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Topic: MC vs 6th and vocational paths "callings"
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MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 5251 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted July 19, 2021 01:28 PM
Would a person consider their 6th moreso if they have no degree or certification of a career standard - yet they feel more imortance than mundane in their job/path? Or if a person is inclined to treat or feel a position of work they seek/take/have is bigger to them (maybe a vocational calling or a creative area that is less rigid) than just earning bread, though they have no Education by the acedemic standards, could it be "self" who decides of it crossing into the MC territory, like a guitarist with passion - the world can see this passion- as though they become the guitarist rather than told they are one? That energy of the person in the garage band that exhibits such energy, people walk by "oh that guitarist is playing again" - Rather than a derisive or random remark about a hobbyist. So they appear to be that perceived as that which they (the artist) carry their passion for.
What are your thoughts? Is MC about *Official-ity* ? How does it reflect in your charts?
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 19021 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 19, 2021 01:53 PM
I actually hate that I’m lost in this area. I used to be motivated, and working towards different things. I have my Mercury, Ceres, Chiron, and sun in Aries, the 6th. Jupiter is there, with equal house, but I think it fits me more in the 5th. My MC is ruled by that Sun. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 5251 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted July 19, 2021 02:49 PM
@Teasel, thank you. I mean, what (other than degrees/certifications) can cross someone over from a 6th house to 10th when it comes to work - that they feel is more a path/career - yet "the man" didn't have to say so. For instance bloggers. Say they start out just hobbyists. Then boom! Radically are seen as professional - yet no professional institutions or certification was ever part of it.
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 19021 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 19, 2021 03:05 PM
I’m going to check someone chart later. I don’t have his birth tine, but he’s 28, and runs one of the biggest “e-sport” teams. They’ve just revealed a huge partnership with Gucci. I don’t know if he went to college, but thus us definitely a hobby turned into a huge career. You can google “nadeshot” and “famous birthdays” if you want to try looking at his chart. He’s a Leo, born in 1992. He posted something on twitter. I’ll get back with that soon. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 19021 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 19, 2021 03:14 PM
Here’s his tweet: http://twitter.com/nadeshot/status/1417182288735989761?s=21 One of the co-owners is Valkyrae, 29, cappy with an Aquarius moon, and Sagittarius ascendant (she said this herself). She attended community college, played video games since she was a kid. She had three jobs, and a large following on Instagram, when someone told her that she should start streaming on twitch, in her early twenties. In 2018, she set herself a goal with the game Fortnite. During that time, other streamers noticed her, hosted her on their channels, and since there was talk of joining teams, they had her playing/collaborating with people in those teams. Her career really took off in 2018, she joined his team, and now she’s a co-owner, because he credited her with helping the business to grow so much. I’ve just realized that I’m not answering your question. Sorry. I’ve just seen all of this today, and I thought that it fit. I’ll come back later. IP: Logged |
Nadja Knowflake Posts: 554 From: Finland Registered: Nov 2018
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posted July 19, 2021 03:24 PM
One of the things I associate with the 6th house is service, to serve other people. So if a person's calling is connected to service then I think it could be more visible in the 6th house than in the 10th/Midheaven. I also think of the 6th house as being about a persons daily grind so to speak... which may or may not include their job. I don't think Midheaven is generally about degrees or certifications though. MC is the public view of a person, which can include anything a person is known for. In essence I think that the 6th house is more our private inclinations re: our daily life in general, both on and off work. Our habits and what drives them. The MC on the other hand is what the public sees of us or how we want to be seen by the public... and also what aspirations we have, what we want to achieve. There is no daily grind there. If we have a passion that drives us towards a goal, then I think that said goal is more MC territory, while the passions might show in the 6th house... if that makes sense. I have Mars and Mercury tightly conjunct Midheaven in Cancer. Empty Pisces 6t house. I work as a librarian, which feels like a calling. Ironically I think my Pisces 6th house shows a disinterest for the daily grind... I'd rather escape that in any way possible. I don't want my work to feel like work. I want it to be fulfilling and creative. I enjoy work where there is flexibility and fluidity rather than rigidity. I don't think that my Pisces 6th house indicates my specific career as a librarian in any way, but it shows the inner tendencies that makes being a librarian so fitting for me. These tendencies were probably a good fit for a number of other vocations too though. Mercury conjunct Midheaven in Cancer, in mutual reception with Moon in Virgo 12th, are probably good indications of my vocational path. Finding enjoyment in the organization of information, as well as a good intuitive understanding of other people are what makes me a great librarian. ------------------ My chart: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/f8/94/9b/f8949ba84e82b9596b77bd5098a17021.jpg
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MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 5251 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted July 19, 2021 03:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nadja: One of the things I associate with the 6th house is service, to serve other people. So if a person's calling is connected to service then I think it could be more visible in the 6th house than in the 10th/Midheaven. I also think of the 6th house as being about a persons daily grind so to speak... which may or may not include their job. I don't think Midheaven is generally about degrees or certifications though. MC is the public view of a person, which can include anything a person is known for. In essence I think that the 6th house is more our private inclinations re: our daily life in general, both on and off work. Our habits and what drives them. The MC on the other hand is what the public sees of us or how we want to be seen by the public... and also what aspirations we have, what we want to achieve. There is no daily grind there. If we have a passion that drives us towards a goal, then I think that said goal is more MC territory, while the passions might show in the 6th house... if that makes sense. I have Mars and Mercury tightly conjunct Midheaven in Cancer. Empty Pisces 6t house. I work as a librarian, which feels like a calling. Ironically I think my Pisces 6th house shows a disinterest for the daily grind... I'd rather escape that in any way possible. I don't want my work to feel like work. I want it to be fulfilling and creative. I enjoy work where there is flexibility and fluidity rather than rigidity. I don't think that my Pisces 6th house indicates my specific career as a librarian in any way, but it shows the inner tendencies that makes being a librarian so fitting for me. These tendencies were probably a good fit for a number of other vocations too though. Mercury conjunct Midheaven in Cancer, in mutual reception with Moon in Virgo 12th, are probably good indications of my vocational path. Finding enjoyment in the organization of information, as well as a good intuitive understanding of other people are what makes me a great librarian.
Nadja, that was so very helpful. Thank you. How might it be if the chart owner was a "service to others" type, yet to begin it is a home (4th) home front.The 6th and 4th rulers might be most influential with this? IP: Logged |
Nadja Knowflake Posts: 554 From: Finland Registered: Nov 2018
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posted July 19, 2021 03:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by MoonMystic: Nadja, that was so very helpful. Thank you. How might it be if the chart owner was a "service to others" type, yet to begin it is a home (4th) home front.The 6th and 4th rulers might be most influential with this?
Yeah... I think there would be some 4th house connection in that case. Like the ruler of the 4th house being in the 6th house maybe?? IP: Logged |
Pale Blue Eyes Knowflake Posts: 61 From: Whatever Forever Registered: Oct 2020
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posted July 19, 2021 03:56 PM
My Sun is conjunct my MC (2°) and I'm a full-blown academic. PhD, tons of degrees and certificates, published papers and book chapters, exposure in my field of research etc. Students like me and my peers respect me. I hate it though. I enjoy the intellectual work but loathe everything else (the environment, the people). So I'm trying to change careers. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that my Jupiter is square my MC, and I have Jupiter in 1H. I also have Uranus, Neptune and Lilith in 6H. Dunno if that's relevant. I've never felt a 'true calling'; I've always had tons of interests and they all differed, so I just picked a career that allowed me to explore them through my intellect, doing research, writing about them etc. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 5251 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted July 19, 2021 04:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by Nadja: Yeah... I think there would be some 4th house connection in that case. Like the ruler of the 4th house being in the 6th house maybe??
Thank you Nadja. IP: Logged |
MoonMystic Knowflake Posts: 5251 From: Registered: Nov 2016
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posted July 19, 2021 05:02 PM
quote: Originally posted by Pale Blue Eyes: My Sun is conjunct my MC (2°) and I'm a full-blown academic. PhD, tons of degrees and certificates, published papers and book chapters, exposure in my field of research etc. Students like me and my peers respect me. I hate it though. I enjoy the intellectual work but loathe everything else (the environment, the people). So I'm trying to change careers. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that my Jupiter is square my MC, and I have Jupiter in 1H. I also have Uranus, Neptune and Lilith in 6H. Dunno if that's relevant. I've never felt a 'true calling'; I've always had tons of interests and they all differed, so I just picked a career that allowed me to explore them through my intellect, doing research, writing about them etc.
Pale Blue Eyes ~
Thank you. Very helpful as well. So basically even those who have drive to pursue a career path in the official matter, may not feel as tethered always to MC/10th. Is your calling you think you could still have? I mean maybe it is yet to be activated? I think those who go to school continually may not quiet the mind long enough to hear their calling. Like plans all laid out. Building their career structure. Just a thought? I'm thinking sword and cups, as in tarot. Maybe the 6th is more heart centric and 10th more Sword centric though they both are governed by Earthly powers. Virgo/Capricorn. Mercury and Saturn are starkly opposite. A calling might require the heart being unblocked. When we are in structure it might block heart calling. All that goes into a successful academia career and leading into an actual career could quiet a calling. I'm rambling.
I think "Neptune and Lilith in 6H" Due to your softer, yet breaking free energy there represents your heart being more attached to the heart (6) side, rather than heady side (10). When using the tarot as a tool 6 is often good and rep of the Lovers too. Heart based really. Whereas 10s are burdens in half of them. With success in 10 - comes burden. With 6 it is sweet, balanced and possibly not plentiful - it's like the painter who finds success in his passion and forgets there are another 4 unobtained coins. Astrology wise, Service house benefits the chart owner two ways ---As long as they love doing the chosen service.
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