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Topic: is my life going to suck?
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Mannequin Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 03:06 PM
and be really hard?Sun Square Saturn: Any success you achieve is due to hard work and extreme self-discipline, but your ambitions often fall prey to incompetence and bad luck. Unless you can overcome an ego-centered selfishness and stinginess, you're going to be beset by disappointment and frustration, giving you a negative attitude of the world. It seems you have more than your share of responsibilities but this is due to very difficult lessons you must learn regarding things associated with the houses occupied by the Sun and Saturn, and you learn everything the hard way. Your self-expression is limited by feelings of self-consciousness and inadequacy. You tend not to be close to your father and/or may lose him at an early age. You may marry a widow(er) or someone of a vastly different age. Your health may suffer from lack of vitality and you'll have dental and arthritic problems. Your children's health may suffer, especially the eldest's. Sun Square Uranus: You're self-willed, rebellious and apt to be abrupt and rude. Until you self-will is controlled, you'll have unexpected and sudden upsets. You can be erratic and eccentric and you must guard against hasty, impulsive and/or unwise actions. You may often destroy what you worked for by irrational behavior caused by nervous tension, and this is more evident in men. You have strong personal magnetism but your friends are more like followers. You have a tremendous pride and desire for freedom so you often ignore advice. You may even take extreme measures to impose your religious or moral views on others and must learn to respect others' opinions. Your ideas are original but often impractical. A real or imagined injustice will make you a terrible enemy and you may be unprincipled if your self-will is too strong. You're accident-prone and your health will suffer if unable to release nervous tension.
Sun Square Neptune: You try to hide your excessively emotional nature, often preventing you from seeing clearly when emotions are involved. You're often self-deceiving and may be self-destructive. You're sensitive to suffering and love animals. You may have a weakness in your character and/or be excessively confused psychologically. You tend to become involved in situations where others lean on you and, if Neptune is angular, you may become a victim of some type of deception. You usually underestimate your ability to succeed, so you often fail to follow through on your good intentions. If you're mystically inclined, you tend to feel superior or over-estimate your importance, and you must avoid cults. You have an overworked imagination and often have peculiar emotional desires and romantic tendencies. You tend to escape reality by avoiding individual responsibility and discipline. You must avoid get-rich-quick schemes since they inevitably end in disaster. In a woman's chart, males are usually the source of disillusionment and relationships with men require much sacrifice.
how unlucky am i lol
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blue moon Knowflake Posts: 373 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 03:14 PM
It will suck if you allow yourself to fall prey to self-fulfilling prophecy. These are cookbook definitions, allowing some idea of how the energies work so you can use them to blend them into the chart as a whole. There are challenges in tense aspects but also they involve lessons that allow us to grow and evolve as humans. You are not doomed to a life that sucks. If you read out the same thing in 20 years time you might say, "that sounds like me when I was younger." That is actually a quote from someone with Sun Square Neptune. It is possible to make the best of such an aspect. IP: Logged |
savanna20 Knowflake Posts: 82 From: ca Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 03:37 PM
It's not an easy transitIP: Logged |
Mannequin Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 03:45 PM
blue moon, i don't want to be challenged. i just want an easy life... i'm only 19, and it feels like i've aged so much in the past few years. it's too much. i envy other people who seem to have it easy. and i relate this all three so well, so when the part comes in about my future children having health problems, i'm like f*ck. savanna, those are my natal aspects. IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 490 From: Sacramento,California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 04:21 PM
do you have a t-square? Raymond
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Peri Moderator Posts: 481 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 04:28 PM
I have afflicted Sun too (square Saturn, opposition Uranus, quincunx Pluto, Moon and Neptune), no supportive aspect to it except trine from ASC/DSC. I dont think your whole life is going to suck but there will be some hard lessons to learn IP: Logged |
Mannequin Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 04:41 PM
i think i have like 5 t-squares >_< IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 373 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 04:51 PM
I have a friend with a multiple T-Square with the Sun and Mars. He annoys a lot of people with his attitude, but he is very driven and is a successful man. I can only guess at his horrible family background, I have had some glimpses. But it was a long time ago and he is happy enough in life all round, including relationships and family. This is a strong chart for working, so maybe as you are still young this hasn't kicked in yet. Get out there in the world of work and you might be a happier and more fulfilled person. You also have a Wedge, a bit wide and some people wouldn't count it, but Venus/Pluto in the 7th offers a bit of a release for all the tension in the dramatic T-Square. If you ever get the chance I would suggest setting up your own business in some capacity. Another thing... your Moon is Conjunct your South Node. I have a book Nodes: Life's Purpose by Helen Adams Garrett. In this she suggests that there is some emotional frustration relating to your family and your upbringing. You might be moved to break away at some point in your life. North Node in 12th she describes as:- quote: Purpose: To turn to my strength within when I am faced with problems, and to learn to deal with issues rather than cop out.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 72 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 06:12 PM
I know a boy with the same aspects, except that the sun aspect with saturn is not square but quincunx, which means the same thing as square because saturn is involved. I notice that he has a hard time listening to his parents and teachers (sun quincunx saturn), he thinks he knows everything and has an unrealistic notion of himself, along with a tendency to lie (sun square neptune), and he is adverse to rules and discipline (sun square uranus). Many not so good things have happened to him because of these 3 aspects, but it seems that for him, only experience will be a teacher. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 542 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 22, 2009 07:00 PM
Your life is undoubtedly going to suck some. On the bright side, most people's lives do suck now and again.There is a self-proclaimed successful business man here who has two of the Sun-squares you listed. I'm not real sure that business is your route, though. T-squares are supposed to be helped by concentrating on the part of the chart opposite the apex of the t-square, so for you that means Aries in the 12th. In practical matters I look at the 12th in two ways. One way is spiritual, and the other is creative. Since it's Aries in the 12th, you'll want to be initiating projects relating to the 12th house. Perhaps because of your 6th house stellium, you could initiate something with regard to spiritual healing or something. 6th house is "service" as well, so maybe something where you're taking the initiative in serving people in a spiritual or creative manner. quote: You also have a Wedge, a bit wide and some people wouldn't count it, but Venus/Pluto in the 7th offers a bit of a release for all the tension in the dramatic T-Square.
Yeah, that should help the oppositions. IP: Logged |
Mannequin Knowflake Posts: 63 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 08:53 AM
i've read alot about how i should go into something where i heal and stuff. but i want to be a dancer, a performing artist. although i study psychology and sociology, i have limited interest in being a psychologist or counsellor. i also study media studies and english, and i feel as though i should be creative through art and drama. i don't want to be of service to anyone.IP: Logged |
Dazzled Knowflake Posts: 10 From: It's a Fine City. Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 09:18 AM
For some, life isn't meant to be easy. There is a proverb, roughly translated means, The meaning in life, is from today's pleasures.Probably means to enjoy happiness as it comes. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 158 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 09:33 AM
Your chart is similar to Sting's chart, not with the same planets, but take a look at it. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Sting Even people with the easiest looking charts don't have the easiest lives. With more study you will learn that it is better to have some stressful aspects in your chart and that the hard aspects create action and development. Your T-squares are tools. Look up the definition of the word "machine". You need to have angles in order to make machines work. Don't decide that your life is going to suck before you TRULY understand what your T-Squares are doing. President Bill Clinton's chart, strangely, has barely any stressful aspects, but if you know anything about his life, his childhood and his life in general, you'll know that his life was anything BUT easy. http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Clinton%2C_Bill IP: Logged |
Musette Knowflake Posts: 6 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 23, 2009 11:43 AM
Those book blurbs read like the title is Depressing Astrology to Reinforce Negative Feelings. (If I were you, I'd toss it in the recycle bin and get a better book.) Most Saturn interpretations are written by people who don't get the planet. Saturn is giving you an opportunity to work (a bad verb for a lot of people, it seems) and in exchange you'll not only be good at what you do, you'll excel at it! Plenty of people who have this are successful. I can't think of many people more successful than Oprah... Sun square Neptune is a great aspect to have for theater or any type of creativity. It will allow you to see yourself in whatever you read, though, and that is why I suggest kicking that gloom and doom book to the curb. The worst thing in your chart is too much self-doubt. So get over it. It's only going to make your Aries rising miserable. That Aries rising combined with Sun conjunct Mars make you a little powerhouse. You have north node in Aquarius so belonging to a group (theater or dance or...?) can help you get to a place where you can shine on your own. Working with a group will also enhance your confidence. You will find mythic/archetypal and somatic psychologies more interesting the vanilla kinds. IP: Logged |
AcousticGod Knowflake Posts: 542 From: Pleasanton, CA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 24, 2009 12:13 AM
quote: but i want to be a dancer, a performing artist. although i study psychology and sociology, i have limited interest in being a psychologist or counsellor. i also study media studies and english, and i feel as though i should be creative through art and drama. i don't want to be of service to anyone.
That's cool. Go with it. Creativity is a service in itself. IP: Logged |