posted December 08, 2011 09:59 PM            

My question is - Do you ever experience a painful feeling of embarrassment?

I realized I never do.

I might get embarrassed in a funny way like “Oh I slipped on a banana peel! Ha. Ha.”
I find it really easy to laugh at myself.

But nothing seriously embarrasses me because I feel like I don’t really have an ego.. or maybe my ego is very fluid (Neptunian).. You can’t pin it down to anything. I guess one needs to have a strong feeling of pride.. in order to feel embarrassed by something.
I don’t really care if people see my flaws or shortcomings or if I stuff up.. because I know that everyone stuffs up sometimes, so I’m open about it. I have no desire to be seen as perfect. I just want to be seen as very real and human – and hopefully this puts others at ease so they can be real around me also.

This isn’t a lack of self-esteem though. I’m basically OK with – and aware of - my set of qualities and vices. I’m working on the vices but I wouldn’t purposely hide them.

Is it a Neptunian thing? ^ Can you relate?

posted December 08, 2011 10:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I think the hard aspects (conjunction, square, opposition) might be more relevant here. I have the Mars/Nept conjunction.

My question is - Do you ever experience a painful feeling of embarrassment?

I realized I never do.

I might get embarrassed in a funny way like “Oh I slipped on a banana peel! Ha. Ha.”
I find it really easy to laugh at myself.

But nothing seriously embarrasses me because I feel like I don’t really have an ego.. or maybe my ego is very fluid (Neptunian).. You can’t pin it down to anything. I guess one needs to have a strong feeling of pride.. in order to feel embarrassed by something.
I don’t really care if people see my flaws or shortcomings or if I stuff up.. because I know that everyone stuffs up sometimes, so I’m open about it. I have no desire to be seen as perfect. I just want to be seen as very real and human – and hopefully this puts others at ease so they can be real around me also.

This isn’t a lack of self-esteem though. I’m basically OK with – and aware of - my set of qualities and vices. I’m working on the vices but I wouldn’t purposely hide them.

Is it a Neptunian thing? ^ Can you relate?

PS. Sometimes I find it hard to get along with those who are the exact opposite… and who place a lot of importance on their image and their ego (by "image" - I don't mean 'physical appearance').
This is not because I’m critical of them… but because they don’t let me in.
It’s all about smoke mirrors.. It’s all about "what other's think” of them. When someone has a really bad case of this… you can be completely open with them & put your cards on the table… and they will STILL be scared to open up, they still won’t trust you.. (few people have it this bad.. My ex did… I’m chucking it down to his Mars/Pluto opposition squaring a singleton Jupiter).

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I know how you feel.

posted December 08, 2011 10:19 PM            

I have Mars opposite Neptune as well as Sun, Mercury and Jupiter trine Neptune (Jupiter is exact).

I do take pride in myself (Sun, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter in Leo) but when it comes to little insignificant things, things that make us human, I don't get all worked up about it. "People are just people!"

Also - if someone slips and falls in front of me I don't laugh, I am the "Oh my god! Are you okay?" type. I know how to act about it, I've been there. I don't understand the laughers...

posted December 08, 2011 10:25 PM            

i found this little interpretation on sun sqaure neptune

These people are very sensitive, especially with regards to any real or imagined blows to their ego. If the natal chart shows a strong sense of reality and a robust mind (Mercury and Saturn well-placed, for example), the negative interpretations of this aspect are less extreme. Still, the natives are likely to recognize at some point in their lives that they have a tendency to engage in escapist and self-destructive fantasies and/or habits. It is useful to be able to connect these behaviors with their probable source, which is likely to be a weakly-defined ego and identity in childhood

pretty much hits it on the nail. its really easy for me to make up delusions or made up situations and be really hurt by them, especially if i make up a situation that someone doesnt like me or something. im an extremely shy person, and im really sensitive towards people and their behavior, so i get embarrised if the times right, but i wouldnt say that i have a really blown up ego or a lot of pride either. i really dont like being in the spotlight or having a lot of attention on me soo yeaah

posted December 09, 2011 07:55 AM            

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Originally posted by polysigh:
I know someone with sun/mercury/mars all opposite neptune. He comes across as having a huge ego but deep down he is extremely insecure. He displays a lot of pride and acts like he doesn't care which I always attributed to his pluto retrograde. He definitely deludes himself and likes to talk in self help platitudes but really i think it is just a farce to cover up the nagging insecurity and unease with himself. He wants others to think that all is always ok but I dont think this is the case. he seems to go to great lengths to avoid embarassment.

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posted March 19, 2012 06:42 PM            

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I have Sun conj Mars opposite Neptune and I believe I've got quite the ego

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I know someone with sun/mercury/mars all opposite neptune. He comes across as having a huge ego

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posted March 19, 2012 07:03 PM            

:edit: OH ooooopsy.. You said X husband ^^ Are you stil on good terms?

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To be honest I'm a bit worried about not experiencing embarrassment.. This just came up again on the 'saying sorry' topic.

posted March 20, 2012 05:50 AM            

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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
hmm, i have my sun/merc/mars square neptune and my rising and moon are trine neptune. asc is by 0 degrees. and sextile venus

i found this little interpretation on sun sqaure neptune

These people are very sensitive, especially with regards to any real or imagined blows to their ego. If the natal chart shows a strong sense of reality and a robust mind (Mercury and Saturn well-placed, for example), the negative interpretations of this aspect are less extreme. Still, the natives are likely to recognize at some point in their lives that they have a tendency to engage in escapist and self-destructive fantasies and/or habits. It is useful to be able to connect these behaviors with their probable source, which is likely to be a weakly-defined ego and identity in childhood

pretty much hits it on the nail. its really easy for me to make up delusions or made up situations and be really hurt by them, especially if i make up a situation that someone doesnt like me or something. im an extremely shy person, and im really sensitive towards people and their behavior, so i get embarrised if the times right, but i wouldnt say that i have a really blown up ego or a lot of pride either. i really dont like being in the spotlight or having a lot of attention on me soo yeaah

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I think you are correct, neptune in hard aspect to sun does erode the sun's ego, pride etc but on the negative side can also cause identity crisis to...

sun square Neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=322226#post322226 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39262&highlight=square+neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37149&highlight=square+neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10371&highlight=square+neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34472&highlight=square+neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32673&highlight=square+neptune

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posted March 20, 2012 05:52 AM            

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Originally posted by downtomars:
I have a very high threshold for embarrassment. I always chalked it up to Uranus squares always causing minor spills and mishaps, which I just had to get over, along with a willingness to talk about anything and everything. I guess Uranus would cause the incidents and, according to the theory you are presenting, Neptune would make me not care about it.

I have Mars opposite Neptune as well as Sun, Mercury and Jupiter trine Neptune (Jupiter is exact).

I do take pride in myself (Sun, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter in Leo) but when it comes to little insignificant things, things that make us human, I don't get all worked up about it. "People are just people!"

Also - if someone slips and falls in front of me I don't laugh, I am the "Oh my god! Are you okay?" type. I know how to act about it, I've been there. I don't understand the laughers...

ETA: Hmm, maybe my ego is actually too big for embarassment. Who cares what "the little people" think? I'll have to think about this...

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that's right, don't sweat the small stuff. Sounds like your neptune is well aspected, except for the opposition..

posted March 20, 2012 05:55 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
You may be onto something here.
I have MarsSqNeptune,MoonConjNeptune,Merc and Neptune in accidental reception,AND if u allow 7 degree,I'd have it opposing Venus,trining Sun.
In my case,I eventually realise that things will just pass away. In Neptune fashion,everything transcends.

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You sound 'very' neptunian.

Mars square Neptune
Mars Neptune Square Mars Neptune Opposition
Painful things either ignored ie self deception, or hypochondriac type, imaginary things (Neptune) Deceive or be deceived http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Mars_square_Neptune http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13104&page=2 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11521 http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_PARALLEL%2C_CONJUNCTION%2C_SQUARE_OR_OPPOSITION_TO_MARS

mars conj Neptune
“This conjunction can pose several difficulties: in choice of actions, where you may struggle to establish what your real aims are; in making that final decision to attempt to achieve them, and in ensuring that sufficient and persistent effort is then made to guarantee success. An unintegrated Neptune can dissolve that focused will, making decisive clarity difficult to maintain. Additionally, you tend to avoid accepting the consequences of your choices, and there can be a refusal to acknowledge responsibility when such actions lead to failure or negative results.” http://astrology.astrozoom.com/index.php?title=NEPTUNE_PARALLEL%2C_CONJUNCTION%2C_SQUARE_OR_OPPOSITION_TO_MARS http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11521

mutual reception http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_reception

posted March 20, 2012 05:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Geminisquared:
I know how you feel.

I have a mars square neptune. When I was younger I embarrassed myself quite often. Now that I'm older I make sure I behave properly public. Unfortunately that leads me to be embarrassed by my friends and family. The ironic thing is I'm probably one of the weirdest people ever. I'm actually pretty goofy and laid back. My problem is I'm to concerned with my "public image". I'm rather bland around strangers. My parents constantly tell me to stop being aloof in public.

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There's nothing wrong with 'correct behaviour' in public. This is just as much about parental influences as it is astrology.

posted March 20, 2012 06:01 AM            

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In my case,I eventually realise that things will just pass away.

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This is very good common sense.

posted March 20, 2012 06:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I think the hard aspects (conjunction, square, opposition) might be more relevant here. I have the Mars/Nept conjunction.

My question is - Do you ever experience a painful feeling of embarrassment?

I realized I never do.

I might get embarrassed in a funny way like “Oh I slipped on a banana peel! Ha. Ha.”
I find it really easy to laugh at myself.

But nothing seriously embarrasses me because I feel like I don’t really have an ego.. or maybe my ego is very fluid (Neptunian).. You can’t pin it down to anything. I guess one needs to have a strong feeling of pride.. in order to feel embarrassed by something.
I don’t really care if people see my flaws or shortcomings or if I stuff up.. because I know that everyone stuffs up sometimes, so I’m open about it. I have no desire to be seen as perfect. I just want to be seen as very real and human – and hopefully this puts others at ease so they can be real around me also.

This isn’t a lack of self-esteem though. I’m basically OK with – and aware of - my set of qualities and vices. I’m working on the vices but I wouldn’t purposely hide them.

Is it a Neptunian thing? ^ Can you relate?

PS. Sometimes I find it hard to get along with those who are the exact opposite… and who place a lot of importance on their image and their ego (by "image" - I don't mean 'physical appearance').
This is not because I’m critical of them… but because they don’t let me in.
It’s all about smoke mirrors.. It’s all about "what other's think” of them. When someone has a really bad case of this… you can be completely open with them & put your cards on the table… and they will STILL be scared to open up, they still won’t trust you.. (few people have it this bad.. My ex did… I’m chucking it down to his Mars/Pluto opposition squaring a singleton Jupiter).

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I think missing ego and dissolving things belongs to neptune, but 'embarrasment' about things I wouldn't automatically think aah neptune again.

Ego, pride and self esteem belongs to sun, not really mars in my opinion.

I would think mars/neptune hard aspects would 'sap the energy levels' and mars is about actions, by sign, house and aspects. So how you act or take action maybe not well thought out.do you sometimes 'take action' too quickly? or not take enough actions that may be others expect you to?

aries typs and strong mars tend to 'put thei cards on the table attitude' whereas neptune couldn't care less about it. Planets in first house would take on the Aries 'speak your mind and tell it how it is' and be honest and upfront. But on the flip side, this can really offend others that are 'sensitive' souls.

people 'scared to open up' the closed book variety is more scorpio's domain. like I mentioned to others on this thread, an occupied 10th house or big does of saturn /cappi the planet of keep it real would care what others think...

posted March 20, 2012 06:12 AM            

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Originally posted by BelligerentPygmy:
It depends. It could manifest any number of ways. In the Astrolger's Handbook it specifically mentions people with Sun-Neptune squares, possibly being delusional and thinking they are messengers or 'vessels of a divine being' or something. I'll bet aspects between Mercury and Neptune can manifest the same way, only it comes from a different place, if that makes any sense.

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I agree with sun/neptune. You know I have a saying about mercury/neptune aspects, "there's many a slip between cup and lip." the subtlties with neptune, may well read too much between the lines, going out and coming in. It can give a massive vivid imagination, creative writing ability. Ami Ann has mercury trine neptune and it's visible in her writing style on here. It wouldn't surprise me if she ends up writing a book at some point either..

On the neg side of merc/nep they can be the deceivers, liars, swindlers. Tell people exactly what they want to hear, to their own ends. Although they would probably make good sale people to.

posted March 20, 2012 06:13 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i only have an inconjunct between moon and neptune as a hard aspect but i do get embarrassed. my moon is in leo tho.

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I thought you couldn't identify or associate with this quincunx?

posted March 20, 2012 06:19 AM            

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Originally posted by polysigh:
I know someone with sun/mercury/mars all opposite neptune. He comes across as having a huge ego but deep down he is extremely insecure. He displays a lot of pride and acts like he doesn't care which I always attributed to his pluto retrograde. He definitely deludes himself and likes to talk in self help platitudes but really i think it is just a farce to cover up the nagging insecurity and unease with himself. He wants others to think that all is always ok but I dont think this is the case. he seems to go to great lengths to avoid embarassment.

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The sentence 'displays a lot of pride' does he per chance have Leo Asc. this shows how he 'presents himself to others' his outwards expressions. If not Asc, then leo moon, planets in 5th house would have a 'leo flavour'

To 'avoid embarrasment' I feel is saturn showing through. This is the problem of discussing generics of just one natal aspect without taking into account the whole chart as we are all whole people and just the sum of one aspect...

posted March 20, 2012 06:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Fondue Knight:
That sounds like me, except I attribute my "I don't care what anyone else thinks" to my Uranus conj ASC.

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