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Lucia23
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posted July 19, 2009 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
How do the Arabic Parts work in synastry? How important are they? How significant are the Arabic Parts conjuncting each other's planets and angles? And should you use these when comparing draconic to draconic synastry as well?

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Lucia23
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posted July 19, 2009 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
In the synastry I'm looking at now, we have (tropically):

MY:
Part of Love conjunct his Jupiter
Part of Lovers conjunct his Sun and Mercury
Part of Sexual Desire conjunct his Pluto
Part of Marriage conjunct his Jupiter and Psyche
Part of Destiny conjunct his Mars

HIS:
Part of Love conjunct my Sun
Part of Lovers conjunct my IC
Part of Karma conjunct my Pluto
Part of Sexual Desire conjunct my NN
Part of Marriage conjunct my Chiron

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Lucia23
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posted July 19, 2009 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Double post, sorry.

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lechien
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posted July 19, 2009 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
ever since i discovered my ASC exactly conjunct to the second to the "Part of Bad Luck", i've dismissed this whole Arabic Part thing as an outdated ancient bullsh¡t.

nah, not really, but i think the ones like Part of Love, Marriage, Karma are thought to be important, no?

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Lara
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posted July 19, 2009 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
lol

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lechien
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posted July 19, 2009 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
never looked into Arabic Parts in Draconic charts. that can be interesting, but i have no idea how that might be making sense. i can see it coming up with interesting results?

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Antiquarianbookcollector
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posted July 19, 2009 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry to ask another question but what exactly are arabic parts? How do they influence charts, etc.?

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Lara
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posted July 19, 2009 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hmm my part of love is conjunct someone's valentine exact.

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Lucia23
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posted July 19, 2009 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know what they are or how they work either, Antiquarian...Please, could someone explain the Arabic Parts and their significance in synastry generally?

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posted July 19, 2009 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
there are others who are much more knowledgeable than i, but basically, it's supposed to be pretty symbolic and self-explanatory (Part of Love cj. personal planet = romantic connection etc.)... and you have to keep the orb very tight, like 1-2 degree...? some may have potent meanings, but overall it looks a little archaic.

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posted July 19, 2009 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
o and i think you only use conjunction and opposition, then squares.

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Lucia23
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posted July 19, 2009 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
I was too lazy to look at oppositions--I wish astrodienst would calculate all this stuff for me!

Two of those aspects are at a 3 degree orb, the rest at 2 degrees or less.

Do you think Arabic Parts are sort of on the level as asteroids? Potentially meaningful, but not as meaningful as connections between planets?

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posted July 20, 2009 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
i think it can give the impression of the certain trend of the nature of the relationship? as you say, i wish astodienst would calculate it too! i'm much too lazy to look it up for each chart i look at (well, i'm not a professional astrologer so the number of the charts i look at are limited to my family and close friends, but still). i haven't quite had a "click" with it, although i like the idea. it may be like the asteroids, i guess, but i find asteroids very effective.

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posted July 20, 2009 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
Lucia, those Part conjunctions look intense (for lack of a better word- Part of Desire conjunct PLUTO- WOW). Do you feel those themes at all?

Libra & I (conjunctions within 2 degrees):

ME:

Parts of Marriage & Catastrophe conjunct his Moon
Part of Destiny conjunct his Chiron & Part of Allegiance
Part of Spirit conjunct his Venus (0 orb)
Part of Identity conjunct his Part of Fortune (0 orb)
Parts of Fate & Tragedy conjunct his Mars
Part of Happiness conjunct his N. Node (0 orb)

("Broken engagement" is written ALL over this)

HIM:

Part of Fortune conjunct my Venus (0 orb)
Part of Spirit conjunct my Eros
Parts of Love & Beauty both conjunct my Vertex & Jupiter
Part of Children conjunct my Ceres
Part of Marriage conjunct my Saturn
Part of Tragedy conjunct my Uranus
Part of Partners conjunct my Ascendant


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posted July 20, 2009 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Which arabic parts should I be looking at?

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Lucia23
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posted July 20, 2009 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Aerialcircus (and everyone), I think the solution to the more darkly fatalistic, crappy Arabic Parts is NOT to look them up, lol. Your Part of Marriages look good! Very binding.

I used this guide to see which ones to look up: http://ryoin.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/synastry-aspects-for-soulmates-and-twinflames/

But now of course I'm tempted to look at all the scary-ass "accident" and "tragedy" parts in my natal. There is something about all that business that appeals to my 8th house stellium.

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Lucia, those Part conjunctions look intense (for lack of a better word- Part of Desire conjunct PLUTO- WOW). Do you feel those themes at all?

Sure, I feel an unbridled lust, except with MY chart, of course, I bridle it.

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posted July 20, 2009 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
My bf's Part of Beauty/Love/Marriage of Man 2 (same as Love) around 15ºdegrees Capricorn is on his Sun/Moon midpoint that is around 16ºdegrees Capricorn, and my name asteroid in his chart is around 16ºdegrees Capricorn. X3

My Part of Marriage around 12ºdegrees in Cancer widely opposes these. My Sun/Moon mp is around 12ºdegrees Aries.

Our Composite Mars is around 16ºdegrees Cancer, Venus is around 12ºdegrees Cancer, and Jupiter is around 12ºdegrees Capricorn.
So our composite Venus/Jupiter squares my Sun/Moon mp and conjuncts/opposes my PoM, while Mars opposes his Sun/Moon mp and PoL/PoM2 and Jupiter widely conjunct these (Venus and Mars are conjunct). X3


On the negative side.. his Part of Divorce 1 around 5ºdegrees Aries widely conjunct my Sun around 2ºdegrees Aries. ;_;

...


*in self denial with the negative stuffs and be happy with the positive ones*

*edited*

yay his PoDestiny (PM) in Aries 5º01' conjuncts my Sun in Aries 2º39'~ X3

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posted July 20, 2009 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I really don't pay any attention to Arabic Parts myself.

The Arabic Astrologers also had their own lunar mansions too,and I am not into those either.

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/15/science/space/15xena.html?_r=1

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posted July 21, 2009 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
I finally calculated some Arabic parts!

I'm not sure how stable my relationship is with this person, but I noticed his Love part (hehe) is conjunct my Venus and his Fate or Karma is conjunct my ASC. And the other noticeable coincidence is his Destiny is conjunct my Pluto.

But I'm not sure how I feel about Arabic parts, they definitely are a pain to calculate, I wish there were better interpretations for so much work on our part.

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posted July 21, 2009 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aerialcircus     Edit/Delete Message
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Aerialcircus (and everyone), I think the solution to the more darkly fatalistic, crappy Arabic Parts is NOT to look them up, lol.

I couldn't help myself! Every time I find out about a new angle to astrology or a new approach, the ongoing joke is that it's going to tell me I'm impossible and/or doomed, and sure enough! I know my life and I know I'm fine, but holy cow funny. If my mother had any interest in astrology, she'd definitely be on the phone to my Aunt gossiping about my Part of Marriage being conjunct my Part of Catastrophe, because that's basically what they're usually talking about anyway (just with the astrology removed).

I'd be more willing to say, if I were going to give it all any weight, I could buy that it's like lechien said about overall trends (in synastry & natally) as opposed to some written-in-stone definition or premonition or what have you (like anything in astrology, really). Long-term love relationships ARE difficult for me, and do tend to end catastrophically, but I know I'm not going to die alone or anything like that.

I'm not going to die alone, right?

I had some good stuff thrown in there too (Part of Beauty & Part of Love conjunct my natal Sun & Valentine, for example), but they weren't nearly as hilarious as the idea of Virgo being out to get me.

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posted July 22, 2009 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message
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