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StelliumH6
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posted December 07, 2011 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces and I have in our natal Draconic charts:
Him - DSC Capricorn 20*
Me - Venus Capricorn 23*
How would this past aspect together help out our present relationship?

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posted December 07, 2011 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Depends where in your Natal chart that aspect is touching..

Thats how it manifests.

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posted December 07, 2011 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Athenegoddess.

The Draconic placements are filtered through the tropical. That is where and how they manifest.
I think if you have something on 20 Cap or Cancer, then no matter what there is, this Venus-DESC from the Draco will be kinda vibrating in the background.
The tropical object there could also be like a door to this soul or past life relationship.

Let`s say Mercury is there (maybe even composite Mercury), then whenever you tap into the mercurial energy, communicating, talking, writing etc, then the Draco aspect would be "re-activated"; something brimming underneath.

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posted December 07, 2011 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So Dr to DR aspects show past life aspects?

and DR to Natal shows that past life aspected being activated?

Is that how DR works??

Stellium..... Are you still seeing your pisces guy???

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posted December 07, 2011 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, if in the natal there are exact conjunctions to the draconic aspects its significant and how the past life energy manifests in this lifetime.

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posted December 07, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is from an old post of mine.


"approaching the Draco`s you do it in a similiar way like the tropical. Look for conjunctions and oppositions of the personal planets and asteroids.

maybe we could do it this way:

1. List all the Draco - Draco aspects, which would reflect the past life experiences.

2. Take those Draco-Draco aspects and see, if they trigger any tropical planets or asteroids by conjunction or opposition. Those are the "bridges" from past to present, and you can see how the present is influenced by the past.

3. See, what tropical -t ropical aspects are existent.

So you can see what is underneath the obvious tropical synastry.

Of course you will probably not find all THAT many aspects, where there is a connection on all three levels, but some may be there.

an example.

1. Draco - Draco
His Draco Venus on 18° Sagittarius is exactly opposite my Draco Lilith on 18° Gemini.

2. My Draco Lilith is conjunct my tropical Karma on 16° Gemini, which means that his Draco Venus is also opposite my tropical Karma.

3. He doesn`t have any planets or asteroids in the tropical on these degrees in Gemini or Sagittarius.
So there is no tropical - tropical aspect, that`s being triggered.

This is probably an example for some kind of a one sided aspect.

The D-Venus opposite D-Lilith would indicate some very strong attraction but also some issues with power, femininity, equality and truthfulness in our past.
Maybe a fatal attraction in a past life.

However this ONLY connects to my Karma, so I seem to be very aware of the existence of this aspect, while he is not (none of his tropical planets are triggered). And yet, his love (Draco Venus) is part of my Karma (my tropical karma); of course my encounter with Lilith is also part of my Karma, and I probably have to adress my feelings towards feminity, something that might have been triggered through my memory of a past life love with him.
But this time around I am alone in this. It doesn`t touch his conscious life; of course it`s till imprinted in his subconsciousness, though.


Or another example:

1. His Draco Psyche conjunct my Draco Sun.

2. His Draco Psyche is conjunct his own tropical Sun. My Draco Sun is conjunct my own tropical Chiron.
Of course this means that His Draco Psyche is (widely) conjunct my tropical Chiron, and his tropical Sun is conjunct my Draco Sun.

3. The tropical aspect that exists is:
His Sun conjunct my Chiron

So underneath our apparent Sun-Chiron-conjunction there`s also still a Psyche-Sun-conjunctionw orking (which is also an Osiris-Sun-conjunction, for his Psyche is conjunct his Osiris).


Possible interpretation:

1. His Draco Psyche and Draco Osiris conjunct my Draco Sun:
In a past life he was a true soulmate to me (Osiris as the sign of the best soulmate in your incarnation), who was very sensitive to me and very much in tune with me.
Of course some of this "telepathy" still lingers on in the subconsciousness.

2. However, now we can have a look what of this past experience is being carried into the present.

The Draco Osiris and Draco Psyche are conjunct his tropical Sun - so I think, this experience has formed his personality very much.

In my case it`s Draco Sun conjunct my Chiron. For some reason the personality I had in the past life has caused some deep wound in me and filled me with insecurity. Maybe the memory of that life is the wound?

His Draco Psyche conjunct my tropical Chiron is a very fragile vulnerable placement, as I sense it.
Somehow his past sensitivity towards me led to my present wound.

On the other hand my Draco Sun is conjunct his tropical Sun. SEems like we share some common traits, or let`s say something of my past personality is very similiar to his present personality, which could easily lead to a strong, too strong?, identification with each other (we have quite a lot of these same planets-connection).

3. This mixing of past and present leads to the Sun-Chiron-conjunction.
He, his creative expression and personality has become the walking image (Sun) of my wound, at least as I see it.
It`s a difficult aspect, especially since all of this is squared by my SAturn. Seems I feel a lot of karmic pain,w hich of course only leads to my spiritual growth and is for the best of my personal development.

But underneath all of this "growth-pain" there is a very delicate, sensitive, telephatic connection.
Maybe it was too good and somehow this experience of being understood so completely as only a Psyche can do led to the development of too high expectations in this life,w hich cannot be fulfilled.
And the realization and acceptance of that "un-fulfillment" maybe is the true root of my wound and of course also of my healing.

I dunno, that was my idea of an interpretation. "

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posted December 07, 2011 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mermaid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ceridwen for the detailed explanation.

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posted December 07, 2011 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is very interesting to look at

His DR neptune conjuncts my Venus
His DR jupiter opps my Sun,moon,merc
His DR Sun conjunct my Dsc
His DR merc conjunct my vertex/ceres
His DR Asc conjunct my NN
HIS DR venus/dsc/eros conjunct my SN

My dr psyche conjunct his moon
my DR MC conjunct his mars
My DR jupiter conjunct his sun
My DR sun,moon merc conjunct his pluto
My DR dsc conjuncts his uranus

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posted December 08, 2011 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mermaid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do we apply 0 to 2 degs orb for draco to draco and draco to tropical or can we go upto 3/4 degs for the conjunctions and oppositions to be felt ?

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posted December 08, 2011 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like to mostly stick to 2 degrees, but think that orbs of 3 or 4 degrees might be still felt, esp. when part of a stellium, though maybe more weakly.

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posted December 08, 2011 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mermaid     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen,I have NN 0deg conj in Tropical synastry with someone so our draco to draco synastry remains the same.Does it mean our pastlife experiences would continue in this lifetime also? But I'm finding interesting stuff between his draco to my tropical natal and vice-versa.I'm doing it manually as there is no way to do it on Astro.com

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posted December 08, 2011 05:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably the aspects from Draco to tropical would be more interesting, as they indicate how each one is affected by the past connection in the present incarnation.

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posted December 08, 2011 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all this informational knowledge! I will look further now between our Tropical Natals and Draconic Natals.

Hi Lioness. Yes, we are in our relationship. Pisces opens up more and we get closer with each interaction. You have to be very patient with Pisces. Trust in faith are essential in this relationship. If you can hang on (and I do not mean that in a bad way), it gets better and better as Pisces lets you in and makes your world a wonderful place!

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posted December 08, 2011 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ceridwen~ Why did you say .. "if you have something on 20 Cancer the Venus-DESC from the Draco will be kinda vibrating in the background."? Cancer?
Thanks.

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posted December 08, 2011 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don`t know why I typed that. Would make more sense if it was in Capricorn, though I think we can treat this as an axis.

If you have a tropical planet on 20 Cap, it would be the "door" to your Draco-aspect.

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posted December 09, 2011 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StelliumH6:
Thank you for all this informational knowledge! I will look further now between our Tropical Natals and Draconic Natals.

Hi Lioness. Yes, we are in our relationship. Pisces opens up more and we get closer with each interaction. You have to be very patient with Pisces. Trust in faith are essential in this relationship. If you can hang on (and I do not mean that in a bad way), it gets better and better as Pisces lets you in and makes your world a wonderful place!


Ahhhh.. Im glad to hear it

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posted December 09, 2011 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I don`t know why I typed that. Would make more sense if it was in Capricorn, though I think we can treat this as an axis.

If you have a tropical planet on 20 Cap, it would be the "door" to your Draco-aspect.



What about DR Composite to Natal Composite would it work the same way?

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posted December 09, 2011 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:

What about DR Composite to Natal Composite would it work the same way?

I think so, just that it relates to a relationship.

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posted December 09, 2011 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StelliumH6     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I reviewed our tropical natal charts and there are not any planets 20 Cap. I have Moon 4 Cap and Mercury 10 Cap. His ASC is 2 Cancer .. not anything significant. Therefore, the Venus-DESC aspect in Dracos do not spark a flame in today's relationship.

I noticed the following, but this would not make an impact, correct?
His H2 is 23 Cancer and his H8 is 23 Capricorn.
Thanks.

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