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allouette
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posted December 22, 2010 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe you can tell me what's 'wrong' with my chart
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5754/chartg.gif

...because sometimes it's so hard to be me!

feel often frustrated, misunderstood and disappointed, and i have the tendency to withdraw when i feel that i cannot reach that 'emotional peak' with someone

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Chaos
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posted December 22, 2010 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First thing I thought about when I opened this post & saw your first sentence was Moon opposition Pluto - and you've got it! I don't think 9 orb is too wide (though it's usually up to 8, right?), the effects of it can still be felt...

I have this aspects also Taurus Moon/Scorpio Pluto, and I think it's my worst aspect in the whole chart! I also feel quite "...frustrated, misunderstood and disappointed, and i have the tendency to withdraw when i feel that i cannot reach that 'emotional peak' with someone..."

Also, Moon opp Saturn can be dreadful...

Don't know about the rest, gonna have to check it better!

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allouette
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posted December 22, 2010 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chaos, my opp is in 2 degrees

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Glaucus
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posted December 22, 2010 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by allouette:
maybe you can tell me what's 'wrong' with my chart
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5754/chartg.gif

...because sometimes it's so hard to be me!

feel often frustrated, misunderstood and disappointed, and i have the tendency to withdraw when i feel that i cannot reach that 'emotional peak' with someone



Your Moon is in 12th which can indicate emotional nature can be hidden which can lead to misunderstandings. It can also indicate tendency to isolate.
There is an opposition to Saturn which can indicate that your emotional nature can involve restrictions,limitations. You can put too much of a rein on your feelings. It can also indicate the tendency to isolate too. It squares your Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis very closely,and so it involves your aim in life, social status, domestic environment,and unconscious. It's not easy configuration to handle, and it can indicate a highly serious disposition which can lead to pessimism and even depression.

Your Moon is quincunx Uranus which can indicate that your emotional nature can be unpredictable and you can be detach which can be an emotional strain to. It would require adjustment.


I use orbs no more than 5 degree orb.
I also use no more than 3 degree orb for transneptunian dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates like Pluto. Therefore, I don't count a Moon oppose Pluto in your chart.


However, you do have a strong Pluto influence.
You have Sun conjunct Pluto with less than 1 degree orb.

That aspect would indicate your great intensity of vitality,ego,self expression.

Your Pluto is also oppose/conjunct the Antivertex/Vertex axis with only 20 minutes of arc. That is also an indicator of great intensity. It involves your self and relationships. Antivertex is an auxilliary Ascendant, and Vertex is auxilliary descendant.


Your Sun-Pluto oppose/conjunct Antivertex/Vertex indicates your great intensity.

Your Moon in 12th oppose Saturn,square Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis, quincunx Uranus indicates your tendency to be misunderstood,frustrated and withdraw. It can indicate trust issues connected to things involving the family including especially the mother.

The Moon in Taurus in 12th oppose Saturn in 6th can indicate serious security issues. Your Juno is retrograde in Taurus in 12th house. It can also indicate security issues.
Your Venus is Virgo which is the fall placement for Venus, and that can indicate problems with love,relationships due to a perfectionist nature. It is also conjunct Mars which can indicate passionate love nature. The Venus-Mars square Jupiter could indicate issues with judgment that could affect your relationships.

Your Chiron conjunct/oppose Ascendant/Descendant axis indicates that you're the wounded healer type. It could indicate that you experienced great hurt and it effects you in how you relate to others.
Your Sun is conjunct/oppose the Chiron Nodes. That also suggest being a wounded healer type, but on a collective level. You have a strong connected to collective wounds. You could end up being a healer and teacher in connected to the collective.
The Antivertex/Vertex axis is opposite the Chiron Nodes, and that also indicates the emphasis on wounds and healing involving self and relationships. With the Pluto involved, the wounds and healing involve intensity and transformation.


I don't think that you have too much intensity. You're just being you.


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Chaos
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posted December 22, 2010 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chaos     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, Glaucus, always explains much better & in detail , so there's no need for me to add much to this...

Yes, your SATURN opp to Moon is 2 degrees, but your PLUTO opp to Moon is 9 ...I think those opps "kill" you, at least that's how it is for me... Apparently, and in short, there's a possible conflict between your external personality & your suppressed emotions that come subconsciously and bother the hell out of you...

Sun, Pluto & Saturn conjunct, can make bit of a difficult, unsatisfied personality, but also it's a strong aspect of a survivor that doesn't give up, keeps on going through life, regardless the difficulties that life can bring...Though people that have this placement can often cause more trouble to themselves & people around them, than life itself can cause them...lol...

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VenusDiSirius
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posted December 22, 2010 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th H uranus is timed bomb. Frustration causes the energy to accumulate.
But i think that main thing with you is pluto/moon aspect.
When pluto was transiting my moon... Damn,intensity is understatement. Moon is receptive planet,absorbs everything... And when everything is pluto,well.. It gets tough

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Glaucus
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posted December 22, 2010 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The intensity can easily be explained by the Sun conjunct Pluto less than 1 degree orb.

IMHO a Moon oppose Pluto of over 8 degrees is really stretching quite a bit

the things that she said about frustration,withdrawal fits the Moon in 12th oppose Saturn square Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis,quincunx Uranus


If she left her birthdata, I'd check to see if she has strong aspects to Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates.

Sun conjunct Pluto less than 1 degree says it all about her intensity. That Sun-Pluto conjunction is conjunct the North Chiron Node.
It would be far more felt than a Moon oppose Pluto of over 8 degree orb.

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allouette
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posted December 23, 2010 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for allouette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wooow...thanks a lot Chaos, Glaucus and VenusDiSirius!

@Chaos - you have similar aspects? how does it feel?

@Galucus - I'm impressed, you see through me, I know my chart so well but still unable to see all these things by myself regarding your question about dwarf planets, well...i have Sedna (7 degrees Taurus) conjuct Moon (8 Taurus) and...Pholus (16 Aries) conjunct Eris (17 Aries); Ixion (16 Scorpio) conjunct Quaoa (16 Scorpio)

@Venus - Uranus also opposes my ASC, haha, sometimes i feel like an 'atomic' bomb

However, I wouldn't say that all these complicated feelings fully describe me. I am more a lighthearted type of person and enjoy life alot, and when I feel this intensity (related to people), is mainly when I fall in love. Shortly after I get disappointed and feel that 'real love' doesn't exist, I run away, people come after me but I don't want them anymore. People think that I am a very strong person, don't know what's the truth...sometimes I would just prefer to be weak and take things as they are

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winter
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posted December 23, 2010 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for winter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by allouette:

...... and when I feel this intensity (related to people), is mainly when I fall in love. Shortly after I get disappointed and feel that 'real love' doesn't exist, I run away, people come after me but I don't want them anymore.


With a natal Venus Uranus square and a Sag descendant you have a double dose of ‘don’t fence me in’ that probably contributes to being misunderstood especially with intimate relationships.

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