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Dreaming111
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posted September 22, 2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know how they say people are karmic mates? For example if you have 12th house synastry or if your vertex makes a significant aspect, that is supposed to mean you are fated to be together. Even if it's not the dreamy, romantic idea of being a soul mate, you are forced to finish unfinished business.

Well, that would mean this person had significant aspects in the past life as well for that person to reappear in this life. If that's the case then....

....does that mean we simply meet the same "strangers" again and again in each life cycle? The same guy I met today might have been my cousin in my past life, my pet in the one before, my mother in the one before that. Who knows? What do you think?

(I'm Hindu btw, so I do believe in reincarnation and that all living things have souls. So I supposed a connection with a tree in one life might manifest as him being your lover in the next life. lol Jeez.

If there is a God or a higher power, dang I wish I could just peek into his or her mind for a second.)

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violet7887
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posted September 22, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it doesnt have to mean that if you had past life connections then you had connections previously as well.

if you can meet new souls then that does not have to be certain. example you knew someone in your previous life whom you also know now, your past life could have been your first in counter with them.

but of course it is also possible that you do meet the same stangers over and ovver again also.

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posted September 22, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I strongly believe that once a soul has reached a certain level of consciousness, it cannot be a tree or a pet again.

But about soulmates, yes, it's possible to feel the connection. I'm blessed (or should i say cursed?) to have several people in my life i feel karmic connections with. With one of them i remember everything that happened, my love for him and the promise to never forget and find again. Others are just so close and mysterious... 12th house synastry and nodes should be relevant, if both - the better. I think, however, that 12th house synastry without nodes contacts wouldn't necessarily mean that two persons really met in their past lives because we can have many people who have something in our 12th house, but it's only a few of them that have this and plus - strong contacts to our nodes, i think in that case it doesn't really matter SN or NN, yes, the energies are different, but the essence the same - it's karmic.

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Dreaming111
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posted September 22, 2012 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
I strongly believe that once a soul has reached a certain level of consciousness, it cannot be a tree or a pet again.

But about soulmates, yes, it's possible to feel the connection. I'm blessed (or should i say cursed?) to have several people in my life i feel karmic connections with. With one of them i remember everything that happened, my love for him and the promise to never forget and find again. Others are just so close and mysterious... 12th house synastry and nodes should be relevant, if both - the better. I think, however, that 12th house synastry without nodes contacts wouldn't necessarily mean that two persons really met in their past lives because we can have many people who have something in our 12th house, but it's only a few of them that have this and plus - strong contacts to our nodes, i think in that case it doesn't really matter SN or NN, yes, the energies are different, but the essence the same - it's karmic.


Well we have 12 hours stuff going on
His moon, pluto, saturn in my 12th.
My venus in his 12th.

We have tons of saturn....bleh. We have north node aspects too.

All our angles conjunct too.

Composite vertex in 7th house.

I'd rather start fresh each life.
Oh well, but anyway. It's something I'm ocd about, not as much emotionally but I think about it at least a couple times a day.
I can't make my brain stop it.

I feel like we have unfinished business, but I do not want to have any business with him, after what he put me through. And I hate the mind games. Maybe I'm thinking we were old rulers fighting one another. That's what it feels like. lol

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posted September 22, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
I strongly believe that once a soul has reached a certain level of consciousness, it cannot be a tree or a pet again.

But about soulmates, yes, it's possible to feel the connection. I'm blessed (or should i say cursed?) to have several people in my life i feel karmic connections with. With one of them i remember everything that happened, my love for him and the promise to never forget and find again. Others are just so close and mysterious... 12th house synastry and nodes should be relevant, if both - the better. I think, however, that 12th house synastry without nodes contacts wouldn't necessarily mean that two persons really met in their past lives because we can have many people who have something in our 12th house, but it's only a few of them that have this and plus - strong contacts to our nodes, i think in that case it doesn't really matter SN or NN, yes, the energies are different, but the essence the same - it's karmic.


yeah, i agree, one very clear indicator of someone you know from a past life is 12th house synastry with nodal contacts. If you have this with another, it is karmic and very significant for your growth in some way in this life.

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Aeline
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posted September 22, 2012 06:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by violet7887:
yeah, i agree, one very clear indicator of someone you know from a past life is 12th house synastry with nodal contacts. If you have this with another, it is karmic and very significant for your growth in some way in this life.


And instant recognition. One i have now. His Venus & Mars in my 12th, his Moon on my SN, both of our Saturns are exactly conjunct each other's NN. I wonder what we'll teach each other with that. But definitely - past life stuff.

Another indication about some unresolved karmic affairs should be seen in a natal chart, i suppose. I have asteroid Karma retrograde in my 7th house, conjunct DSC, squared by Mars exactly. I feel like all my relationships have an element of fate in them, i don't know what it would feel otherwise, lol.

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posted September 22, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aeline:
And instant recognition. One i have now. His Venus & Mars in my 12th, his Moon on my SN, both of our Saturns are exactly conjunct each other's NN. I wonder what we'll teach each other with that. But definitely - past life stuff.

Another indication about some unresolved karmic affairs should be seen in a natal chart, i suppose. I have asteroid Karma retrograde in my 7th house, conjunct DSC, squared by Mars exactly. I feel like all my relationships have an element of fate in them, i don't know what it would feel otherwise, lol.


Aeline, I agree with you after a certain growth point you don't revert to being an animal etc. But for say a serial killer he definitely would start the cycle again.

That aside I'm interested in understanding your r/s. With his planets in 12th house, do you feel like running away from him? Also, do you have any natal aspects to uranus?
Do you have any planets in his 12th house?
If you could it would be nice to see your natal and synastry charts.

Thanks

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posted September 22, 2012 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
You know how they say people are karmic mates? For example if you have 12th house synastry or if your vertex makes a significant aspect, that is supposed to mean you are fated to be together. Even if it's not the dreamy, romantic idea of being a soul mate, you are forced to finish unfinished business.

Well, that would mean this person had significant aspects in the past life as well for that person to reappear in this life. If that's the case then....

....does that mean we simply meet the same "strangers" again and again in each life cycle? The same guy I met today might have been my cousin in my past life, my pet in the one before, my mother in the one before that. Who knows? What do you think?

(I'm Hindu btw, so I do believe in reincarnation and that all living things have souls. So I supposed a connection with a tree in one life might manifest as him being your lover in the next life. lol Jeez.

If there is a God or a higher power, dang I wish I could just peek into his or her mind for a second.)


I {i]kinda[/i] agree with Violet.

I don't think it necessarily means that you meet the same people over and over. Some are probably people you're connected to on a soul level but you're encountering them for the first time in ANY life, in your current one...some you probably do have past life history with already...I think it's much more broad than that.

I believe in reincarnation and that everything has a soul too, barring plants/trees/vegetation. And I have a hard time believing that you can be a plant in one life and then incarnate as a person in the next just because it seems really far-fetched to me. But I absolutely believe that animals and humans all have souls, and that the two probably do incarnate interchangeably, but upwards, that eventually as your soul evolves, you stop coming back as a geese for instance, and start coming as a human. THAT part of what you said makes sense to me and I agree with it, but the incarnating as dandelions and bushes stuff, notsomuch.

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posted September 22, 2012 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Slummer:
I {i]kinda[/i] agree with Violet.

I don't think it necessarily means that you meet the same people over and over. Some are probably people you're connected to on a soul level but you're encountering them for the first time in ANY life, in your current one...some you probably do have past life history with already...I think it's much more broad than that.

I believe in reincarnation and that everything has a soul too, barring plants/trees/vegetation. And I have a hard time believing that you can be a plant in one life and then incarnate as a person in the next just because it seems really far-fetched to me. But I absolutely believe that animals and humans all have souls, and that the two probably do incarnate interchangeably, but upwards, that eventually as your soul evolves, you stop coming back as a geese for instance, and start coming as a human. THAT part of what you said makes sense to me and I agree with it, but the incarnating as dandelions and bushes stuff, notsomuch.


I kinda agree, that it may be broader. I'm not really sure. I suppose no one can be really sure of anything though.

Having said that I thought I'd toss in another tidbit for people to mull over. Hindus also believe that bacteria and insects have a soul. Jain gurus --Jainism is an offshoot of Hinduism-- wear white masks over their faces and walk barefoot. The logic is that even if they try not to kill or cause suffering to other organisms they will. It's inevitable, just by their living it harms other organisms. If they walk they will kill ants or bugs. If they breathe they might breathe organisms. Anyway, so the compromise is to reduce the harm caused to others.

Before Buddhism Hindus were not vegetarian. It's funny how a mainstream religion adopted a philosophy of an offshoot religion. Today, these religions are so meshed, it's hard to simply say one is Hindu or Buddhist.

Anyway, that was a huge tangent.

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posted September 22, 2012 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slummer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice primer, but ultimately unnecessary because I knew all those things already.

People are free to believe whatever they want, but just because I express disbelief or disagreement with it because it doesn't make sense to me personally, doesn't mean I'm ignorant about the religion or belief system I'm commenting on.

From here on out, assume I know what you do and don't need to be briefed on it, because nine times out of ten, I do, and it'll save you a few keystrokes.

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Dreaming111
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posted September 23, 2012 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Slummer:
Nice primer, but ultimately unnecessary because I knew all those things already.

People are free to believe whatever they want, but just because I express disbelief or disagreement with it because it doesn't make sense to me personally, doesn't mean I'm ignorant about the religion or belief system I'm commenting on.

From here on out, assume I know what you do and don't need to be briefed on it, because nine times out of ten, I do, and it'll save you a few keystrokes.


*face palm*

This was just me randomly speaking about Eastern philosophies. It wasn't directed to you specifically nor was it intended to paint anyone as ignorant.

I'm glad you are so knowledgable but a bit of humility and with that knowledge might do you some good. Idk why people get so uptight and defensive at every little thing. Relax. No one is trying to compete with you. Gosh.

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posted September 23, 2012 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His natal.

My natal.

Our synastry.

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posted September 23, 2012 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As to tell about us.

I've really met him just 2 weeks ago, but it was an instant connection from both sides, a recognition, you know. It's so interesting... i live in a city of a million people. I found a new job. He works there too, started work a few days earlier than me. And it turns out that he is a childhood friend of the man i love, from my memories and past lives.. can you imagine that? How could that happen? I never could think of that happening.

As for me and him, no, i don't try to run from him, i like him very much and so does he, i don't know how that's gonna continue, i just have to wait and see.

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