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Topic: jail aspects
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lovelyleo Knowflake Posts: 40 From: dallas, TX usa Registered: May 2009
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posted June 29, 2009 06:11 PM
what aspects show a person potentially going to jail or prison?IP: Logged |
GypseeWind Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Dayton,Ohio USA Registered: May 2009
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posted June 29, 2009 06:27 PM
thats funny, I was thinking that same question last night.IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 29, 2009 06:37 PM
Here's my brother's chart. Funny I was going to post it last night. He's getting out after 5 years and coming to live with me (again). Since he was a teen he was in trouble and in and out of detention centers and jails. Hoping this time he turns it around for good. I think he will. It's looking hopeful.I'd love insight from anyone here. I've looked at the chart a million times, but it's nice to have other's opinions. Thanks. IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 108 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted June 29, 2009 07:23 PM
This is just a guess... I haven't verified it with other charts other than my own so I could be way off.natal ruler of 12th House(institutions, prisons, etc.) conj natural ruler of 12th house (institutions, prisons, etc.)This increases the 12th house energy. Both are square Saturn, authority/responsibility. It's about the lines between "right" and "wrong" being blurred. My natal 12th House ruler is conj Saturn. That connection makes me averse to obey rules. I could have been arrested for some of the things I have done when I was younger, but maybe because my Saturn/12th House ruler is happening in the 12th House, I was able to get away with these things. They were hidden. My right and wrong are blurred in a sense that I can justify pretty much anything. There are a lot of greys in my reasoning whereas the law is black and white. Your bros' 12th House Rulers/Saturn connection is happening in the open unlike mine. And out of interest, I also have Jupiter (and Mars) in first which makes us probably take things for granted due to ease at which things may occur, e.g. "I'll never get caught" or "It's not so bad..." IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 29, 2009 09:27 PM
Thanks Unmoved. Interesting observation.What always struck me, was that for such a firey chart (Sun, Moon, Asc) all the planets are below the horizon.... He's definitely fiery, but it seems in some way or another it's had to be buried (underneath the horizon?) if that makes sense? Then there's 12 house ruler (Moon) conjunct Neptune (drug addict). Saggies ruler Jupiter conjunct Mars in the first house....says: woah. Lot's of energy and fire. True. Looks before leaping. IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 508 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 03:19 AM
The Moon/Sun/Neptune combo makes me think 'easily-lead'. Often the Neptune aspects get easier to deal with as the chart-native gets older. Hope things go well for you both. IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 30, 2009 03:30 AM
specifically, i was told sun opposite saturn with saturn in 12th. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2009 12:35 AM
Bluemoon,Yes, as street-wise and smart as he is, he can also be extremely naive about certain things. Thanks for the well wishes. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2009 12:42 AM
A 'blind leader' would be an appropriate way to describe him at times actually. And a bad bullshitter.He was the spokesman for the guys on his block. They voted him and he took the heat (from guards) but didnt care. Sag likes to stand up for what they think is right and for underdogs. He's always been that way. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 552 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2009 12:47 AM
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."And never your sister. lol He tries though. He's coming up on his Saturn return which I've explained some of what that's about to him (he's interested in it) and he's got to shape up. Now or never. IP: Logged |
Diana Knowflake Posts: 238 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted July 01, 2009 01:07 AM
For transits: jup/sat, jup/uranus are two that show up a lot. IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 226 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2009 05:24 AM
i found asteroid copland. 4532. I will look for more this afternoon. I checked on three charts of famous criminals, al capone, landru a french serial killer born in the 19th c, and emile louis, a serial killer/rapist born in 1934 (13days later than my grand ma!) well copland was not significantly adpected. But i didnt have teir time of birth so no angles. And maybe copland is not what should be prominent in the chart of such criminals. May be something a bit more gore i think. edit: i havent had the time to check for other asteroids today. IP: Logged |
Coffee Knowflake Posts: 603 From: Leeds Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 01, 2009 05:49 AM
quote: For transits: jup/sat, jup/uranus are two that show up a lot.
For Aquarian risers like Me/brother and sister, yes. 12th house aspects are what to look for. IP: Logged |