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LakiSG03
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posted June 24, 2010 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LakiSG03     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So a friend of mine and I were talking about the characteristics of the different signs in Mars.
She said to never trust someone with Mars in Scorpio because they are prone to having secretive affairs and are cheaters in general.

I know that's such a vague statement and so many other parts of the natal chart must be looked at. But I was wondering if anyone noticed that this might have some truth to it?

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posted June 24, 2010 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My childhood friend has Mars in Scorpio. He was faithful for a decade, but eventually things ended. I'm not sure what he is like now. That was his first serious relationship.. and it lasted a whole decade. I find fixed signs have staying power.

My grandmother was faithful for 50 years.
Venus and Mars and Moon - all in Scorpio.

My mum is faithful for a *while*. She does not cheat.. but she does get sick of men after a few years.

A very close person to me - has Scorpio Mars also. He was married for 15 years and stayed faithful. After his marriage he did not have sex at all for over 2 years. Scorpio can be so self-controlled. He buried his desires because he was still hurt.

So - in a nut shell.. it's a "no" - in my experience with Scorpio Mars.
I would say men with mutable Sun-Mars are more inclined to cheat.

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posted June 24, 2010 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Laki - maybe your friend had some negative aspects in synastry -- with this Mars sign.

Scorpio Mars does love secrecy.. But what I admire most about them is their strength of will and their ability to *stick* things through - in good times and bad times.

I could only imagine a Scorpio mars forgetting their deeply ingrained Plutonian morals & values -- if their current relationship was already dead.. or if they were out to get revenge.

This Mars has a strong sex drive.. which is why I admire their complete self-control even more so. My Capricorn mars loves it because it feels "safe" - it feels similar.

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posted June 24, 2010 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just recently eliminated a potential love interest who was an Aquarius Sun w. Mars in Scorpio. So not only was he secretive, but he's sexually weird.

Yes, he was incredibly secretive. He added me on facebook but blocked me from seeing his friend's list. I thought it was weird but then a few weeks later we went to a music festival/event with another 2 friends of ours, getting a hotel room nearby and being in such close proximity, i saw this guy's true colours.

Where do I start?? He's 26 and hangs out with 20 yr old kids because he needs to be the King of the Juveniles in order to be popular..when we got to the music festival he left us for the entire night to hang out with his 20yr old mate and lied till he was blue in the face that he was alone the entire night.

He blocked me off from seeing his fb list of friends because he has underage/VERY young girls on there, as well as his posse of young followers.

He's an ice addict who's been smoking it for 9yrs. I was personally disgusted as he made himself out to the be the most wholesome, healthiest guy ever.

He goes for 18yr old girls

He LOVES rub&tug parlours and I'm guessing the services of prostitutes on top of that.

The funniest was when I was sleeping on the couch, dead and exhausted and he kept trying to get it on with me..realising he wasn't getting anywhere, he jumped up to have a shower for 5mins...randomly I thought, "oh jeez, i hope he's not going to relieve himself" but hours later, after he had left and my friend went to have a shower, he called me in and said, "hey, you know what were guessing hours ago? I think it came true"..I looked down and yes, it wasn't snot. I was even more disgusted.

All morning and afternoon he wouldn't shut up about going to a club that was open for recovery..his 20yr old friends kept calling him to go and when he finally did, our friend goes,
"i've known him for yrs..i bet you any money he's going home to crash in his bed and pass out, he just can't admit it and has to make it sound like he's going somewhere cool to impress us"

Need i go on?? This young man absolutely disgusted me. Even more so, he DISTURBED me with his DISTURBING behaviour.
On another note, I had an ex who had his Mars in Scorpio and he wasn't never secretive from me or kept things. He definitely had a past that he slowly revealed over the course of our time together but he never cheated on me, or lied or anything like that. He was just an abusive prick

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posted June 24, 2010 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Has this Aquarius guy - cheated on anyone?

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posted June 24, 2010 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He's so secretive..who knows?? Even his best friend can only predict as he knows his behaviour so well.

I met him Anzac day (april 25th), then a couple of wks ago at the hotel room when my friend was grilling him about not keeping in contact, he said how he broke up with his 18yr old girlfriend 2 months ago, which would have been around April but when I met him there was absolutely NO indication or mention that he was going through a break up.

I'm guessing, yes. He is a cheater. I mean, he bought my ticket for this music festival and won't stop going on about how he needs to settle down and meet a nice girl (ie. me), get to know her and bring her home to mum.
But when he was alone in the car with my mate, he said, "oh, i bought her ticket..i hope I get my d*ck sucked tonight" and when he was on the phone to one of his mates, who asked who he was going to the music festival with, he was like, "oh, blah blah, his girlfriend and blah blah (me), this chick I wanna grab"

If he can be such a pathological liar, then there's no doubt in my mind this guy is a cheater. I mean, he kept looking for someone better to hang out with or something better to do and wasn't content just chilling with us. Trust me, astrology has NOTHING to do with it, lol.

But like I mentioned before, an ex boyfriend had Mars in Scorpio (Aries/Pisces cusp sun) and he was very, very ANTI CHEATING and would constantly accuse me of doing it. He even made me agree to a verbal contract saying, if either of us cheated on each other that we'd catch AIDS
(like i said, this guy was just an abusive prick, even if he wasn't a cheater)

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posted June 24, 2010 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow

Hey - do you know what I thought of reading your post?

Maybe Scorpio is just a sign of *extremes*.. So either they are VERY faithful and expect the same in return.. or they turn into a man-wh0re !

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he was like, "oh, blah blah, his girlfriend and blah blah (me), this chick I wanna grab"

He's bad news! Yuuuck :

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posted June 24, 2010 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, i think you're very right
It isn't so much about whether they're the type to cheat or not, but rather about their ability to take real extremes, either one or the other of a polar opposite.

Like, the Aquarian, he was an extreme ice addict, toking on a crack pipe for 9yrs. As for my ex, he was hard on drugs too and would always go to extremes with them. Our relationship was a relationship of extreme extremes hahaha

As for this Aquarian guy..it was more that he had a wank in the shower and left the mess for us to discover that made me mentally throw up on him.

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posted June 24, 2010 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol I think I mentally threw up a little myself!

I hope you got rid of this guy.

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posted June 24, 2010 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahaha yep, that's the reaction me and my girlfriend..
Don't worry, I gave him a piece of my mind as to what a rude, selfish, self-centered prick he was.

I think in my parting text message, I wrote something along the lines of,
"I would rather kill myself than be with someone who abandons me, rubs himself up against me while i'm half asleep asking for affection every 5 seconds in a kids voice and calls himself the CEO of TFU (the club he wouldn't SHUT UP about going to. Once your over the age of 22, NOBODY goes there, he's 26 that's why its sad)...whatta a fkn joke for a 26yr old, really.

Don't worry, I know how to put them back in their place

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posted June 24, 2010 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found Mars in Scorpio to be a really prickish placement for a guy on both ends of the spectrum. The faithful ones are so controlling it will make you sick while the other ones are so promiscious it will make you sick.

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posted June 24, 2010 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah, I have always had a really really hard time with male scorpio energy. Seriously. I had some bad past relationships with scorpios...and it kind of um, disturbs me that my juno is in scorpio...not sure what to think of that.

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posted June 25, 2010 02:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
seeleah - I feel neutral about the Sun in Scorpio.. I wouldn't say I have a hard time, but I can understand people detaching from that intensity. It doesn't mash that well with me. I absolutely love every other placement in Scorpio though. They're the best, from my perspective - Moon-Mercury-Venus-Mars.

LOL @ your message Diablo

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posted June 25, 2010 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prickish...LOL BM
Really accurate too.

My assessment is that ALL Mars signs can and will cheat...it depends on who they're attached to

But, I always hear that fixed Mars signs are not prone to cheat, but I think BM is right in the sense that it can really go either way with these cats.
One thing I can't stand about Mars Scorpio placement is its sneakiness...this is a Mars placement that I almost always associate with an agenda. Maybe their agenda is to see how faithful you are since they are faithful, or maybe it's about being faithful themselves, but this is a Mars sign which is calculating above all else, and they won't be all open. Of course with my own Mars in Taurus and my sun in the 5th, I prefer openness. I loathe deviousness, and that's exactly how I see Mars in Scorpio. It's not even about cheating so much as it is about deviousness. I don't like devious men. And I can smell it a mile away. Don't pretend you're just innocently trying to get to know me over false premises. I can see through you, and I will let you know once, but will not say anything after that, and just give you enough rope to hang yourself with (something any Scorpio anything should appreciate).

I've never HAD a long term relationship with one of them though and so I might be completely off. But because I tend not to trust them and hold a Mars sign as important for men, maybe there's a reason why I don't. My experience with them has been less than stellar. So I am not going there. My Venus in Scorpio doesn't find it attractive either and I have had an exact conjunction with this Mars and it did nothing for me.
Their intention might be authentic, but their execution puts me off.

So no, I don't trust them. But again, what sign and chart is this attached to, what person... ? Because if there's a lot of mutable energy attached to it as well, then I will definitely be running the other way, and if you're lucky, you might get a postcard from the hills i'm running thru lol

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posted June 25, 2010 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My problem with them has little to do with faithfulness or unfaithfulness....my issue with the Mars (and some Suns) is that they can so pigheaded in the most extreme ways. I remember one dude who admitted he would get super offended if the girl he likes masturbated since it doesn't involve him. That's ONE example of the controlling factor I was talking about. Another person with this placement I know with this placement is just plain lewd and an ******* ...like Diablo's Aqua. He was the unfaithful one in ways that made me vomit...and he wasn't even my boyfriend (thank God).

Then they have that irritating tendency to project. My ex (who was actually the sun placement, but whatever...same difference) would play alot of games and then make it look like it was all me who was messing with his head, while he was completely innocent. Poor him....

Mars in Taurus is alot different. The stubborness and longevity still exists, but without alot of the psychological BS that comes with the Scorpio placement.


I dunno, I love the Scorpio Moon, I can put up with the Venus placement (as long as they're not up in my grill), I can go either way with the Sun, but this Mars placement gets on my last nerve with its one-sidedness.

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posted June 25, 2010 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LakiSG03     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would a guy with Venus in Leo and Mars in Scorpio be like?

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posted June 25, 2010 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, me too BM.

Wow, at the girl masturbating thing tho... OMG! Control freaky stuff LOL!
I have less problems with Scorpio sun than I do with the moon because I feel like the moon is reaction and a Scorpio moon reaction is just going to hurt a lot more than a sun one, at least it's been my experience so far...

It's my first time now with another fellow Taurus Mars (in the long term, I mean), and so far I am liking the stubbornness and the faithfulness (as far as I know LOL) and really relieved to have zero drama...my god, it's like the first time lol. I must say, on a guy, Taurus Mars is just really nice, but maybe I am just partial to it with my own Mars there. These are guys who like to make you laugh and drop your guard that way..that's how they get a feel for your mood instead of just playing a head trip.

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posted June 25, 2010 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never had a problem with Mars in Scorpio, at least not serious. I had a guy chasing me whose Mars is in Scorpio. He did have some subtly manipulative tactics though, such as buying me expensive gifts even after I told him not to, repeatedly. But on the whole it wasn't that bad. A lot of stubbornness, the one-sidedness like BenedictMoon says... oh that did **** me off. NEVER LISTENS. However, I don't believe he is the unfaithful sort.

The other one I knew was very manipulative in how he went about things. But he had a lot of Scorpio, not just Mars. He was good natured (lots of Jupiter). Usually the "deviousness" was omitting important details of a situation that completely changed the meaning... so he'd always be truthful but at the same time you wouldn't actually know what was going on unless you investigated further. It was irritating but usually he'd do this because he messed up somewhere and was trying to cover his ... buttocks.

He struck me as a very faithful person... but who knows what skeletons people have in their closets.

BUT: No, Scorpio Mars I wouldn't see as unfaithful. Maybe Prick. Not unfaithful.

EDIT: reading about Benedict's Moon placement sympathy.. perhaps I am less disturbed by Scorp Mars because my Mars is in the 8th house. I view the games as games and it's in my "field" so to speak. Though I haven't run into any pedo-control-freak Scorp Mars either!

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posted June 25, 2010 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dy-na-mi-tee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Benedict. I always attract these two - Mars in Taurus and Mars in Scorpio.

I had the pleasure of dealing with a Taurean Mars guy (opposite his Pluto in Scorpio), for a few years - and that was the worst of the worst for me.

Otherwise I like Taurus Mars.. but sometimes I find them "lazy". When they are friends, I don't mind.

But as a sexual partner, I need someone who is more energetic.

What I like about Scorpio Mars is the sense of feeling appreciated and useful - when I'm with them. There's a mutual trust and appreciation for who we are.. and also an understanding that life is sometimes ugly - but that's OK. Our sometimes dark humor can be similar.
But when I attract this Mars it is often conjunct my Pluto in Scorpio. I think the synastry matters in how we perceive people.
I find this synastry aspect great for *research*, with one particular guy - in the area where we work/study.

:edit: For some reason I also feel "safe" with Scorpio Mars. I am not generally the sort of person who needs or desires, a "safety" net. I'm always trying to take care of everything myself. But it's a nice change to have someone else around who you know gives a damn.. and who you can count on.

Obviously there are bad eggs in any sign placement. I've been lucky to meet some good ones. Actually I think my "flowery" view of this Mars comes from the fact that three of the people I know who have it - are Leo Suns (which is trine my own).

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posted June 25, 2010 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Wow, at the girl masturbating thing tho... OMG! Control freaky stuff LOL!
I have less problems with Scorpio sun than I do with the moon because I feel like the moon is reaction and a Scorpio moon reaction is just going to hurt a lot more than a sun one, at least it's been my experience so far...

I'll always naturally empathize with the Moon placement since I have the 8th house Virgo Moon, but I know what you mean. I've never experienced it directly, but I've seen the ugliness in the 'reaction' of a Full Moon Scorpio before (Sun in Taurus). He was a hot mess though, in terms of...alot of things. I blame that opposition. It's a very nice placement when its trine a Pisces or a Cancer Sun though. Gives them the much needed backbone that people usually complain that they lack.

And I ended up in the line of fire of my ex's reactiveness...twice. It was stupid too because even then he would rant about how it affected him, but not WHAT was bothering him. *SMH* I often forget he had a pisces moon, so I wonder how much that played into it.

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posted June 25, 2010 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dy-na-mi-tee,

I have a whole stellium of planets in Cancer so it is strange that I can't tolerate this brand of martian energy. The only fixed planets I have is Jupiter in Taurus and Pluto in Scorpio. But it might be for almost the same reason I can't tolerate mars in gemini (in a man) even though I'm a gemini venus. I know though that every placement has its good and bad, and its all perspective in most cases....mine with the males just isn't good. I forgot to mention that I don't really have problems with Scorpio Mars women. In fact, one of my good friends has this and while she's tiny, she's not to be trifled with.


And like MVM, I want to be clear that I don't think they're any more or less prone to cheating than other Mars', its just personality traits that I clash with.

On Taurus Mars: I can agree that when its time for a Taurean Mars to rest, that means REST. But in alot of other areas, I find their work-rate to be incredible. And this is coming from an Aries Mars...LOL. I guess the combination of knowing how to work and knowing how to relax is appealing. Or maybe its just coz they activate my hedonistic Jupiter...LAWLZ. Alot of guys I've been attracted to have this placement, so maybe there is some bias.

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posted June 25, 2010 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dy-na-mi-tee....love your name cos its a mad as song Miss. Dy-na-mi-tee

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posted June 25, 2010 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see why Scorpio Mars would be more prone to cheating. I mean it's true both Scorpio and Mars are associated with sexuality, and a Scorpio Mars would definitely create higher sex drive and probably an inclination towards sex, but not to the detriment of emotionality. And let's not forget sexuality is not the only characteristic of Scorpios, the other traits, like depth, empathy, perceptiveness would also be associated with a Scorpio Mars. And Mars doesn't represent only sex either, it also indicates how someone interacts, their level of energy in general, their drive etc.

I'd say that someone with Mars in an air sign would be more prone to cheating.

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The 3 men that I know that have Mars in Scorpio are the most loyal men that I know. BUT they are really possessive and can be really jealous...

A pattern I have seen with men cheating (just from my own experience and my girlfriends experiences) a lot of the Men have Mars in an Air Sign either square or conj to Uranus...

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posted June 25, 2010 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Then they have that irritating tendency to project. My ex (who was actually the sun placement, but whatever...same difference) would play alot of games and then make it look like it was all me who was messing with his head, while he was completely innocent.

This sounds like my mother


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