posted September 17, 2010 09:38 PM         

I get personal planets conj the nodal axis, and Jupiter, Saturn, but the outer planets I'm unsure of their significance.

posted September 21, 2010 05:47 PM         

I always wondered the significance of my NN (18' aries/ruler mars) cj my partners mars. I'm going to have a think about this article and my aspect and come back to you tomorrow

posted September 21, 2010 09:34 PM         

I know that Uranus is the awakener, and it's been postulated that the planet person has a lesson to learn from the SN person to repay a debt, but since outer planets are really never mentioned with the nodes I became really curious..esp since my Sun (asc ruler) is also square his nodal axis.

We actually have a lot of nodal interchanges,
-our nn rulers are conj
-our sn rulers are trine
-his nn ruler square my sn ruler
-his merc (also asc ruler) conj my sn
-my uranus (also dsc ruler) conj his sn
-my sun (also asc ruler) sq his nodal axis

........and then I find interesting that Noel Tyl doesn't even differentiate nodal contacts in terms of debt, but rather emphasizes mutual nodal conjunctions and/or squares as being the ties that bind, not exactly concerning longevity, but in terms of mutual importance to each other. Which is an interesting addition adding the squares....as natally squares to the nodal axis are obstacles that need to be overcome on the way *to* the north node....He's stating something to the effect that squares to the nodal axis in synastry are traits that the node person can utilize to realize their NN, basically that by in some way "using" the planet person that their goals are closer to being met.. that they're not an obstacle or hindrance in synastry. And the use doesn't have to be negative, it could be as simple as utilizing someone else's talents along the way (what i see to be the usual manifestation)..in this way I see the person with a squaring planet playing a key "teaching through example" role to the nodal person.

There's one person whose chart i've been reading for a while and she always seems to be in contact with people with early aquarius and i always wondered *why* because that point is unaspected in synastry save for a square to her nodal axis and she always places great importance on these relationships, it was just so strange to me.
So lately I've been entertaining the square as very relevant in synastry with the nodes, just as it is in natal. However the stress thats natally experienced isn't the same in synastry, so far..

posted September 22, 2010 01:39 AM         

I'm glad to see you found some info on your topic :-)

I hesitated as to whether I should reply or not (just to avoid an argument with one person on LL).

I'll print out the articles to read at home ;-)

~ Lana

posted September 22, 2010 04:40 AM         

I always wondered the significance of my NN (18' aries/ruler mars) cj my partners mars. I'm going to have a think about this article and my aspect and come back to you tomorrow

posted September 22, 2010 05:16 AM         

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What would this mean for the people involved

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For help understanding Nodal contact, I like to compare the Node person's Draconic chart with the other person's Tropical.

It gives more details about the purpose of the Node contact.

posted September 22, 2010 09:43 AM         

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It gives more details about the purpose of the Node contact.

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posted September 23, 2010 03:00 AM         

meta_4,
is it or lol trapped would be an accurate description, yes indeed. anddd it's in Cancer, so it's like the pincers are reaching out, you know how they get anddddd he has Saturn in h12 conj his asc, omg help me (or is it help him, since I don't even want to imagine...) I have run away many times, but the course of my life (nodal path) has always brought me back to him...oooh they do say Saturn has those strings, don't they....Yes karmic sounds correct. That to me is Saturn, the tie that binds no matter what, you could cut it off and they'd still be there to teach you something new, to 'enroll' again so-to-speak.

I do believe NN conj Asc could be positive, quite, but to me the caveat is, are there squares to this axis? I have 3 natal squares from hard planets to my nodal axis, and they're all squaring his saturn/asc..and then others who just have their asc conj my nn, well, it still isn't always pleasant. My stellium is in Libra, and I find that when I reach balance I can withstand anything thrown my way, but it takes a lot of work to reach that calm steadied state.. So I'm remarking more on my natal set-up regarding any possible negatives vs. the NN connection by itself.
There was another person who changed my life tremendously, and his NN also conj my Asc (not Saturn), and I see NN/Asc as simply that, life changing encounters that drive the NN person closer to where they're meant to be. Not necessarily lasting, not necessarily positive (in the short term), but in the long term, looking at it from a more holistic (spiritual) perspective, a very great gift.

Yes the one with Saturn knows he has a restrictive influence. We do agree to disagree on some matters. I do confuse myself in the relationship thinking I can hold him responsible for other things that I have to work out (my squares) I add tension when I lose perspective of what his presence means in my life, I tend to give it greater importance than it deserves as I'm meant to work on more things than just the issues concerning my node....For some reason I keep thinking it's all going to be resolved through him, but I have to keep reminding myself there's more to my path than that.