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KAHRAMANBENDEN
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posted January 16, 2022 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAHRAMANBENDEN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi just wanted to discuss how does it effect people? Apparently it's not good for career coz the native remains unaware of what they want out to do- has to do with spirituality, which doesn't pay anything... What do you all think? Any recommendations on career choices?

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Nadja
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posted January 16, 2022 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Midheaven in Cancer and Moon in Virgo 12th.

I went to university not knowing what I wanted to become, just knowing that I was interested in many different subjects. And I did study a lot of different things at uni, not finding any field that would hold my interest for long. I more or less stumbled into my career. I didn't want to become an academic, I wanted a steady job, and I didn't want to spend 3+ years on a single area of study. So after I had filled my head with all sorts of random knowledge I applied to a two year master's program and became a librarian. And tbh it feels like a calling for me. The Cancer/Moon/12th intuition serves me well at work, as does the Virgo sense of organization. The 12th house is also said to govern institutions and places of seclusion, which a library kind of is.

I don't remember what your MC is and what planet(s) you have in the 12th, so can't really recommend anything specific for you.

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KAHRAMANBENDEN
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posted January 18, 2022 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KAHRAMANBENDEN     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nadja:
I have Midheaven in Cancer and Moon in Virgo 12th.

I went to university not knowing what I wanted to become, just knowing that I was interested in many different subjects. And I did study a lot of different things at uni, not finding any field that would hold my interest for long. I more or less stumbled into my career. I didn't want to become an academic, I wanted a steady job, and I didn't want to spend 3+ years on a single area of study. So after I had filled my head with all sorts of random knowledge I applied to a two year master's program and became a librarian. And tbh it feels like a calling for me. The Cancer/Moon/12th intuition serves me well at work, as does the Virgo sense of organization. The 12th house is also said to govern institutions and places of seclusion, which a library kind of is.

I don't remember what your MC is and what planet(s) you have in the 12th, so can't really recommend anything specific for you.


Hi there!
I feel like I wrote this....i feel a lot like you.
I have virgo midheaven & scorpio 12th house.
Mars,mercury & pluto in 12th house scorpio.

I have thought of librarian as an option... but i don't have any Masters/undergraduates in Library sciences. I just wanted to ask you a couple of things-
1) what does the course teach you? Was it useful to whatever actual work you did in the library..??
2) What work do you do as a librarian? What are the actual skills required?
3) is there any other position inside library that don't require specific degree? Like assistant, perhaps? what are those?
4) Is this an employable degree? Doesn't seem like a wise financial choice. I have read tons of stories who can't find work. Do you make enough to call yourself financial independent? OR this will have someone working with you in the fam to run the house?
5)Most importantly-
Other career options that use similar skills- I mean people who find and gather information for other people to use. I don;t want to be a researcher in a specific field. AND most importantly- seclusion/isolation.

My chart is in personal readings, If you can help??
THANKS AGAIN.

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Nadja
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posted January 18, 2022 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KAHRAMANBENDEN:
Hi there!
I feel like I wrote this....i feel a lot like you.
I have virgo midheaven & scorpio 12th house.
Mars,mercury & pluto in 12th house scorpio.

I have thought of librarian as an option... but i don't have any Masters/undergraduates in Library sciences. I just wanted to ask you a couple of things-
1) what does the course teach you? Was it useful to whatever actual work you did in the library..??
2) What work do you do as a librarian? What are the actual skills required?
3) is there any other position inside library that don't require specific degree? Like assistant, perhaps? what are those?
4) Is this an employable degree? Doesn't seem like a wise financial choice. I have read tons of stories who can't find work. Do you make enough to call yourself financial independent? OR this will have someone working with you in the fam to run the house?
5)Most importantly-
Other career options that use similar skills- I mean people who find and gather information for other people to use. I don;t want to be a researcher in a specific field. AND most importantly- seclusion/isolation.

My chart is in personal readings, If you can help??
THANKS AGAIN.


Well, first a caveat. I'm in Finland and studied in Sweden. Unless you are also in these parts of the world both the education and the working environment will probably be different.

The course I took was very theoretical, and it hasn't been very useful to me. Beyond the certification that is. Probably more useful for people who went on to work at academic libraries or in leading positions. I don't have any such ambitions and I always wanted to work at a public library. I don't really think there is a course out there that can properly prerare you for the realities of library work though... You learn it on the job, and you always keep learning. I know of a few people who have done work-study to become certified as library assistants, and that is a really good idea tbh. Almost everyone who works at my library has some sort of library-related education, a handfull are librarians and the rest are library assistants.

What you actually do depends a lot on the nature of the library where you work. Generally librarians do more of the administrative work, like acquisitions, classification etc., and library assistants more customer service. And the larger the library the more specialized the positions may be. My library is fairly small, and the structure isn't very hierarchical so everyone does a bit of everything, whether they are librarians or library assistants. In most other libraries there is a clearer division of tasks. Right now I'm working in a library assistant type position, at a small branch library. I've worked many different positions at my library, but working at a branch is what I prefer. I always work alone, which suits me, and the intimate size means that I get to know my customers much better. I also enjoy the versatility of it. I'm the only one there so that means it's up to me to take care of every little thing, and solve every problem that comes up. As for the skills required... well good people skills are foremost. Also some computer skills, problem solving and practical skills in general. And as a library worker the public expects you to know everything. Having a good general knowledge of everything is kind of necessary, from ancient history to who to call for a covid vaccination, via the latest diet fad and whatever book that celebrity recommended on telly yesterday morning... Literary knowledge is of course also important, though it is quite impossible to know every book that comes out. My bachelor's degree is in literature and that has served me well.

I don't know what a librarian makes where you are but over here library work will not make you rich. It's a perfectly livable wage though. Finding a job can be hard. I got a job at my local library by doing my internship and then a series of temp jobs there. I don't know if there is a tradition of mobile libraries where you are, but if so then having a bus license and an interest in library work is a sure way to get a library job. It's almost impossible to find people with both a bus license and library eduction... and the bus license is kind of mandatory.

As for other jobs that might suit... none come to mind right now, but I'll have a think about it. I'll have a look at your chart later, see if anything comes to me.

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Aries23Degrees
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posted January 18, 2022 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted January 18, 2022 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your career may be in an out of the way kind of place like a hospice or hospital or mental hospital. If not, you may bring the mystical or spiritual to your work

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posted January 18, 2022 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for InTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Your career may be in an out of the way kind of place like a hospice or hospital or mental hospital. If not, you may bring the mystical or spiritual to your work


I think the second sentence applies to me more. I'm a musician, and music should be healing, or at least I want mine to be. I want my concerts to be wildly entertaining but also a source of healing for people, with my emotional, laid-bare performances and songs.

Which leads me to ask, it's interesting to see this aspect suggests working in a hospital/being in a therapist field/working ina foreign land. All traits have been mentioned when reading my chart's predicition of my future spouse. Does this placement attract people like that?

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