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Topic: Obama's Chart
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Barbee Knowflake Posts: 363 From: Buffalo, NY, USA Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 23, 2013 02:57 PM
Go to http://alabe.com/cgi-bin/chart/astrobot.exe? and in put his data: Obama, Barack Gender: M Birthname Barack Hussein Obama II born on 4 August 1961 at 19:24 (= 7:24 PM ) Place Honolulu, Hawaii, 21n18, 157w52 Timezone AHST h10w (is standard time) Data source BC/BR in hand Rodden Rating AA Collector: Taglilate And then read under the wheel his description according to his placements. Remarkable. That is SOOOO him. Not trying to be political here but whether you like him or not... this is him. I set up the chart for Narubu, Kenya and it makes little difference. Just in case but I'm fairly sure he was born in Honolulu.
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starfairy Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted March 23, 2013 03:00 PM
It's sooo him, I agree..I've watched many biographies on him, and it's funny how much his personality matches up to his chart. People says he has a huge ego, and always believed he was destined for greatness (Leo Sun). He is a charismatic speaker (Mercury in Leo). He works hard, but plays hard (Leo). People find him unemotional and detached (Aqua asc). IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 6076 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted March 23, 2013 06:41 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbee: Go to .... [alabe] ... and in put his data: Obama, Barack Gender: M Birthname Barack Hussein Obama II born on 4 August 1961 at 19:24 (= 7:24 PM ) Place Honolulu, Hawaii, 21n18, 157w52 Timezone AHST h10w (is standard time) Data source BC/BR in hand Rodden Rating AA Collector: Taglilate And then read under the wheel his description according to his placements. Remarkable. That is SOOOO him. Not trying to be political here but whether you like him or not... this is him.
Barbee--- It was 'political' for you to say that! I'm soooo disappointed!! quote: I set up the chart for Narubu, Kenya and it makes little difference. Just in case but I'm fairly sure he was born in Honolulu.
wha????? Oh no.... I didn't realize that you are a "Birther," Barbee.... ? *oh! very heavy-sigh* I've done a lot of work on President Obama's chart, and with USA-Sibley. I was hoping to find someone I could share things with... But because you are politically extreme, I know that we cannot have good discussions together... Darn! President Obama's Natal Chart http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Obama,_Barack The Sibley Chart Astrology (Eric Francis) http://planetwaves.net/pagetwo/daily-astrology/the-sibley-chart-astrology/ USA-Sibley Sag Asc 12 degrees 21' http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Nation:_USA_No.1 IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 6076 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted March 23, 2013 07:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbee: I'm not a birther but I added that because some people are. It makes little difference in his chart.But you are right I am strong in my political beliefs and we would not like to go there... BO is not a favorite of mine but I have to say his chart is dead on.
I feel VERY uncomfortable when people use this language.... "dead" + my President!! I pray for protection over my President's life, and for the health of my Country, The United States of America! May President Obama be Blessed with good health, and long life! May he be successful protected from danger and kept from harm! My Country needs to HEAL the rift and pull itself together, not be ripped apart!! Sooo terribly sad!!! IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 6076 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted March 23, 2013 07:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by starfairy: It's sooo him, I agree..I've watched many biographies on him, and it's funny how much his personality matches up to his chart. People says he has a huge ego, and always believed he was destined for greatness (Leo Sun). He is a charismatic speaker (Mercury in Leo). He works hard, but plays hard (Leo). People find him unemotional and detached (Aqua asc).
"unemotional and detached" could also be understood as being professional, reflective, reserved, thoughtful, and patient.... People who "don't like" him would see these character traits in the 'negative' (but I understand what you meant when you added the cliche, 'Aquarius' ... But even Aquarians can be seen with that pre-set filter in place, bias) Have a nice day, starfairy! I wish everyone well.... IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup Knowflake Posts: 460 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted March 23, 2013 07:22 PM
I don't see obama as that detached but he has an air moon which I believe is more the culprit. They just come off as being more in control of their emotions and cool and collected.President Obama and I have conjunct ASC both at 18 degrees Aqua. Im anything but emotionally detached and seem to have emotional extremes. I have a first house moon, Pisces, and a lot of water so...the ascendant is modified by other natal placements. IP: Logged |
starfairy Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted March 23, 2013 07:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by mirage29: "unemotional and detached" could also be understood as being professional, reflective, reserved, thoughtful, and patient....People who "don't like" him would see these character traits in the 'negative' (but I understand what you meant by that when you added 'Aquarius'... but even Aquarians can be seen with that pre-set filter in place, bias) Have a nice day, starfairy! I wish everyone well....
Lol for the record, I'm certainly not a birther, and I absolutely adore Obama! I get the feeling you think I'm attacking him, but I'm not. I have a bit of a crush on him, to be honest. I was jumping up and down when he won, and I am a life-long democrat. I have Mars in Aqua, so I find Aqua ascendant men very attractive. He is often criticized for coming off as unemotional and detached. For example: http://www.forbes.com/2010/07/08/barack-obama-literature-leadershi p-opinions-columnists-daniel-freedman.html So are a lot of Aqua Ascendants. I don't think being detached is a negative trait at all, anyway. I don't like outwardly emotional people at all!!! Similarly, people also say he's very 'cool' and relaxed, another Aqua trait. He's not excitable, which I think is a good trait for a president. IP: Logged |
mirage29 Knowflake Posts: 6076 From: us Registered: May 2012
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posted March 23, 2013 07:37 PM
Thankyou starfairy and inthemisosoup! My Progressed Ascendant is Aquarius 9-10 degrees... I understand the detachment. (I have Sag Asc 11-12 degrees!) It's like having to rise up from a deeper place inside, somehow. Cheers to all! IP: Logged |
just_add_water Knowflake Posts: 67 From: florida Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 23, 2013 08:20 PM
him and his wife only have venus trine venus yet they are the face of all mainstream couples..very weird she is earth and water dominant and he is fire and air. with only venus trine venus no other indicators infact they are astorlogically a huge failure but voted the most powerful couple of our era. just shows IP: Logged |
CAY_512 Knowflake Posts: 642 From: Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 23, 2013 08:31 PM
What part of his chart makes him protective of his family? Like how he has a non-genetically modified organic garden but appoint Michael Taylor (lawyer for Monsanto) to the FDA (to approve harmful food for Americans)What part shows how much he cares & wants to protect only his family? IP: Logged |
starfairy Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted March 23, 2013 08:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by just_add_water: him and his wife only have venus trine venus yet they are the face of all mainstream couples..very weird she is earth and water dominant and he is fire and air. with only venus trine venus no other indicators infact they are astorlogically a huge failure but voted the most powerful couple of our era. just shows
I wouldn't say they're a failure, synastry-wise. We don't know MIchelle's birth time, so their entire synastry is not known.. They have a couple of really strong aspects.. Anyway, his Jupiter and Saturn are conjunct her Sun and Mars. Her Jupiter is trine his Sun. HIs Uranus and Pluto are widely opposite her venus and maybe her Moon His South Node is conjunct her Venus (!!) and maybe her moon. His Chiron is widely conjunct her Venus (and maybe Moon) His Neptune is widely trine her Venus and square her Mars. Her Saturn, Venus, and Moon are in his 1st house. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 8308 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted March 23, 2013 08:39 PM
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starfairy Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted March 23, 2013 08:39 PM
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just_add_water Knowflake Posts: 67 From: florida Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 23, 2013 08:42 PM
^^ politics thats what shows loli love how people swear they adore this guy ,hes a puppet his mannerism and power motives are not controlled by him. his demeanor is what we call fabricated but then again any one in the age bracket of 30 would have a hard time understanding the severity of corruption and they will choose to still believe lies being portrait to america through an unlawful constitution and obstruction of our own rights. My opinion one of the worst economic presidents if not the worst in history. so with that deficit his foreign policy does not protect him from the down fall and contribution to shedding blood in the name of money.
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just_add_water Knowflake Posts: 67 From: florida Registered: Feb 2013
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posted March 23, 2013 08:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by starfairy: I wouldn't say they're a failure, synastry-wise. We don't know MIchelle's birth time, so their entire synastry is not known.. They have a couple of really strong aspects..Anyway, his Jupiter and Saturn are conjunct her Sun and Mars. Her Jupiter is trine his Sun. HIs Uranus and Pluto are widely opposite her venus and maybe her Moon His South Node is conjunct her Venus (!!) and maybe her moon. His Chiron is widely conjunct her Venus (and maybe Moon) His Neptune is widely trine her Venus and square her Mars. Her Saturn, Venus, and Moon are in his 1st house.
thats a bit vague lol in that sense they are only a couple by chance because the most dominant traits do not support this relationship. but for astrology to stand a chance these two do not have the foundation to support anything out side of chance. in mathematic terms if we went according to pin pointing 6 factors in a chart by variation every couple would be considered strong. we cant pin point little things for it to hold a value.. the most efficent aspects are pretty poor. its like saying this is off this is off dam let me find something that is on. of course you are gonna find little indicators out of a whole chart lol IP: Logged |
starfairy Knowflake Posts: 814 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted March 23, 2013 08:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by just_add_water: thats a bit vague lol in that sense they are only a couple by chance because the most dominant traits do not support this relationship.but for astrology to stand a chance these two do not have the foundation to support anything out side of chance. in mathematic terms if we went according to pin pointing 6 factors in a chart by variation every couple would be considered strong. we cant pin point little things for it to hold a value.. the most efficent aspects are pretty poor. its like saying this is off this is off dam let me find something that is on. of course you are gonna find little indicators out of a whole chart lol
Like I said, we don't know her birth time. Where her moon, angles and vertex fall are very important. South Node connections are incredibly strong (past life connection), as is the Saturn/Jupiter conjunct Sun connection they share. Saturn-Sun and Saturn-Mars connections are very common in the charts of long-term couples. They also have strong Pluto and Uranus aspects. They also have a Sun-Moon trine (again, very common). They also have strong Neptune aspects to add some idealization and dreaminess to the mix. Overall, strong synastry IMO. These aspects are not 'little.' IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted March 23, 2013 09:36 PM
I like michelle obama a lot, she's the coolest first lady since Jackie O. You can really tell the character of a man by the type of wife he has.She seems really happy and madly in love with him. She could be a fire asc. Maybe aries or sag.
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Barbee Knowflake Posts: 363 From: Buffalo, NY, USA Registered: Mar 2013
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posted March 23, 2013 11:08 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by PixieJane: [B] And btw, I suspect Barbee has a lot of air in her chart. [QUOTE] You are dead on Pixie. I have 5 signs in air. And Libra is on my 7th house. the 7th is how people see you, and I bend over backwards to make things fair and when they aren't it infuriates me. However the main point of this topic was how accurate Astrology describes a person and I chose someone we are all very familiar with.Maybe we can do other famous people tool. When my sister was teaching me astrology she would give me birth data of a famous person and I'd have to work the chart and tell her who it was. Very good practice and I got them all correct. Fun game. Good job analyzing me Pix. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 5612 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted March 23, 2013 11:09 PM
^^I’ve read that Michelle Obama is a Scorpio ascendant with Neptune conjunct ascendant.IP: Logged |
Kerosene unregistered
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posted March 23, 2013 11:18 PM
meh.. She does not give off a neptunian vibe.IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 9561 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 24, 2013 01:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbee: [QUOTE]Originally posted by PixieJane: [B] And btw, I suspect Barbee has a lot of air in her chart. [QUOTE] You are dead on Pixie. I have 5 signs in air. And Libra is on my 7th house. the 7th is how people see you, and I bend over backwards to make things fair and when they aren't it infuriates me. However the main point of this topic was how accurate Astrology describes a person and I chose someone we are all very familiar with.Maybe we can do other famous people tool. When my sister was teaching me astrology she would give me birth data of a famous person and I'd have to work the chart and tell her who it was. Very good practice and I got them all correct. Fun game. Good job analyzing me Pix.
Welcome Barbee! I like all your air I have 7 in air so welcome to the club. I also liked your fairness to the chart and agree very much with PixieJane. ------------------ We need to listen to our own song, and share it with others, but not force it on them. Our songs are different. They should be in harmony with each other. ~ Mattie Stepanek IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 68626 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 24, 2013 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by CAY_512: What part of his chart makes him protective of his family? Like how he has a non-genetically modified organic garden but appoint Michael Taylor (lawyer for Monsanto) to the FDA (to approve harmful food for Americans)What part shows how much he cares & wants to protect only his family?
What a hypocrite!!!! ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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