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andrea22
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posted January 16, 2021 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrea22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First sorry for English grammar.
I have read on some article where one astrologer says about how opposite sex views us is connected to 7th house element and sign

It was said this:
How its best that woman have 7th house and its ruler in both water signs , because having water on DSC and its ruler means person is capable to evoke feelings in opposite sex.

then she said how if woman have fire on DSC it means men will look at her for fun and sex only and then leave her

For air,its texted they will look at her as friend mostly

and worst of all,for earth elements (i have DSC in capricorn) its written its worst combination,because it means earth sign/ruler on DSC means women are not capable to get attention from men,and they had the least amount of partners

She also stated some examples: if woman have water sign on DSC but ruler of DSC is in air,the man will have feelings for her (water) but with time he will start to look at her more as a friend (DSC as air ruler) or more as sex lover if the ruler is in fire, (friend if its air) etc..

if you get the point?

my DSC is in capricorn, ruler is Saturn in Sagg,so according to that logic,men i will be with will not feel much for me at first,but with ruler in fire sign he will eventurally see me as fun and sex only !? and thats basically that??

Have anyone heard of this,is this even trurth?
i believed as the artile was long and detailed,not happy to be honest,as she said worst is to have earth on DSC or its ruler

Can someone give me examples to show me this is not true? And if this all makes sense? if its truth,not to seem like i want to be told false,then life goes on.. what to do

Thank's to anyone

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posted January 16, 2021 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Things are more complex than this simplistic view on the DC.
I think people see the DC in us when they are in a close relationship with us, not at the first view, that's the ASC.
Don't worry. The DC in Capricorn means that you are looking for someone reliable and long-term.
Other aspects in the natal chart could say if the person will be taken seriously or not, if someone is into one-night-stands or not.

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posted January 16, 2021 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whoever wrote this is first of all sexist and irrational.... but also very unrealistic. A great majority of people do end up having long-term relationships and/or getting married. If only women with a water sign DC ever had relationships.... that would be a pretty strange situation lol

If the DC sign actually shows how you are perceived by the opposite sex... then depending on your DC you could attract more men who are into that “vibe”.. Whether the relationship is short or long term... would be based on so many other things going on between you astrologically, psychologically... age/maturity ... desire for an exclusive relationship etc.

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posted January 16, 2021 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can someone give me examples to show me this is not true?

Yes... all the billions of heterosexual women around the world in different cultures who are now in a long term relationship or married.... are all examples..

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posted January 16, 2021 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 18, 2021 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueScorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus on DSC and ruler of my 7th. I find I'm attracted to earthy Taurus-like guys more than I reflect that energy.

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posted January 20, 2021 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's like saying only the water signs will be loved. Crazy, lol. Whether or not you will attract love is also dependent on the energy you emit and that has to be seen not just by your 7th house/ruler but also your Venus, Moon, Mars etc.

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posted January 25, 2021 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never heard that one before but don't let it get to your head. There is no logic to back that up, sometimes you will come across information that is just nonsense. I am more than willing to accept unpleasant aspects in my chart if it makes sense. Sometimes I will come across something ugly and it will be an unconscious trait that I will recognize in myself upon discovering new info. You just have to think for yourself sometimes.

It is alot like using Sun signs alone to explain compatibility. As a Sagittarius, Virgos and Pisces are my worst matches but in my experience those are the signs I enjoy being around the most.

Like you I have a Cap desc & Sag Saturn. I also have a million other things as well. It doesn't matter what chart you are born with so much as how you use it. If you are accepting this as being truth then you might find that it is because of what you are projecting.

In my experience there is little to no truth in that statement. I do not say this to stroke my own ego, I actually feel weird saying this but I am speaking factually as I feel it might help you see things in a new light & recognize your own power. I have very magnetic aspects that have always provoked very strong reactions from people, good and bad. Just by simply being. The responses have taken on many forms throughout my life, it wasn't until more recently that I learned to fully control certain things.

I have always been very quiet & it was that trait that people have attacked my entire life. It caused an incredible amount of pain emotionally. I turned to drugs and alcohol as a teen to mask this pain like many do. I grew to love this trait though & wanted to be that strong silent type instead of the insecure shy girl who felt she owed people something for some incoherent reason. I changed myself in so many ways for other people which took years of deprogramming. My addictions nearly killed me a few times & I really didn't care, I just kept going. It took devine intervention to kick me in the right direction.

Today the very traits that were once a weakness are now my greatest sources of strengths. It is all about how you choose to express them. Love your chart because it is you & it will always be you.

If you do find this DSC B.S to ring true with you then perhaps there is a very good reason. Don't look at it in a negative light because it is temporary. Don't focus on that and just surrender to whatever you are attracting and role with it. Turn towards things that promote self growth. Be the person you would want to be with. Strong woman who are comfortable in their own skin are attractive regardless of where your DSC is. It transcends physical appearance. Feeling & thinking the way you currently do isn't going to attract any quality men. Like attracts like after all. You have the option not to sleep with someone. If you think that's all a man wants then don't even mess with him. Know your self worth. If a guy is worth it then he will respect that. If he is just a sleeze then he'll move on once he realizes you aren't playing his game & if that is the case then bullet dodged. Love appears the minute you don't need or care if you ever have it because you love yourself & need no validation from others.

Maybe the reason behind why this author believes this is because of what that DSC needs in relationships.

Here, lemme give some examples.

These are descriptions I just copied from the first site that popped up on a web search of DSC.

So here is what it says on water DSC:

Cancer:

Here we seek out people who mother us or nurture us, who look after us, but, because we have a Capricorn Ascendant, we may find them too clingy or overemotional. These nurturing qualities are ones we need to develop within ourselves.

Scorpio:

These people attract a partner who brings intensity and crisis. Someone who wants us to merge deeply within an intimate and passionate relationship.

Pisces:

We may find ourselves attracted to those who are more emotionally open than we are, they may be a partner who needs looking after or who is suffering in our eyes and who may have a deep creativity or spirituality that we lack.

Water is very feminine which men just are innately going to gravitate to, there is no way around it. These people would have earth Ascendants, giving them the image of practicality, grounded, patience (that was creepy, someone on TV said patience while I was writing that...) anyway, these woman give of the appearance of being very level headed & possess common sense. Something rare in this world right now. Now whether or not these woman actually own those traits is another story. But they project that energy. While these DSC men may very well just naturally find the most attractive, it seems like this one is one woyld also be more likely to attract karmic, short term & shallow relationships. Obviously not always but I say this because the initial attraction to the earthy appearance of the ASC may fade once the couple gets more comfortable of one another. The woman's core personality could lack those traits if not genuine. The asc will lose its appeal once the guy realizes those attractive traits were more of a mirage. The water descendants I would think would be more prone to turn more over bearing emotionally if the woman doesn't have a mature hold on this aspect. They are going to have a habit of becoming overly emotional in the relationship. Like Cancer, it kind of mentions what I am getting at, but they could feel they are responsible for the emotional well being of their S.O. and ignore their own out of fear they may lose their man if they do. The home & family is what drives Cancer & I can see how this DSC could become over bearing in a relationship.

Scorpio has that raw sexual power & what is hotter than that. But sex alone won't hold a relationship together alone. The woman may come overly possessive & intense. It can be vindictive & passive aggressive & eventually to much for the man.

Pisces wants someone emotionally damaged because they wish to heal and nuture these tortured souls. They do it out of love but it isn't their job. They put their partner first and ignore their own needs much like Cancers but I think cancers keep this trait specific to the members of their family. Pisces tend to treat all relationships this way. Pisces are so sensitive and open emotionally. They have a difficult time understanding why others don't express their emotions the same way and can become very invasive and take it personally.

Unless these DSC are emotionally secure & mature, eventually it will crumble. Unhealthy emotions will eventually become too much for one of the partners & a relationship can't survive on detrimental emotions. These woman may have an easier time attracting relationships, but a harder time sustaining them.

Fire Descendants are going to require fun, excitement and attract a very masculine energy. They're not good with vulnerable emotions. Air ascendants appear light, detached, logical & they are good at holding a conversation. Fire and air are outgoing and sociable. Men looking to for a quick lay probably see these woman as being easy and think "hey why not" they probably assume the woman is on the same page. They are easy to approach and talk to. The fire Descendant is going to respond positively to the natural energy a guy who is trying his luck is going to give off. It is naturally going to take on the traits specific to fire signs. Fire signs are just more egotistical by nature because of the strong fire element. They are going to be using their Sun/Mars/Jupiter when doing their mating call. Fire Descendants actually seem like they are the most likely to get hurt because of this. Men might not take them seriously & if they are not on the same page that reality could hurt. These people need to be the most cautious and patient in order to overcome the reckless, impatient traits of the fire sign. These people would benefit in taking things slow and develop a friendship first so they know the guy is worth their affection.

Air descendants are much less emotional in relationships and keep things light and fun. They seem to be more interested in having someone to talk to and chill with than having a romantic relationship. They are naturally detached emotionally so it may be hard for them to express what it is they want out of that relationship. They're more fearful that if they were to express their true emotions they may lose that person as a friend as well. Fire ascendants may seem too masculine for the man to be sexualy attracted to. That fire expression is easy for them to relate to and they feel they can talk to these woman like they can the guys. These woman need to learn emotional vulnerability as not to be a victim of unrequited love. Air isn't is a rational masculine energy, not aggressive like fire. I think Air has potential to have some of the most harmonious, rewarding and long lasting relationships, romantic and platonic once they overcome the difficulties that come with it. They would have that friendship as a foundation and any romantic feelings that may come from it are going to be the most genuine because this wasn't built on physical attraction. It was the mind,heart & soul the man fell in love with. The woman's personality is what triggered that attraction. This gives the feel of a true soulmate bond.

I see earth descendants as being a true gift because these woman have no interest in weak, immature, irresponsible men. Because of this is exactly the reason why these descendants may have the most difficult time getting attention from men. Key words: weak, immature & irresponsible. There is absolutly no shortage of these types in the world. These descendants are demanding traits that too few possess. The earth energy, regardless of the woman's maturity, is stable and the native is naturally going to repel any man not possessing their qualities. Whether we are aware of what this happening or not. Until the woman has developed the personality traits of her Descendant she isn't going to attract the types of men she needs. If anything these woman have the potential to be the one men find most desirable because it challenges them. I can vouche for these descendants having the fewest amount of partners but why is that bad? I had my first relationship at 19 and it continued for 10 years. There were several breaks & I had a couple quick flings but no one that I was interested in actual dating.

This was a karmic relationship but I learned alot. I had a soulmate relationship with a long time friend. I left my ex in 2016 and he got a divorce in 2019 and so we kind of dated, but this was years after I had met my TF in person so while I cared for this SM very much. The attraction wasn't like it had been. I wasn't emotionally available and anything else would just be me succumbing to insecurities.

Anyway, I need to wrap this up. But look at the earth traits and what is needed from that dsc. My capricorn Descendant definantly rings true. The water asc could make us seem to sensitive and emotional for some men. Specially since we not only need them to have these earthy traits, we appear to be an emotional burden that they will be expected to take care of too and who wants that?

When it comes to Capricorn in particular, these are descendants will take longer to fully develop because of the nature of the sign. Our Saturn return doesn't take place until we are around 30yo, we just require more patience if we want a meaningful relationship. It is around the same age that our ascendant becomes more subdued. We have grown into our Sun by this time and don't feel the need to protect it. We can handle the emotions of our moon better here too. We will always carry our ascendant but it transforms and takes new forms like everything else. Our physical appearance still takes on the form of our ascendant though. Water signs embody that raw feminine energy & once we overcome the negative traits of the ascendant, we will embody that delicate femininity without coming off as being overly emotional & sensitive & fragile.


Idk, that is just how I see it. No chart is doomed, like I said it 100% relies on how it is utilized.

"I think, therefore I am."

Hopefully you can decipher my ramblings.

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posted January 25, 2021 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's really nice, VeronicaNicole!

Someone told me once that we become our asc after 30 years old.

On point with the DC in Capricorn. Less relationships because they only accept a few that fit the maturity they seek.

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posted January 25, 2021 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mee_Chryssa

What do you mean by we become our Asc after 30?


The Ascendant is underrated IMO. It seems to play a much larger role than it is often credited. Calling it a "mask" makes it seem like it isn't that important.

Many sources believe it to reflect our higher selves. Essentially, it dictates our experiences to give us what we need this lifetime.

The planet ruling your Ascendant is the one needing these specific experiences. Not to say the rest of the planets don't need certain things but the ruling planet is the one tied to your soul's purpose.

For example, I am a Cancer rising, so the needs of my Moon will always always come first. It does not matter if I actively go against this, My subconscious actions will always honor my Moon's will.

We knew this, wanted this & agreed to this before we even incarnated & our higher self keeps us on track with this since we will obviously have no memory of it once we are here. Even if that planet doesn't appear to be all that important in your chart. It has more power than we may realize. We must take a look at everything in order to understand what it is that makes that planet so important to us.

In my case, I was well aware that my Moon is the one that calls the shots long before I heard about any of this. That woman has got a mind of her own. So once I discovered this role our Ascendants play, I did not doubt it for a second. Investigating charts of family and friends I couldn't find any reason to dispute this piece of info & usually it never came as much of a surprise either. It makes understanding people alot easier & clarifies alot about why they are driven to do certain things that I have questioned before.

So when looking at your planet, look at everything it touches & everything it does if you want to understand its importance.

My Moon is in Gemini in the 12th house.

I was born on a full Moon so my Sun opposes her in Sagittarius. Uranus & Saturn are conjunct my Sun & oppose my moon as well.

She also aspects Mars, Jupiter & Midheaven in my 9th house (well mars & Jupiter in 9th anyway.)

Chiron retrograde, which is the only retro in my entire chart besides the Nodes, is tightly conjunct my moon, also 12th house Gemini & shares identical aspects.

My 4th house cusp falls in Virgo @ 23° and ends at 29° libra, so a majority of my house is in Libra. My SN is the only thing occupying that house. The nodes also make soft aspect to my moon, obviously libra being trine & Aries Sextile.

The only thing I have in cancer besides the Ascendant is my Dark Lilith @ 0° in the 12th. DL is completely unaspected. No planets, points or main asteroids.

Our entire charts can be broken down to show how everything operates based solely on your Planet. I am not going to do mine, i just wanted to give an example on what all to consider. but it is very interesting seeing exactly how you operate.


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posted January 26, 2021 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good post, VeronicaNicole. It’s useful how you broke down the DSC signs by elements.

My friend has a Taurus ASC with mostly air/fire planets in her chart. I agree with what you said about one’s real personality being masked by an earthy ASC (if the rest of the chart doesn’t support so). She comes across very stable and down to earth like she really has her sh*t together but not so when you really get to know her. A lot of impulses and bad decisions to the point I don’t dare to take her advices anymore, 😆 but she remains one of my closest friends. She always attract intense relationships filled with power struggles. Her DSC ruler Pluto square Moon which I believe is the main cause.

I’ve a Gemini ASC Sagittarius DSC. Agree that I attract a lot of sexual advances. Even when they want a serious relationship it will also be filled with much sexuality. People have told me I exude sex appeal even though I don’t wear revealing clothes. I don’t think this is all my DSC though. It’s probably also my Venus square Mars and Mars trine Saturn. I read that the latter gives one sex appeal. The difference here is I’m selective who I sleep with and I don’t fall in/out of love easily. For me sex must come with love and affection. I’m 45yo with only 3 serious partners, all lasted years. I also only had my first real relationship at 19yo.

It’s unfortunate that fire DSC people give off such vibes but IME it doesn’t have to play out as having a string of flings and nothing more. My friend’s daughter who has an Aries DSC also only do serious relationships. Despite having a lot of admirers, she only went serious with 2 guys and now planning marriage with her current.

Nonetheless, I totally agree with developing a friendship first and test how serious the other person is before throwing your feelings in, and I would in fact give this advice to all, regardless of their DSC sign.

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posted January 29, 2021 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ESSSSSC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The DSC/7th shows how we relate one-on-one, while ASC/1st shows the first/general facade we present to the world.

So it makes sense close people may view us as DSC-y when it seems nonsensical. We exude ASC, so what gives?! The answer is the DSC/7th is what kind of people we seek, and our ideals of what serious relationships should be like - so we act X way and attract those type of relations. But 'on the surface' - to the general, to the large - we present/are our ASC.


Two examples:
1) Cancer ASC - so Capricorn DSC. I thought she was real delicate/sensitive, and emotional ... but when we got intimate, she felt very cold, seemed [self-]stifled.

2) Aquarius ASC - Leo DSC. Megalomaniac - but didn't want 'anyone' to know she cared so much about her impression/reputation (but I saw it because we were close - i.e. to 'others'/the world in general she acted/appeared as otherwise, but this opposite part of herself only I(close associate) knew/saw).

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posted February 06, 2021 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted February 07, 2021 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
That's really nice, VeronicaNicole!

Someone told me once that we become our asc after 30 years old.


Then what are we in the meantime? O-O

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posted February 07, 2021 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
Then what are we in the meantime? O-O

I think our Sun sign iir.


@OP he could (your love interest) be someone with desire in interest, studies, spiritual beliefs, work/career ~ desire can come in many ways. Not just s e x .. in fact if he's someine strong in passion than he'll likely love strongly too. There's more than just the desc in how the person willbe with you.


My desc is Gemini, It's odd the water I seem to have migrated to. A couple Gemini. I do enjoy the intellect of them though. Guess it is a trace here and there like a good recipe. They start out with water but somewhere there must be a dash of Gemini. lol

updated: Just phased me that my hubby (we have same chart, rising) that he likely sees me as a Gemini as I do him. Funny in tarot that's the Lovers card. We are like two parts of a whole having this shared desc is so Lovers.

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