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Topic: Does Jupiter sort of act like a "mini Sun Sign"?
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henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 16, 2022 09:19 PM
Or is it just a very prominent position in its own right as far as playing a prominent role in a person's life/astrological chart?The reason I ask are because of 2 reasons: 1.) I thought that the outer planets played a less significant role in your life compared to the main celestial bodies being, obviously the sun, next the Moon, rising, and the rest of the inner planets. 2.) I'm a Jupiter in Cancer, Gemini Sun, but sometimes I feel like I'm more of a Cancer than I am a Gemini. I can typically read people like a book, sense feelings very easily, and even "feel" what people are thinking a lot of times. I'm also Jupiter Conjunct my Friend's Cancer Sun, and I feel like I'm more like a Cancer Sun sign like him a lot of times, or in a lot of scenarios than my actual Sun sign. I also don't really have a whole lot of Cancer placements in my chart either. It's mostly Scorpio actually. Only Cancer placements are Chiron in Cancer in the 9th, North Node in Aquarius in the 4th, and Jupiter in Cancer in the 9th. My Chiron also conjuncts my Jupiter in Cancer, both in the 9th. It's not really near the ascendant either, and it's closest to my Midheaven in Leo. Does this mean that any particular of area of my life that I consider "work oriented" that it means that Cancer is heavily going to make its presence known? What about the fact that I have all of these aspects? Moon Sextile NN Moon Square Neptune Moon Square Uranus Moon Conjunct Mars (Aries) Moon Sextile Mercury and astro.com says that I have more Neptune aspects than I do Moon, even if it is just 1 more. I don't know why though, but I feel as if I'm growing more into a Cancer the older that I get. Is this because I'm almost a Cusp Gemini? Or is this more of the result of such a big planet influence like, Jupiter for example, being in an exalted placement like Jupiter in Cancer? How prominently is Jupiter felt in general compared to other signs? Is Jupiter in Cancer heavily felt in general?
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 600 From: us Registered: Sep 2018
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posted January 16, 2022 10:48 PM
Jupiter is Cancer is where its exalted. Jupiter blessings + cancer heart energy is very prominent. From wikipedia: "Since Jupiter is exalted at 5° Cancer this signifies "deep" exaltation in the heart of the Dharma pāda of Pushya Nakshatra in the sign of Cancer which provides the astronomical reasoning of Jupiters exaltation degree. Esoterically speaking, when Jupiter is in Cancer (which signifies the heart), and is being influenced by Bṛhaspati (the teacher of the Gods), and is directed toward righteous action (Dharma pāda) Jupiter is functioning in 100% exaltation, concerning everything Jupiter represents." IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 6432 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted January 16, 2022 11:06 PM
I am a Jupiter Cancer, with Aries Sun. People are more likely to guess I'm a Cancer than Aries. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees Knowflake Posts: 9109 From: South Africa Registered: Dec 2012
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posted January 16, 2022 11:35 PM
Is Jupiter in Cancer parallel Sun? Where is the Moon?IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 12:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by athenegoddess: Jupiter is Cancer is where its exalted. Jupiter blessings + cancer heart energy is very prominent. From wikipedia: "Since Jupiter is exalted at 5° Cancer this signifies "deep" exaltation in the heart of the Dharma pāda of Pushya Nakshatra in the sign of Cancer which provides the astronomical reasoning of Jupiters exaltation degree. Esoterically speaking, when Jupiter is in Cancer (which signifies the heart), and is being influenced by Bṛhaspati (the teacher of the Gods), and is directed toward righteous action (Dharma pāda) Jupiter is functioning in 100% exaltation, concerning everything Jupiter represents."
Is this under the Placidus system? I'm not sure what you mean when you say that Jupiter is Cancer where it's exalted. Care to elaborate? Which astrological system are you referring to? Vedic astrology? Jupiter in Cancer is exalted as it is said to do it's best work there, but I'm not entirely sure if that's merely what you're referring to here. IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 12:20 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: I am a Jupiter Cancer, with Aries Sun. People are more likely to guess I'm a Cancer than Aries.
That's interesting. I wonder why this is. Do you think it is because of your Jupiter solely or do you think there are other influences at play within your chart? A woman at work's first guess was that she thought I was a Cancer. IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 12:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Aries23Degrees: Is Jupiter in Cancer parallel Sun? Where is the Moon?
Not sure what you mean by parallel Sun. I suppose this is something I have never looked into as far as astrology. I believe I'm a Sun Square Moon, to a lighter degree. They're both at a little more than an 81 degree aspect. I suppose it's still considered a square, although I'm not sure to what degree what exactly the prominence is with it. I don't think this is what you mean though. My Moon is in Aries though and it lies in the 5th house.`Although, the exact degrees could potentially denote some form of Cancer influence, other than its aspects. I don't really know how to look up if it lies in a placement that could be considered Cancerian in nature. I suppose it could be, but I feel my Aries Moon very strongly, but it's in conflict. Anyways, I'm not trying to trail off of topic here. IP: Logged |
Aries Eagle Moderator Posts: 2069 From: Άρης Registered: Jan 2013
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posted January 17, 2022 01:35 PM
Interesting fact about Jupiter is that all our solar system planets can fit inside Jupiter! but that's astronomy.. In astrology having an exalted planet make it more prominent, Jupiter is exalted in Cancer as other members noted. http://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/bafact -math-jupiter-is-big-enough-to-swallow-all-the-rest-of-the-planets-whole IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted January 17, 2022 02:12 PM
There is something in it. I often feel like I come across more like my Jupiter sign than Libra. I’ve been told often I’m unusual and I have a problem to be a part of a group. I prefer to do my own things. I’m not sure about appearance, but I think I often give Aqua, Scorpio vibes. Scorpio probably would be a better with teams and more practical because they would know how to manipulate them and get what they want. But I don’t navigate social situations as Libra. However, I have much going on around my axises so I might give contradicting impressions.. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 369 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 17, 2022 02:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by henryhampton: Is this under the Placidus system? I'm not sure what you mean when you say that Jupiter is Cancer where it's exalted. Care to elaborate? Which astrological system are you referring to? Vedic astrology? Jupiter in Cancer is exalted as it is said to do it's best work there, but I'm not entirely sure if that's merely what you're referring to here.
Planets can express their energy more easy in certain signs because it’s more in alignment with that particular energy. This is also known as planetary or essential dignities, you can google it for more info. Planetary energy expresses itself best when they are in domicile, the sign that the planet rules. Jupiter is in its domicile in Sagittarius and Pisces (traditional). But another sign where it expresses its energy comfortably is Cancer, where Jupiter is exalted. It’s not as strong as domicile where the planet rules but when in exaltation the planet is received as an honored guest. When a planet is in a sign where their energy is easily expressed it becomes more dominant in your personality. In the opposite signs the planet has more difficulty expressing its energy. Jupiter is in detriment in Gemini and Virgo. Jupiter is in fall in Capricorn. When you have Jupiter in these signs in your birth chart you can struggle with expressing the Jupiter side of your personality. I hope this helps. IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 04:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: Planets can express their energy more easy in certain signs because it’s more in alignment with that particular energy. This is also known as planetary or essential dignities, you can google it for more info. Planetary energy expresses itself best when they are in domicile, the sign that the planet rules. Jupiter is in its domicile in Sagittarius and Pisces (traditional). But another sign where it expresses it’s energy comfortably is Cancer, where Jupiter is exalted. It’s not as strong as domicile where the planet rules but when in exaltation the planet is received as an honored guest. When a planet is in a sign where their energy is easily expressed it becomes more dominant in your personality. In the opposite signs the planet has more difficulty expressing its energy. Jupiter is in detriment in Gemini and Virgo. Jupiter is in fall in Capricorn. When you have Jupiter in these signs in your birth chart you can struggle with expressing the Jupiter side of your personality. I hope this helps.
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henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 04:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: There is something in it. I often feel like I come across more like my Jupiter sign than Libra. I’ve been told often I’m unusual and I have a problem to be a part of a group. I prefer to do my own things. I’m not sure about appearance, but I think I often give Aqua, Scorpio vibes. Scorpio probably would be a better with teams and more practical because they would know how to manipulate them and get what they want. But I don’t navigate social situations as Libra. However, I have much going on around my axises so I might give contradicting impressions..
So what is your Jupiter? IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 04:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aries Eagle: Interesting fact about Jupiter is that all our solar system planets can fit inside Jupiter! but that's astronomy.. In astrology having an exalted planet make it more prominent, Jupiter is exalted in Cancer as other members noted. http://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/bafact -math-jupiter-is-big-enough-to-swallow-all-the-rest-of-the-planets-whole
Cool. I was looking for more specifics, because I know Jupiter is exalted in Cancer. It was more of a question of the overall bearing it has on a person's chart compared to their Sun, rising, and Moon mainly. I wish to understand it's true influence. I sort of feel like everyone is kind of saying the same things over again. No offense, just the way I feel. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 369 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 17, 2022 04:21 PM
@henryhampton, in another post you mentioned that your Moon is in aspect to your Ascendant. Inconjunct is a minor aspect but if it’s in a tight orb it could still be an important influence. As someone else mentioned, your Moon could also be parallel your Ascendant or Sun. You need to check the declinations in your natal chart to see if there are any parallels. I have my Cancer Mars parallel my Gemini Mercury. In my natal chart my Mercury is at a declination of 22N45 and my Mars is at a declination of 22N42. Maybe you could also check your draconian chart. If you enter your birth chart on the website of Astro.com, it’s one of the options available. Your draconian chart is linked to your north node and your soul’s purpose. Maybe there is a strong Cancer influence in that chart. IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 04:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: @henryhampton, in another post you mentioned that your Moon is in aspect to your Ascendant. Inconjunct is a minor aspect but if it’s in a tight orb it could still be an important influence. As someone else mentioned, your Moon could also be parallel your Ascendant or Sun. You need to check the declinations in your natal chart to see if there are any parallels. I have my Cancer Mars parallel my Gemini Mercury. In my natal chart my Mercury is at a declination of 22N45 and my Mars is at a declination of 22N42. Maybe you could also check your draconian chart. If you enter your birth chart on the website of Astro.com, it’s one of the options available. Your draconian chart is linked to your north node and your soul’s purpose. Maybe there is a strong Cancer influence in that chart.
How do I check all of this on astro.com? I don't do Draconic, as I've found myself to only believe in the Placidus system only. Thank you though. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 369 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 17, 2022 05:00 PM
You can go to pdf/additional tables. Then it will open a printable table where the declinations are also visible. You can then check if there are any planets parallel. A draconian birth chart is not so much a different system to Placidus but more an added layer. It’s an option available at the options for zodiac and houses, instead of Tropical you can check the option for Draconic. However, you should use what you feel comfortable with. For me, it was a confirmation of certain patterns in my birth chart. For example, I have a Libra Ascendant and in draco I have a Libra Sun. My IC is in Capricorn and my draco Moon is in Capricorn. IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 05:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by PlutoWasHere: You can go to pdf/additional tables. Then it will open a printable table where the declinations are also visible. You can then check if there are any planets parallel. A draconian birth chart is not so much a different system to Placidus but more an added layer. It’s an option available at the options for zodiac and houses, instead of Tropical you can check the option for Draconic. However, you should use what you feel comfortable with. For me, it was a confirmation of certain patterns in my birth chart. For example, I have a Libra Ascendant and in draco I have a Libra Sun. My IC is in Capricorn and my draco Moon is in Capricorn.
Ok, I found the additional tables PDF file, but I don't know how to check for "parallel" planets. Is this a certain degree like a conjunction? What is a "parallel?" Do I just match the declinations of each planets and if they're at the same declination that means that they're parallel? How does a parallel carry out in someone's chart? IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1362 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted January 17, 2022 05:36 PM
henryhampton, Aquarius. I think I come across as Aqua often if that got lost in the first post.IP: Logged |
Radium Knowflake Posts: 623 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted January 17, 2022 05:41 PM
Jupiter is strong in my chart it is a blessing. First house Jupiter in Sagittarius (Sextile Moon and Mercury, Trine Mars, Square Sun and Saturn) It really is a special planet because not everybody is born with natural faith and optimistic vision, it definitely invokes your higher thought. I actually have to remember not everyone is as courageous or restless as me, which can be a bit of a bummer. Going full nerd but Mars trine Jupiter has saved my butt countless times. What I've noticed about this aspect is that it bestows really good physical health and almost unlimited energy. I wish everyone had Mars Trine Jupiter. It makes you a warrior for the people and a fighter for what you believe in. It's inspiring. Most of the time a person with this aspect grants good timing with a desire to live without fear. Don't mess with somebody with this aspect. They are like a Jedi. I don't even think Mars/Pluto can compete with this aspect because mostly we have abundant energy we can always tap into. Fear isn't in our vocabulary!!! God bless IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: henryhampton, Aquarius. I think I come across as Aqua often if that got lost in the first post.
Yeah, it did get lost. but that's ok, at least I know. Interesting that that's how others see you as though. I suppose it makes sense since Jupiter to me is kind of like a mini sun in that it expands everything it touches. You're probably very zany if I had to guess. What do I know though? I typically want to know things so specifically that someone else's specifics are my "surface" if that makes any sense lol. I'm an extremely specific individual. I'm the type of person that I'd have a field day with a 10 page essay of a specific point in general. Aka: you can't be specific enough with me. Mercury in the 8th isn't satisfied until it can see the very molecules themselves moving around, and even then it has severe questioning. I find it hard to find the right amount of words to explain anything that I want to explain to anyone. Words can't technically do it justice in my opinion. Show me! Show it! What is "it??!"" What is it?! (this is how my mind works) I have to know what "it" is so I can take it outside and play with it for a couple of days, running tests, analyzing the details, trying to feel out where it stems from, the source. Then I interrogate this, until I am dead certain that I know EXACTLY what it is that I'm dealing with until I'm blue in the face. Then, as I set "it" free, I watch with intensity from multiple distances to prove to myself that I was "right" in what I learned about or discovered. An astrologer once told me that I can't take virtually anything at face value because I question everything. I'm like the kid that asks, "why? , "why?" , "why?" lol except it's in a more mature, distinct, and productive manner. Some people would argue that it borders insanity, but I just call it "there's always a source with everything." A clock doesn't tick and tock, for no reason. There's a reason behind everything. IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 06:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Radium: Jupiter is strong in my chart it is a blessing. First house Jupiter in Sagittarius (Sextile Moon and Mercury, Trine Mars, Square Sun and Saturn) It really is a special planet because not everybody is born with natural faith and optimistic vision, it definitely invokes your higher thought. I actually have to remember not everyone is as courageous or restless as me, which can be a bit of a bummer. Going full nerd but Mars trine Jupiter has saved my butt countless times. What I've noticed about this aspect is that it bestows really good physical health and almost unlimited energy. I wish everyone had Mars Trine Jupiter. It makes you a warrior for the people and a fighter for what you believe in. It's inspiring. Most of the time a person with this aspect grants good timing with a desire to live without fear. Don't mess with somebody with this aspect. They are like a Jedi. I don't even think Mars/Pluto can compete with this aspect because mostly we have abundant energy we can always tap into. Fear isn't in our vocabulary!!! God bless
Yeah I can imagine Jupiter inside of Jupiter is like some kind of supernova, and then when Mars is added into the mix, it pretty much sounds like game over to me. lol. It's probably overkill. And that's saying something from a Moon Conjunct Mars. Jupiter is a special planet, just like the Sun, it bestows great wisdom, life, and an abundance of optimism. Afterall, Sagittarius are the explorers or adventurers of the zodiac. Whatever Scorpio brings to the table, Sagittarius goes on an expedition with it. Pisces expands with everything because they understand all and nothing better than any other sign. I can imagine you fight for your beliefs like a kid would fight for their toy. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 5799 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 17, 2022 07:31 PM
Jupiter is the biggest planet in our solar system, second only to the Sun. Of course it would act like a mini Sun sign in our chart.I had never thought about that, and it makes a lot of sense. Thank you for this new insight! IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 4875 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted January 17, 2022 07:39 PM
No. Jupiter is considered exalted — in a quite beneficial placement in Cancer, but I would never think of it as a "mini Sun sign." That's sign-based thinking and astrology is planet-based.But I'm a bit confused because in the other thread on Moon quincunx Asc you talk about not trusting your feelings, yet here you talk about reading people quite well through 'feeling'. ------------------ The Declinations Guy | Expert Birth Chart Rectification Join me at Health Positive! my newsletter on substack: http://healthpositive.substack.com/ IP: Logged |
henryhampton Knowflake Posts: 69 From: USA Registered: Jan 2022
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posted January 17, 2022 07:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Kannon McAfee: No. Jupiter is considered exalted — in a quite beneficial placement in Cancer, but I would never think of it as a "mini Sun sign." That's sign-based thinking and astrology is planet-based.But I'm a bit confused because in the other thread on Moon quincunx Asc you talk about not trusting your feelings, yet here you talk about reading people quite well through 'feeling'.
My emotions. Don't worry, the confusion is all encompassing on my side as well. IP: Logged |
PlutoWasHere Knowflake Posts: 369 From: The Nether World Registered: Mar 2021
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posted January 18, 2022 02:01 AM
quote: Originally posted by henryhampton: Ok, I found the additional tables PDF file, but I don't know how to check for "parallel" planets. Is this a certain degree like a conjunction? What is a "parallel?" Do I just match the declinations of each planets and if they're at the same declination that means that they're parallel?How does a parallel carry out in someone's chart?
Hi henryhampton, if you would like to learn more about parallels and declinations, I suggest you click “The Declinations Guy” link in Kannon McAfee’s signature. IP: Logged |