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Topic: Stelliums and singletons.
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Libreo
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posted March 25, 2013 03:31 PM
  
Which one, generally speaking, has the stronger influence?
For instance I know someone with a Virgo stellium AND a Sag singleton. Which would you say has more of an influence over their personality?IP: Logged |
LionFish
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posted March 25, 2013 03:34 PM
Seeing as how they're both mutable, my money would be on the Sag singleton, depending on what planet it is.I think stelliums have a tendency to blend all the energies of the planets involved and it gets a little bit lost. Whereas that singleton is like a 5 year old jumping up and down "look what i can do!!" lol IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 25, 2013 03:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Libreo:
Which one, generally speaking, has the stronger influence?
For instance I know someone with a Virgo stellium AND a Sag singleton. Which would you say has more of an influence over their personality?
Good question! I have similar. Neptune is the water singleton, and four planets conjunct in Virgo/Libra creating the stellium. In my case, Neptune helps the stellium because it grounds the natal chart being one of only two planets below the horizon and since it's the water singleton, it reinforces all these planets, imo. Neptune creates conditions in my life that makes what is symbolized by this powerful stellium more desirable or something like that. As far as your friend, house placement and the angles might have a say in this. If the stellium is in an angular house, it would have a lot of influence in the life. Say, in the first house, your friend would get a lot of attention and would like to be the center of it. In the tenth house, would be out there in the world, rarely at home, spends a lot of time as a face in the crowd or on the career. Seventh house would mean partners and others in the immediate area would receive your friend's attention and he would seem overly dependent on others. Singleton planet...same thing goes for it. Where is it, what is it in aspect to? Does it square any Virgo planets? And to make things a little clearer, the way I see the singleton in my chart is, it represents my reality, the conditions in life I have to cope with, Neptune, along with Mars, because it's below the horizon as well. Neptune would be the stronger influence here because of the singleton effect. The stellium, above the horizon, is how I cope with this reality. IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted March 25, 2013 04:08 PM
I don't have his tob, but here are his details. Sun Gemini 20º 5' 44"
Moon Taurus 23º 44' 23"
Mercury Cancer 14º 8' 49"
Venus Gemini 27º 3' 30"
Mars Virgo 14º 32' 42"
Jupiter Virgo 3º 11' 29"
Saturn Virgo 20º 30' 47"
Uranus Scorpio 22º 27' 37"
Neptune Sagittarius 21º 20' 7"
Pluto Libra 19º 3' 27"
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 25, 2013 04:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Libreo:
I don't have his tob, but here are his details. Sun Gemini 20º 5' 44"
Moon Taurus 23º 44' 23"
Mercury Cancer 14º 8' 49"
Venus Gemini 27º 3' 30"
Mars Virgo 14º 32' 42"
Jupiter Virgo 3º 11' 29"
Saturn Virgo 20º 30' 47"
Uranus Scorpio 22º 27' 37"
Neptune Sagittarius 21º 20' 7"
Pluto Libra 19º 3' 27"
Neptune does square Saturn and is the singleton if I am not mistaken. Mars/Saturn and a square from Neptune. This combination could create uncertain circumstances. What do you notice about his personality? Is there's something that stands out? Mars/Saturn can create a strong, steady will but Neptune will do it's best to dissolve and soften. Could create hassles at work considering the signs. People's actions could be deceptive or your friend's could be.
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Libreo
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posted March 25, 2013 04:20 PM
He is very hard to get used to. I always thought it was the Gemini (multiple personality) but I see so much Virgo and Sag in there. He is VERY VERY blunt and then completely surprised to learn that he has hurt peoples feelings afterwards. The Virgo brings out a critical nature which, combined with the bluntness, is pretty extreme. Lots and lots of "I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that" but never follows through. Very hard on himself but unable to make changes. The anger is dangerous to say the least, not much self control. HOWEVER extremely loyal and loving and honest and affectionate etc. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted March 25, 2013 04:27 PM
Gemini sun IS involved in a t square with Neptune (through opposition) and the Virgo planets Mars/Saturn and t squares, from what I notice, like to lock up energy and create a somewhat frustrating pattern. You are feeling the effects of this guy's t square, looks like. You feel frustrated because you do not think you can access a certain part of him? T squares can be difficult to overcome because they are so strong. I know someone who has one and is looking for love but with no grounding planets below the horizon and two t squares with Venus involving an opposition right on his ascendant, he has a difficult time manifesting this situation in his life. Meanwhile, family members of his have no problems whatsoever finding partners which makes the effects the t squares even more intense. IP: Logged |
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