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Sugarplum
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posted March 10, 2013 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sugarplum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have both of these in my natal chart, but i'm really confused on how this influences my life? do any of y'all have this and know how it manifests in your life?

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peregrine
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posted March 10, 2013 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peregrine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't have a scorp 12th house cuso but i have scorp pluto in h12.

Pluto in the Twelfth Your Experience of Transformation through
House Crisis is Focused on Self-Transcendence or Destruction
Pluto is likely to manifest its energies in the Twelfth House in extreme ways. The combination is likely to produce either an intense pull toward spirituality or much pain and negativity. Ideally, often after undergoing a spiritual crisis, you will steadfastly pursue a path leading to transcendence of your ego-self. However, most likely because of fear and resistance to the unknown, you may try to ignore this pull or may divert it in a self-destructive direction.
Sometimes, you may be successful in sublimating the energy symbolized by Pluto to some mundane end. In such cases, the energy of Pluto in the Twelfth House is most likely to manifest itself as a strong attraction to various types of institutions, including religious institutions, hospitals and prisons. This attraction may take the form of fascination or you may display great insight towards or within one of these institutions. The attraction may also manifest itself as a desire for power within one of these institutions.
More often, you are either unaware of or you resist the inner pull toward spirituality. If this is the case, your subconscious may work to bring you to a realization that you should be working to transform your inner life and transcend your ego. This is most often done through you experiencing sorrow, crisis, pain and suffering in your life. You may experience some crisis that involves you with the penal system or with various health institutions. These crises may turn you toward a religious institution for aid, or you may, through such a crisis, depart from a religious institution.
Often, the crisis that produces such pain and suffering either seems to come out of nowhere or it seems to be fated or to be the "payback" for actions performed by you previously. It is not uncommon for such crises to involve the unexpected death of someone close to you. In more extreme cases, you can be driven toward self-destruction.
Transcendent Potential
You have the capacity for complete self-transcendence, although this may be a spiritually painful process. You must ruthlessly face yourself and strip away all of your illusions. Ultimately, you realize that you are nothing. Your ego is the ultimate illusion, for in Reality, it does not exist. Through the sacrifice of your ego, however, you are able to merge completely into the Boundless All.
Insecurity
If you are inwardly insecure, then you will not give up your hold on the ego no matter what. You fear death above all else, having an existential dread of nonexistence. Time and again you suffer great pain at the expense of maintaining your ego-identity. Often, much of the pain is derived from your fear that you will lose your identity. The inner knowledge of your own nothingness may even drive you to self-destruction.
Your ego clings even to pain and negativity in its effort to hold onto itself, while your subconscious is willing to sacrifice your personhood in order to "show" you the reality of your non-existence. Sometimes your path to self-destruction is a violent one involving drugs, alcohol and/or deception.
Your Experience of Crisis and Transformation
The crises faced by you are essentially spiritual or have the intent to turn you to spirituality. Such crises may involve institutions, such as hospitals or prisons. They are also likely to be connected with a fear of the unknown or a fear of non-being. The transformative outcome of such crises, if you are willing to transform yourself, often involves your awareness of yourself as a being with no real independent existence. You realize that you have only "conditional existence." This realization frees you from the shell of the body and the coat of the personality and allows you to experience the rich inner life that is your heritage. It also, however, implies an extreme—though blissful—loneliness. Nietzsche’s Zarathustra atop his mountain is an apt symbol for this state.
Focus of Your Power Drive
You may attempt to gain power within or through various institutions. More generally, however, you are likely to be engaged in trying to gain control over chaos in your life. The drive to power in your psyche is most likely to be a drive for power over the unknown. In this process, countless phantoms may present themselves to you that need to be harnessed and controlled. Since the world is filled with unknowables and uncontrollables, your attempt to exercise control over the unknown generally leads to frustration.
Focus of Sexuality and Intimacy
You may be attracted to the mystery and mystique of sexuality and employ the unknown to heighten your sexual experience. However, it is also possible that you may be confused by sexuality. Your sexual drive may be dispersed and weak. Confronted by the unknown, you may not know what to do or you may not have a clear idea about your own sexual identity. Sometimes, it is attractive for you to engage in deceit and/or delusion with respect to sexuality. Another manifestation may be that you sacrifice your sexuality, particularly for engagement in some spiritual discipline.
-- Gargatholil

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