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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2011 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are patterns you've played out in more than one relationship, and how do they show up in your chart?

EDITED: I don't mean astrological patterns (like which chart placements/synastric aspects you're attracted to)...but your own behavioral patterns--ways you've acted in more than one relationship, or types of relationships you've had. And then, looking at what in your natal corresponds to that behavior.

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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2011 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My chart:

-Moon-Saturn conjunct in Cancer in the 7th
-Venus in Cancer in the 7th
-Sun-Mercury in Leo and Mars in Virgo in the 8th

My patterns it's time to outgrow:

-I will hook up with an independent, adventurous, intrepid, freedom-loving, wild guy (they usually have almost zero water in their charts)....and then over time, he will turn into my mother!! Caring for me, cooking, cleaning, being my confidant...and then I'm less passionate about him, because he's acting like my mom

-Out of insecurity, I try hard to hide how much I'm interested in someone (I realize how crazy-immature this one is...it made sense when I was a teen, but not now)

-I can get really obsessive...not like stalker behavior, but just inside my own head, I'll start thinking about whatever guy I'm most into ALL the time, writing about him, looking at his chart, everything will remind me of him...in a long-term relationship, I get so I'm ALL about the guy. People will ask me, "How are you?" and I'll tell them how HE is ("J. has a gig in Australia")...I use this I think to hide from my own life?

-When I'm in the obsessed phase, I cry and call my mother. When I make myself not do that, I overshare with friends who act like my mother

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Betty Boop
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posted March 04, 2011 03:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like this question, but I don't think I have an answer.

My main relationships have been -- My first love -- My bf of two years -- My other "bf" (more like a friend with benefits) -- The man I've never had a proper relationship with even though we're both very much in love -- and, -- The man I am engaged to, even though I am not at all 'in love'. (odd? ya think? lol)

I have to say these relationships have no patterns, no connections and almost no similarities. I think I've been very different towards these men. They all brought/bring out different sides of me -- as they are also very diverse - personality wise, appearance wise, job/career wise and in every other way lol

Maybe the lack of patterns is a pattern in itself...
My Venus is in the 11th house - This could show having erratic/Uranian patterns and ending up with a wide variety of people.

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posted March 04, 2011 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Last few partners have had either Scorpio Rising or Venus/Mars square Pluto. I just finished a tPluto square Venus/conjunct DSC transit.

Also tend to date people with Virgo Moons or are Virgo rising.

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posted March 04, 2011 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've in my natal chart saturn square moon. I've in my both marriage got an saturn square aspect in composite. My house 5 ruler are pluto/jupiter/saturn. My both ex marriage have there AC and juno in scorpio and I've my juno conj pallas in scorpio.

I 've never been in love without connection to my venus conj N.N conj mars. My moon conj nessus in gemini must also triggs.

Thats my romantic patter
I need strong contact to my venus/mars and moon.


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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2011 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betty Boop, that's so interesting! It does sound a little like a pattern--a healthy, good one--that you see each man/each relationship on its own terms, instead of trying to fit it into a box.

Amowls* and Popcorn, I mean behavior patterns--for example, like my friend (about ten years older than me, in his 40s) who has had a series of exactly three-year-long relationships. All of the women are younger than him, warm, sweet, and a little lost. He moves them into his apartment after a year, then gets colder and colder, and then, near the three-year-mark, every time, he decides, "This isn't working." Or my other friend, in her late 20s, whose pattern is unavailable men--married, long distance--who toy with her emotionally. Or people who get into abusive relationships multiple times.

Positive patterns too, though.

And then I'm interested in seeing if these patterns are a way of manifesting the natal chart.

I was inspired by Donna Cunningham's article where she says that, after 40+ years as a professional astrologer, she's learned that people's HISTORY in relationships is way more important and revealing than anything astrological.

I'm thinking that looking at real life relationship patterns--so, not so much the placements or synastric connections we're drawn to, but how we act--might be a way into working constructively with natal charts.

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posted March 04, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my natal Moon (3rd) is square Jupiter (6th).

I've gravitated to guys that have Sun square Jupiter in their natal.

And Mars-Neptune aspects, usually the square or quincunx, I have the square in my chart and having the same music taste is a requirement for me. I usually date musicians/artists...

Also I gravitate towards those whose ASC. is either Leo or Aquarius... Leo and Aquarius are inverted in my chart, Aquarius is in my 2nd H and Leo is located in my 8th H.

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posted March 04, 2011 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the link to that Donna Cunningham article...I posted about it in a different thread, too:
http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/chart-clues-to-marriage%e2%80%94will-you-or-won%e2%80%99t-you/

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Furthermore, having followed many clients’ and friends’ charts’ over the past 40 years, I’ve come to believe that astrology isn’t the best predictor of whether an individual will meet and commit to a partner. HISTORY is a better predictor, and the astrologer who doesn’t get a relationship history from the client is likely to prove inaccurate.

What I’ve observed is that there are relationship-prone people and people who aren’t relationship-prone. The person who isn’t relationship-prone can sometimes have transits or progressions that look ideal for love and not meet a soul, much less a soul mate. Relationship-prone people can have either the worst or the most piddling tranits for romance, and they fall head over heels and hook up with a partner. Go figure.


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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2011 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In terms of being "relationship prone," I always thought I was, but now things are really lonely.

From the time I was a young teen, I always had a boyfriend, but sometimes the boyfriend wasn't the same guy I was in love with. (Is this the fact that I'm a 7th house Moon and Venus, but ALSO a 7th house Saturn? Or tension between my Leo Sun and Cancer Moon?)

My first relationship lasted three years. Then, for two years, I had two on-again, off-again relationships (when one was on, the other was off) until I was 20. Then I was with one of those guys into my 30s, we were together almost 15 years.

Since him, I've only been with one guy I was serious about and it only lasted 5 months.

But I'm hoping I'm still a "relationship-prone" sort! And that it's just that my long term relationship was so big and serious, I haven't been ready to really connect with someone new.

Cookbook interpretations say that Moon or Venus in the 7th is felicitious for romance, and that Saturn is hard and lonely, so I have those things battling!

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posted March 04, 2011 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for persephone33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sure you'll find someone wonderful, Lucia. Just keep thinking positive thoughts.

As for me, my romantic patterns are the following:

Sun & Mercury in the 4th
Venus in the 5th square neptune in 7th
Saturn in 3rd but very close to IC
Mars conjunct Ascendant
Scorpio in descendant


I tend to attract very outgoing, ambitious and determined men who are forthright and honest. Physical chemistry is typically hot and heavy. After awhile, I start getting tired of the top priority always being on the physical aspects of the relationship and want to balance the physical with mental and emotional compatibility and an agreement on commitment. Most of them usually agree to commit but only on their terms (which was always the same spiel: they wanted me to stay home and take care of family life- home and kids). I say no and walk away from the relationship.

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Lucia23
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posted March 04, 2011 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's so interesting, Persephone--I wonder if it's your 4th house Sun/Saturn near IC that makes guys think, "I want her to stay at home with my babies"?

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posted March 04, 2011 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnFKennedy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A moon is usually conjuncting an angle somewhere. In my most significant relationship, his moon was directly on my IC, and in my most recent one, my moon is on his AC/North Node.

Oh, and there has to be something prominently Sagittarius! It's probably because Sag is on my IC, so there's a deep comfort level there, plus whatever they have in Sag will trine my Venus in Aries in the 7th, which makes for a delicious combo. The first guy had a Venus/Moon in Saggittarius, and the second one has a Sagg Mars.

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