
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posted July 10, 2009 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for posting the 5th harmonic info! I am a writer, so I would expect to have a strong Mercury.

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posted July 11, 2009 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for songwriter     Edit/Delete Message
Venus quintile Jupiter
Jupiter quintile Pluto

and I've got two Biquintiles:
Venus biquintile Pluto
Pluto biquintile T. Node

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lalalinda
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posted July 11, 2009 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
Sun Q Mars
MC Q Asc
Moon bQ MC
Moon bQ Asc
Neptune bQ Mercury
Uranus bQ Saturn

I've also got a bunch of 18 degree aspects which are called vigintiles and are part of the Decile family.
(another postive minor aspect)

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Lara
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posted July 11, 2009 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
The 5th harmonic chart is amazing. wow

Thank you Star

I found i have
sun/AC/saturn/NN/all on the 29'.
I wonder if this is what makes me highly creative?

sun 29' virgo
AC 29' gemini
saturn 29' gemini
NN 29' gemini

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posted July 11, 2009 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
seeing stars - too funny i have a lot of quintiles and i just replied in the ocd thread about the counting and stuff!

i love my quintiles!

sun q mars
venus q jupiter
venus q neptune
saturn q ac
neptune bq jupiter
moon bq chiron

i always am happiest creating something, anything, pianting, song, carving, anything just creating anything.

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posted July 11, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
edit: finally got it after the third read. sorry.

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posted July 11, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
songwriter we both have venus quintile jupiter and we both write music.

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Lucia23
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posted July 11, 2009 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Lara, I read somewhere--wish I could remember where, I think it was actually in Cafe Astrology's guide to reading Solar Returns--that the degrees 29 and 1 are highly significant, representing turning points.

So with all that stuff at 29 degrees, maybe it could lead you to have exciting new ways of seeing things, adding to creativity.

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posted July 11, 2009 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptuneIllusion     Edit/Delete Message
Oooooo, I love quintiles. Why are they considered minor aspects when they are so powerful?

All under 2 degrees:

Sun quintile South Node
Sun quintile Vesta
Venus quintile North Node
Mars quintile Pluto
Mars quintile Ascendant
Mars quintile Vertex
Saturn quintile Part of Fortune
Neptune quintile Juno
Midheaven quintile Juno

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posted July 11, 2009 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

minor aspects just refer to aspects that Ptolemy didn't use. the aspects that Ptolemy used are known as the Ptolemaic aspects. They are also known as the major aspects.


Quintile and Biquintile was devised by astronomer/astrologer,Johannes Kepler based on musical harmonics. fiveness. the sesquiquadrate which is 5/8 was also based on fiveness, and he devised that aspect too.


"Kepler's new aspects were based upon harmonic theory and grounded in empirical observation of astrological effects. From his long-term study of weather conditions correlated with planetary angles and from detailed analysis of his collection of 800 birth charts, Kepler concluded that when planets formed angles equivalent to particular harmonic ratios a resonance was set up, both in the archetypal 'Earth-soul' and in the souls of individuals born under those configurations. [11] He considered this 'celestial imprint' more important than the traditional emphasis on signs and houses: "in the vital power of the human being that is ignited at birth there glows that remembered image..." The geometric-harmonic imprint constitutes "the music that impels the listener to dance" as the movements of the planets, by transit and direction, echo and re-echo the natal theme. In addition to the Ptolemaic aspects, Kepler proposed the quintile (72°), bi-quintile (144°) and sesqui-quadrate (135°). Extending the analogy of the musical scale, the quintile is equivalent to an interval of a major third (4:5), the sesqui-quadrate to a minor sixth (5:8) and the bi-quintile to a major sixth (3:5)."
http://skyscript.co.uk/kepler.html


Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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