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Topic: Neptune and Pluto... how's it going?
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bopbop Knowflake Posts: 162 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 06:13 AM
I have transiting Pluto conjunct natal Neptune ever pressing nearer 0 degrees, and I bet a lot of you do, too. Where is yours, and how is it treating you?Mine is in the 8th house. So far I've been having very strange lucid moments where everything feels real and unreal at the same time. It's not like anything important or exciting is going on... I could be walking down the street or talking to someone... and suddenly I have a vague sense that something isn't quite right, reality gets blurry and mortality painfully obvious. I realize that nothing exists the way I think it does, that my body in relation to the world is fragile and limited, and there is something hidden behind the veil. Its a very uneasy feeling yet I'm not afraid of it... Like trying to break the 4th wall. Is anyone else having this experience? Do you think those experiences are influenced by this conjunction? IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 773 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 07:46 AM
I started having prophetic dreams when Pluto moved on natal NeptuneIP: Logged |
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 08:29 AM
hey bopbop Mine is conjunct exact too (though separating now)! I came to this thread just after replying in the Yod thread... the thing for me is tPluto conjunct nNeptune is activating my natal Yod. So I'm going through some weird transformative stuff at the moment.. it feels like I am maturing, but at the same time, I'm not sure if I am ready for it? (or is just very intense maybe). I'm also suffering from some clouded judgement about how I am supposed to act and feel given my current situation, I feel confused and I don't know what to do. It's almost like a head vs. heart dilemma, and on top of this my heart is also being torn in two different directions (this could be Chiron talking though). I feel this is also setting me up for how I react to certain situations in the future. I think this is also an after effect of the eclipses as for me they set a lot of things into motion. The yod in my chart consists of Neptune sextile Pluto which are both quincunx to Chiron. I have some deep hurts that I am dealing with at the moment. I was hurt because my beliefs / hopes I feel have been well, used and/or abused I guess. But I am not sure if I should trust my judgement/intuition at the moment either. So, tPluto activating nNeptune (and the yod) is just making this a really confusing time for me! I feel like I am lacking direction. I also can't seem to concentrate at work like I normally can but that could be due to something else maybe. My mind keeps drifting to this issue that I have niggling in the back of my mind. I'm usually good at ignoring things that niggle at me especially while I'm at work But from what you're explaining... I think I have experienced this before. It's like you suddenly get super objective and you don't feel like yourself (but at the same time you know you are yourself!)? Almost like a third person looking in on yourself? I have had this, but not for a while. PS. Pluto conjunct natal Neptune is happening in 11th house for me IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 299 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 02:26 PM
bopbop, how you described your experience is very similar to mine (a few years ago). my neptune's in the 12th so i guess i had a double dose. i also became extremely psychic, but i had no distance from it. i would know what someone was about to say in a flash before they did, like an echo in reverse. this happened many times a day. it was both strangely comforting and rather disorienting and weird. would have helped if i understood the transit back then, but i knew nothing of it. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 348 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 18, 2009 08:04 PM
peri what house is your neptune in?when pluto went over my neptune (h5) i conceived. this was about the time also that t.jupiter was going back and forth over my natal jupiter in h4. IP: Logged |
starkiss1 Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 01:11 PM
I would avoid deep waters at the time of precise conjunction IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 773 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 01:26 PM
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Peri Moderator Posts: 773 From: 49N35 34E34 Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 01:26 PM
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 426 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 01:53 PM
tPluto is some 2 degrees apart from my nNeptune, yet it seems that the conjunction is already in effect. I feel that I'm beginning to have a deeper realistic view to the world. It's like tPluto doesn't destroy my Neptune dreams, yet makes them more in tune with reality.tPluto is also trine my AC and widely trine my Mars, and also sextiles my Pluto, so basically I'm indeed liking this transit. X3 The only hard thing might be squaring my Sun, although that's also good for me to learn valuable lessons. My Neptune is in the 5th house. IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 162 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted August 19, 2009 07:29 PM
"I'm also suffering from some clouded judgement about how I am supposed to act and feel given my current situation, I feel confused and I don't know what to do. It's almost like a head vs. heart dilemma, and on top of this my heart is also being torn in two different directions (this could be Chiron talking though). I feel this is also setting me up for how I react to certain situations in the future. I think this is also an after effect of the eclipses as for me they set a lot of things into motion."MsCandeh, I've read that Pluto can clear to fog that Neptune produces. I'm hoping the sextile between Pluto will make it less dream-shattering than it might be otherwise... maybe by the end of the transit you'll no longer feel confused about your role in your future. Like what comica is talking about. Have many Capricorn issues come up? Peri and woah city... that is interesting. Any latent psychic ability I have only activates with certain people (two of them with very similar placements in their charts). I can relate to that "backwards echo" thing. It became a game for me though, to predict what someone was going to say/do, even full sentences. They would do as I predict an instant before, and I'd be like, point! It was so consistent it became normal. I remember with those people, I would also say something that I thought was already common knowledge, and it turn out not to be... like "hey so when are you leaving for Singapore?" "How do you know I'm going to Singapore? I haven't even told anyone yet." I'd have no idea how I even knew... it was just automatic. None of that is really going on right now, though. It might have been a synastry thing. Avoid deep waters? Haha, I've been diving into lakes a lot lately. Skinny dipping too... I've never done that before. For some reason right now I just don't mind being naked in front of people. Oh Neptune and Pluto sure make an odd pair. IP: Logged |
starkiss1 Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 20, 2009 02:24 PM
BB,that's my point,make sure you dive safely! IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 20, 2009 04:07 PM
hey bopbop I'm not quite sure what issues would be considered Capricornian ... issues relating to success, ambition, hard work? One thing I have come to realise recently (now this could be Capricorn/Saturn talking) is to expect the worse, and anything better than that is just a bonus! But this piece of advice came from a Neptune-ruled Pisces friend lol One thing I did come to a decision about just today - I'm going to rent out my house and move in with my brother for a bit to save some money (will pay him rent, but not as much as my mortgage is! And this will reduce my bills too). I just remembered that today is a New Moon and the end officially of all this eclipse stuff, though I know the energies will be around for a long time afterwards. But I do feel a bit clearer today! Certainly its been very confusing for me recently. I am still not sure what to do regarding a certain situation in my life. But at least now I have something to look forward to tPluto is currently 0 deg and 14 minutes separating conjunction with Neptune (though in retrograde) I just read what Peri wrote (somehow missed it before!) I did have a very distrubing dream at the start of this month which I am hoping is not prophetic. It was certainly profound. At the time I woke up tPluto was conjunct nNeptune 0 degrees and 04 minutes applying conjunction! I do I made a dream chart and posted it on Node's thread. The name asteroids in the dream were very accurate. One person's name asteroid was in the 8th house (also ruled by Pluto) which was very significant to my dream. My name was conjunct the DC and the other person's name was conjunct the sun within 10 - 20 mins. oh this is a long post, sorry to babble on!! IP: Logged |
alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 13 From: Somewhere over the rainbow Registered: May 2009
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posted August 21, 2009 10:26 PM
In my 1st house...exactly square my MC and sitting on my Progressed ACdon't even know what's real anymore. ------------------ Knowledge is power. Quincunx'd http://www.quincunxd.wordpress.com IP: Logged |