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lovehate122
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posted October 09, 2012 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a difference between the good aspects and the hard ones?

Is it always unrequited love?

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posted October 09, 2012 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus/Pluto can be some of the bestttt, and especially so if it's a double whammy. I dunno if it's always unrequited...I wouldn't imagine so,

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posted October 09, 2012 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lovehate122:
Is there a difference between the good aspects and the hard ones?

Is it always unrequited love?


Hard aspects will hit you...and knock you backwards, immediately! You won't be able to miss it, pluto comes out swinging with the hard aspects! As im finding out though, a double whammy might make it less painful, like you sense you are equals so nobody goes for the jugular immediately, out of respect!

Soft aspects are more likely to flow into you, not felt or noticed as profoundly at first but they still add spice and they are less likely to do so much damage that you can't recover!!
Pluto isnt all bad, but its always going to be a bit of a push pull game, with the pluto person trying to show dominance but really not trying to hurt you just trying to help!
Pluto in hard aspects is kind of like someone who doesnt know there own strength, they do things that use to much force and end up breaking something rather than making it better.
Are you asking unrequited as in the pluto person is obsessed and the venus person is getting a restraining order? That would be a square aspect and no, its not always like that!
The ability for the venus person to handle pluto energy is based on their familiarity with the energy...if they have a lot of pluto activity in their birth chart and are used to its intensity the energy won't terrify them into running but if they don't it can overwhelm them, and they want no part of it!

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posted October 09, 2012 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it`s not always unrequited.
Actually I have no idea where that unrequited-stuff came from.

Venus-Pluto is just as likely to be unrequited as ANY aspect that couples a personal planet with an outer.

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posted October 09, 2012 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Venus/Pluto can be some of the bestttt, and especially so if it's a double whammy. I dunno if it's always unrequited...I wouldn't imagine so,

I agree, it needs to have a balance in order to be positive! If not it can be more like a battle where one person is unarmed!

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posted October 10, 2012 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gabby:
Hard aspects will hit you...and knock you backwards, immediately! You won't be able to miss it, pluto comes out swinging with the hard aspects! As im finding out though, a double whammy might make it less painful, like you sense you are equals so nobody goes for the jugular immediately, out of respect!

Soft aspects are more likely to flow into you, not felt or noticed as profoundly at first but they still add spice and they are less likely to do so much damage that you can't recover!!
Pluto isnt all bad, but its always going to be a bit of a push pull game, with the pluto person trying to show dominance but really not trying to hurt you just trying to help!
Pluto in hard aspects is kind of like someone who doesnt know there own strength, they do things that use to much force and end up breaking something rather than making it better.
Are you asking unrequited as in the pluto person is obsessed and the venus person is getting a restraining order? That would be a square aspect and no, its not always like that!
The ability for the venus person to handle pluto energy is based on their familiarity with the energy...if they have a lot of pluto activity in their birth chart and are used to its intensity the energy won't terrify them into running but if they don't it can overwhelm them, and they want no part of it!


thats how i feel , im all air and earth . this intense pluto nonsense doesn't wash with me .

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posted October 10, 2012 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's usually aspects to Neptune that are indicated in unrequited love

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lovehate122
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posted October 10, 2012 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hard aspects only or no ?
Most of my relationships have neptune in them because Neptune is very important in my chart and most of my relationships or crushes are unrequited . Maybe Neptune makes me ugly .
ah well what can you do .

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posted October 10, 2012 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus and Pluto rule side-by-side signs, Libra and Scorpio. Venus also rules Taurus, the sign that opposes Scorpio. When signs are side-by-side and in opposition to one another, they are as different as can be. Venus symbolizes harmony, beauty, pleasure, and love, while Pluto symbolizes transformation, sex, death, rebirth, and intimacy.

In synastry, Pluto brings intensity, obsession, possessiveness and a craving for intimacy. Pluto wants to delve deep to uncover what’s underneath the surface. Superficiality does not appeal to Pluto; he wants something deep. He wants something transformative, something that transcends the boundaries between two people. Not in the Neptunian, spiritual way, but in a more physical, psychological way. Venus, on the other hand, wants balance and harmony. Venus is known as a superficial planet, as she craves beauty and cooperation above everything.

Venus-Pluto in Synastry

When Pluto meets Venus in synastry, the Beast meets Beauty. Pluto is not impressed by Venus’ social graces and flowery tastes. He is tremendously attracted to her charm, grace, and beauty, yes, but the attraction stems from far beyond her outer beauty. Pluto sees right into Venus’s psyche. He wants to uncover her layers, and wants to know her deepest, darkest secrets. He wants to take Venus into the depths of intimacy, where true bonding and intimacy take place. At first, Venus is taken aback; she is both frightened and intrigued by Pluto. She is flattered by his attention and interest in getting to know her, but his intensity is frightening. She loves his passion, as it makes her feel desired and beautiful. Venus knows she cannot hide from Pluto, and the temptation is hard to resist. If Pluto feels his level of intensity is not matched by Venus, he will increase his intensity until they are on the same level.

As in all Pluto synastry aspects, the Pluto person has the “upper hand”, and the planet person (in this case, Venus) is the submissive partner. As the relationship develops, the couple becomes demanding of each other. The fear of losing one another affects them both, giving rise to feelings of insecurity, jealousy, and possessiveness. Pluto desires complete domination and control over Venus, while Venus is eager to please Pluto. Pluto will continue to dig and dig at Venus’ mind until he is satisfied with Venus’ affection. “All or Nothing” characterizes this union. Pluto is not willing to share Venus, and uses manipulative tactics to ensure Venus belongs to him, and him only.

Pluto forces Venus to see something about herself that she wanted to keep hidden. His role is to transform Venus by exploring the depths of intimacy and sharing. The relationship is highly sexual, and the chemistry is addictive. This level of passion is the highest you will have in your life as the two explore and play out each others’ deepest, darkest secrets and fantasies. This aspect can result in sexual exploitation, as well, given Pluto’s dominance over Venus, and Venus’ desire to please Pluto in any way she can.

If you’ve ever read “Fifty Shades of Grey,” you have a good understanding of Venus-Pluto in synastry. In the book, the young, handsome millionaire, Grey, meets a young, innocent virgin, Ana, and the two begin a sexual relationship, characterized by dominance and submission. Grey calls the shots in the relationship, telling her the relationship will be only sexual in nature. Grey tests Ana’s sexual limits, bringing out a sexual side of her she never knew existed. Ana finally becomes exhausted with the relationship, and leaves Grey, but the level of passion and intimacy the two shared would never be forgotten.

One final note: Venus-Pluto in synastry aspect can also result in financial exploitation. In addition to love and beauty, Venus also rules finances and personal possessions. Pluto may take advantage of Venus’ desire to please him by taking over her finances.

The preceding description applies especially to hard aspects between Venus and Pluto in synastry. The sextile and trine encapsulate the positive side of Venus-Pluto; there is intensity and obsession, but it is less consuming and negative than we find in the hard aspects.

http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!venus-pluto-in-synastry/cn89

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posted October 10, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quinnlycanastro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Easy and hard aspects. I have every planet in aspect to Neptune in my chart, some easy, some hard.

Maybe surprisingly, the hard aspects can sometimes be beneficial because the discomfort can force issues to the surface quicker.

Trines can sometimes cause more damage because they can produce apathy...which means negative situations carry on unchallenged.

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posted October 10, 2012 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by quinnlycanastro:
Easy and hard aspects. I have every planet in aspect to Neptune in my chart, some easy, some hard.

Maybe surprisingly, the hard aspects can sometimes be beneficial because the discomfort can force issues to the surface quicker.

Trines can sometimes cause more damage because they can produce apathy...which means negative situations carry on unchallenged.


what about oppositions in synastry?

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Got Gemini??
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posted October 13, 2012 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini??     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my Pluto exact sextile ms Scorpio's Venus 0°. The part about wanting to know the deepest depths of Venus is very true. I don't think I'd ever manipulate her though. I guess I should be aware of that if I ever feel it.

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JLyn ~
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posted October 13, 2012 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
6 years ago me and my lover had Venus opposite Pluto.
Me- pluto, Him- venus
I wanted the relationship to last for our child but he was the possessive manipulate one I had to put a retraining order on, so I'd say Pluto has a hard time letting of the Venus sweet honey but Venus finds the Pluto intensity irresistible to life without

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