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Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 10:20 AM
  
Can relationships succeed despite a challenging composite? Or will the composite have the last say?Does anyone have any experiences of a good composite afflicted by one or two bad aspects - those that screamed that the relationship would be short lived - and the relationship was long lasting? IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted January 08, 2013 10:29 AM
I had a great composite with my ex....kindly note the word EX..  The break up was sudden and there was no venus-uranus aspects between us!If you ask me, there is no good or bad composite when you are 'fated' to be together...now this sounds like you are 'doomed' to be with each other haha for better or for worst..when something doesn't work out despite good synastry and great composite I think there is a larger force at work here...otherwise there wouldn't be bad marriages or bad relationships.. IP: Logged |
Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 10:33 AM
OK, that's the reverse, so by extrapolation, a not so great composite might have a good result.I am particularly interested in composites which do not indicate long lasting relationships. For example, a composite that does not have any planets in the 7th, 8th houses and only the moon in the 5th. IP: Logged |
Jessica2407
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posted January 08, 2013 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
OK, that's the reverse, so by extrapolation, a not so great composite might have a good result.
I seriously don't know but you won't either if you don't give it a try now will ya? IP: Logged |
Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Jessica2407:
I had a great composite with my ex....kindly note the word EX.. The break up was sudden and there was no venus-uranus aspects between us!
Please explain about the venus-uranus aspect. What would that mean?
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Jessica2407
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posted January 08, 2013 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Please explain about the venus-uranus aspect. What would that mean?
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/venus_uranus_aspects.html ''Venus in hard aspect (square, opposition, semi-square, or sesquiquadrate) to other person's Uranus Electric attraction characterizes this pairing. However, both will have to deal with an inability to truly count on one another over time. The Uranus person may resent any hint that the Venus person wants more of a commitment from, or structure in, the relationship. Affection may be inconstant, or the two may often be separated from one another at key moments. In order for this relationship to work, both parties need to expect the unexpected. This relationship can be an emotional rollercoaster ride, particularly for the Venus person. When the Venus person is feeling especially romantic, the Uranus person may be just out of reach somehow, whether it is a physical reality or takes the form of mental or emotional distancing. This relationship has an erratic, unstable, but exciting quality. ''
venus-uranus is said to be an EXCITING aspect but not a good indication for anything long term. These descriptions made me think of all my previous relationships that ended suddenly,I thought there must have been some venus-uranus hard aspects but found none when I checked, actually my compatibility reports were great. I think it was all because of my venus-saturn conjunction. I had some hard lessons to learn, the emphasis was not on how compatible I was with him.
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Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 10:52 AM
Thanks, I was just about to go cafeastrology to look that up!!The thing is there are many aspects or lack of placements, which indicate possible or certain break ups. It would be helpful to list a few of the more certain ones. I'll start with some possibilities (as nothing is completely certain)
No planets in 7th or 8th houses
Moon square Saturn EDIT: Of course many factors come into play, not least astrological placements. How the composite relates to the individual natal charts, i.e, how one copes with the challenges of the composite, is another factor to consider. However, I am often impressed when astrologers see a particular aspect and are quite confidant that the relationship will be short lived. What are these then? IP: Logged |
Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 01:54 PM
This thread is not quite the reverse of the 'the most loving composite ', because you could have great and loving aspects but still breakup. So, which placements, aspects or missing things are usually red flags?
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 08, 2013 02:54 PM
And I do have a Venus Square Uranus in composite. And it's not supposed to be a good indicator of a long term relationship, but I've been married almost 20 years. So there goes that aspect. I'm not sure you can narrow down the complexities of any relationship to a couple of aspects. I'm pretty sure it's more complicated than that. IP: Logged |
Sorcha
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posted January 08, 2013 03:19 PM
Venus square Uranus in a composite can indicate that you have an unconventional relationship of some kind, not necessarily that it can't last. Also, it's not necessary to have planets in the 7th and 8th houses. You can look to what the rulers of those houses are doing, like where are they located house-wise and what aspects they make. IP: Logged |
brightwhites
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posted January 08, 2013 03:34 PM
I had a horrible composite with my ex, but it lasted ~2 years before it got to me.IP: Logged |
Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Venus square Uranus in a composite can indicate that you have an unconventional relationship of some kind, not necessarily that it can't last. Also, it's not necessary to have planets in the 7th and 8th houses. You can look to what the rulers of those houses are doing, like where are they located house-wise and what aspects they make.
Great to hear that. What a relief! Since I have that in my composite.OK, back to the original plan - do you have more stories of composites doing the unexpected thing. Listing of bad aspects was going off-track and bound to fail.
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cappy1277
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posted January 08, 2013 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Venus square Uranus in a composite can indicate that you have an unconventional relationship of some kind, not necessarily that it can't last. Also, it's not necessary to have planets in the 7th and 8th houses. You can look to what the rulers of those houses are doing, like where are they located house-wise and what aspects they make.
Exactly....to understand your synastry and composite, you have to understand the natals. Those aspects may be repeated in the natal and in that case, it's energy that your already used to. Outer planet aspects shouldn't always be a case of duress. If you have a natal sun square Pluto and it shows in the composite or synastry, you already know how the energy is going to play out & you will be more comfortable with it. It's not going to stress you out so much especially if that natal aspect has matured you enough to be to handle it on your own. If you have Aquarius planets or planets in the 11th house, you're already familiar with Uranus energy. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted January 08, 2013 04:11 PM
lol... all of this talk about "good/great" composites vs. "bad/challenging" composites. If you're speaking of "bad/challenging" being squares, opposites, etc., those can actually help bind a relationship together for the long run. Depends on the planets/luminaries, of course, but the point is that hard aspects in composites aren't "bad" per se. Just as soft aspects aren't always "good". IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 08, 2013 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Can relationships succeed despite a challenging composite? Or will the composite have the last say?Does anyone have any experiences of a good composite afflicted by one or two bad aspects - those that screamed that the relationship would be short lived - and the relationship was long lasting?
My opinion is no. I will get flak for that, probably, but the more I do charts, the more I respect that they WILL play out. Once can choose to go forward, but the charts will play out as written imho ------------------
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Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 04:37 PM
However, what will play out? The comments above indicate that people respond in different ways. What may be a deal breaker for one couple will not be for another. So, there must be couples who despite challenging aspects, cope well enough, rise above these and have long lasting relationships. Sorcha's case in point.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted January 08, 2013 04:48 PM
i'm no expert on composites since i havent had a really long term relationship..yet. my understanding is the composite doesnt really come into play until you are in an established relationship, it especially becomes important if you get married to that person and/or live in the same home. my friend who taught me astrology seems to have this point of view. he told me about how his mother had great synastry with a past boyfriend and things were great between them until they started to stay with each other alot,they had synastry full of good aspects but their composite was terrible.IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted January 08, 2013 04:53 PM
I put a lot of stock into astrology (sun signs, synastry and finally composite), but I also put a lot of weight into statistics and common sense as well. For instance, if your parents and friends all hate the person, chances are you are going to break up. If one partner is a smoker and the other isn't, the chances of divorce are 76-95% higher than if both partners don't smoke (53% higher if both partners are smokers). So I take those things into account as well.IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted January 08, 2013 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
Can relationships succeed despite a challenging composite? Or will the composite have the last say?Does anyone have any experiences of a good composite afflicted by one or two bad aspects - those that screamed that the relationship would be short lived - and the relationship was long lasting?
To address your original question, it's going to depend on what signs are on the cusps of the relationship houses, which planets/luminaries are in them and what houses those planets ruled. Relationships can get complex, so be careful when looking at a composite chart with a lot of squares and oppositions and wondering, "Can we overcome this?" IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 08, 2013 06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Astro keen:
However, what will play out? The comments above indicate that people respond in different ways. What may be a deal breaker for one couple will not be for another. So, there must be couples who despite challenging aspects, cope well enough, rise above these and have long lasting relationships. Sorcha's case in point.
I mean that if you see an aspect, that will come to be. For example, if there is Chiron conj the NN, the relationship will be one of pain, in my experience.
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Astro keen
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posted January 08, 2013 06:03 PM
So, that aspect will express itself. Whether that makes or breaks a relationship is another matter, which, as we've established, is dependent on many factors. Yes?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted January 08, 2013 06:08 PM
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So, that aspect will express itself. Whether that makes or breaks a relationship is another matter, which, as we've established, is dependent on many factors. Yes?
Yes, the relationship could have a pain theme and you could stay together. One cannot SAY what the parties will do, just what will transpire between them and what they will feel ime ------------------
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