posted July 23, 2012 08:52 AM            

When I was in the biggest Forum (2007-2009), one male member sent to me his Natal Chart (per PM) and told me that he is homeless. I should find out, why! His PM came from Canada. He wrote also that he will fly to Singapore, next day.

He was born in Germany and left his country. As many other people contacting me, he was ASC Scorpio. I was looking his Natal Chart and of course cusp of his 4th house was in Aquarius. I am not sure in what house was his Uranus, but I remember very well that Uranus had only hard aspects. Nothing was in the 4th.

After a while his PM came from Singapore and he wrote that maybe he will go to Columbia, South America to find his luck.

I was curious, how come somebody like him can fly from one Continent to another. After that I have seen that he has two planets in 2nd house, well aspected. 2nd house was in good relationship with 11th house (with 2 planets, too). I didn't ask too much, but think that his money came from some rich friends, some Organization or any kind of Support. Maybe some Government money (11th is the 2nd from 10th).
All I wrote: I wish you to find your luck in Columbia or wherever you find the right place for you.

Bobbie

p.s. I almost became homeless (in the year 2011) . My 2nd and 11th houses are empty, so I can’t fly all over the World to find ideal place for me.

posted July 23, 2012 09:18 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Maybe he racked up miles from a previous job where he had to constantly travel.

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thank you for feedback.

I am very sorry, I didn't save his Natal Chart, to see now clearer, than before.

Maybe he was working as a stuart in the airplane? That could be one solution.

I would like to see, how looks Natal Chart from homeless people, they sleep in the Park. I remember that one man in Montreal spoke six languages: he was clochard and homeless.

posted July 23, 2012 09:44 AM            

I've Uranus/nept trine Ic. Aqua asc.
Empty 2h in pisces. Nept c0nj Ura in 12th trine m0on in 8th. My parents fund everything. Their m0ney - photography, 0nce up0n a time : drugs but I wasn't born then, n0w it's army.

posted July 23, 2012 10:34 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
What is homeless to you? Sleeping in a park? Or would living with others but don't have their name on a lease or own property? You know like they find someone to take them in. I think I know a gem like so but gems are adaptable so has never been really out in the streets.

No birth time so I dunno if the unaspected sun counts. Imcould ask him but doubt he knows unless he recently needed his birth certificate for something..

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Thank you for the Chart.

I would like to know about people, they are really homeless, what means they sleep in the park and eat somewhere, once a day. Their food are beer and and some brandy (beer is also food and brandy gives warmtn).
Here could be the sun without aspects. Somebody says that unaspected planets give all possibilities. I don't think so.

B.

posted July 23, 2012 10:39 AM            

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Originally posted by depth:
I was born in a foreign land and m0ve fr0m country to country, state to state, house to house like a n0mad. It's n0t a nice feeling. I feel like I bel0ng n0where. N0 stability. Future's always uncertain. When my friends speak f0ndly of their culture and like, I feel unlucky. I stay in a hostel btw. Last year, it was a c0nvent. N0 idea where I'll be next year.
I've Uranus/nept trine Ic. Aqua asc.
Empty 2h in pisces. Nept c0nj Ura in 12th trine m0on in 8th. My parents fund everything. Their m0ney - photography, 0nce up0n a time : drugs but I wasn't born then, n0w it's army.
Ic in taurus. 9h in Libra. Venus in Sag in 10th(my parents travel because of their job. I travel in search of better educati0n opportunities). Jupiter, unaspected, in 9h.

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depth,

you don't belong to this group: one day you will have your home and place to stay for longer time.

I wouldn't mind to travel from one country to another and see, how other people live. Your life is much better than somebody's, who is always in the same city, same home or the sane country.

posted July 23, 2012 11:00 AM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I know several people that travel and live transient lifestyles. They basically just couch surf. It's definitely a choice for them (and a political statement, often times).
I wish I had a birthtime for the specific person I'm thinking of... he's a Virgo Sun, Gem Moon (most likely, could be Cancer Moon), Mercury & Mars in Virgo too, Venus in Libra.

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There are unsteady people: they can't be on the same place for longer time. To travel around today, people need money. They probably work something on the way and so earn their money. Other people travel for one month or more. After that, they find some job (Australian people do so) to get money and go on. That is good.

Homeless is somebody, like one woman in the capital here: after she gave (writing will) all her material things to her son (also apartment), he threw her out on the street. As there are very few women on the street, this woman died after few months: on the bank in the park.

Very sad story in democratic country!

posted July 23, 2012 11:07 AM            

Now Im rich and have bought flats to my children. I have my own house including 2 flats.

I on that time had a choice to stay in my born town or move and when I today see the result I will never change my mind about my choice. That was right. My life are much better today and more interesting and I feel me more rich also about life experiences.

Ive mercury, uranus, pluto in house 2
neptun in house 4
moon, venus, NN, mars in house 11.

posted July 24, 2012 04:08 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
I was poor and homeless about 12 years ago.. I took my children 400 kilometre from the town where we lived. I got the luck to get a small flat like a big room in bad surroundings for a while. After time I get a better flat there we could stay permanent and it was there everything start ....
Now Im rich and have bought flats to my children. I have my own house including 2 flats.
I on that time had a choice to stay in my born town or move and when I today see the result I will never change my mind about my choice. That was right. My life are much better today and more interesting and I feel me more rich also about life experiences.
Ive mercury, uranus, pluto in house 2
neptun in house 4
moon, venus, NN, mars in house 11.

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Bobbie

posted July 25, 2012 04:37 AM            

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: ). I lived not far from Stockholm and moved to gothenburg. I work in norway and have done so in many year. I on that time start work really hard and save money. I bought a cheap flat in a bad surrounding . But i thought that will be a good surrounding there many people want live and I got right. I sold that flat and got the double. I bought a new one and did the same with also that apartment. I bought 2 flats to my children. Now I did the same with my house. No man give me money. Ive got my richdom by hard work and my believe on things other people not trust on.

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popcorn,

I was right about countries, but not about your origin and men (you wrote somewhere that you were married two or three times). This is very good information about Norway, because one young man here will soon go to Norway. He wants to know first the language and then go there. We know, how friendly are people from Norway.
You must be very hard worker, to do all that without any support.

Greetings to the North,
Bobbie

posted July 25, 2012 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I actually know a homeless woman! She carries the world in her little, white metal cart. I think, if I ever see Miss Wiggie, I'll ask her her birth specifics. Her house was recently taken back by the city and demolished. Now she wanders and watches the sunsets.

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Ugh that is so saddd! I feel even worse for old and homeless people coz the young ones can rise above it still but the old..

posted July 25, 2012 07:39 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Ugh that is so saddd! I feel even worse for old and homeless people coz the young ones can rise above it still but the old..

I've noticed people also have certain habits that make them repulsive so even if there are family and friends willing to care for them they give up eventually because of the reactions they evoke.

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posted July 25, 2012 09:10 AM            

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^Yeah it's completely terrible. As far as I know, she lived in that house with her sister, both on disability. But her sister died (I was there when they carted her away, plus all fourteen cats.) Siiiigh. Oddly enough, Miss Wiggie used to have hot pink hair (which was actually p cool for someone her age!)
It's faded now.

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There are many reasons, why somebody is homeless (illness, bankruptcy, ect). Some countries (government) take care about such a people. They give them some small flat, to have place for sleeping and at least one meal per day.
Not everybody takes drugs, or drinks, like other people around them think or say.

(Poor people they are sick and get no help)

posted July 25, 2012 02:43 PM            

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Originally posted by bonadea33:
There are many reasons, why somebody is homeless (illness, bankruptcy, ect). Some countries (government) take care about such a people. They give them some small flat, to have place for sleeping and at least one meal per day.
Not everybody takes drugs, or drinks, like other people around them think or say.

(Poor people they are sick and get no help)

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There are many people in our world who fight for surviving and I agree with you. We can all be on the situation there we can lose everything. Im not sure about my life either even if Im just today are rich. Tomorrow I can lose everything. I just for time live like I will lose everything... I got my house and garden so I can feed me and my family ...
so we atleast survive.

but we cant forget all people who not can take care about oneself. I think when people use drugs everything will be worse and they will be in the swamp really quick. It doesn't matter how much money they have. They will lose everything quick.. also the soul.

Mentally ill people are also one another category of people who not cant take care about their self. They need help. The society must help those people. We must all give to that.

I want think there must be an possibility for everyone to get out of all that bad like what homeless means. We cant give up our life without fight for a better world. I think we can do whatever we want if we want. Ive seen people lose everything and be back again. I will never lose my hope on an better world to everyone.

posted July 25, 2012 02:47 PM            

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Originally posted by bonadea33:
There are many reasons, why somebody is homeless (illness, bankruptcy, ect). Some countries (government) take care about such a people. They give them some small flat, to have place for sleeping and at least one meal per day.
Not everybody takes drugs, or drinks, like other people around them think or say.

(Poor people they are sick and get no help)

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More or less, I'm a Sag/Leo moon/Aries and realized that this could happen to virtually anyone so looked into the "how to live well" if it ever happened.

For example, have student loans to pay down, am single, so such a choice is not unthinkable for me at least.

posted July 26, 2012 04:16 AM            

Many people will always try to reason, why do they end up homeless in the first place? Must be their own fault and their own doings that they end up like that. Why should I help? I don't even have enough to feed my own! Bla bla..yada yada. Actually there are many reasons why someone will be homeless. It can also happen to anyone without warning and such. Some reasons include looking for a better life at Kl, well u can't blame them as Kl had been painted like a place with a lot of pot golds for everyone. But not everyone is that lucky in finding their pot of golds right?

Some of course, runaway from family, some got thrown out by family, some really asked for it , etc etc. There are young and old, all races, all patterns all behaviors. People if have a choice will not choose to be anything lower, or as the saying, will not choose to be bald if they have hair. If you say it's karma, well we don't have to add the burden to their karma. we can always help to lighten their burden right?

Most of them when we deliver their food, they are very grateful and thankful. They also praise us for being dedicated in our effort, rain or shine we will be there. However, i think i am the one that should be grateful and thankful for being given a chance to serve humanity. it's not so much bout the food, really. It's further than that. there are other feelings involved and the experience u get out of this cannot be replace by any amount of money u own. even u might be rich, but if u do not give back to society, you will feel empty and meaningless. ur money can't be brought along to the grave thou.
And on a more lightening note, they even share the food among themselves who did not get any food. Some rejected our food when they have eaten and asked to be given to others who have not eaten. This just tells you, human basically should be caring and sharing.
Anyway, we are always short of food as more and more people are put behind by developments and made homeless. It really doesn't matter , well at this post anyway, don't reason why they are homeless for it will just give u an excuse not to help or be the righteous helper that u are. we don't reason why and how they got there. We just help whatever we can. U might think, hey how much a RM2.50 for a pack of vegetarian rice can help? Well it can help a lot.

p.s. Good explanation!

posted July 26, 2012 05:26 AM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:

Mentally ill people are also one another category of people who not cant take care about their self. They need help. The society must help those people. We must all give to that.

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Ruler of my IC is Saturn in opposition sign, what is never good. Saturn squares my ASC and all in the 1st house. Only good aspect to my Saturn has the Moon in Pisces
(I should live beside sea side, one day).

My long chronic pains are connected with the job: Mercury from 6th (illness) has square with MC.

Bobbie

posted July 27, 2012 04:09 AM            

I wouldn't like to have such a Natal Chart. It is better to have no planet in 4th (I don't have) than negative Saturn.

My greatest wish is to know, how to read Solar Return (not always is the Sun most important). To know good SR and Medical Astrology, for me is enough.