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SilkySoft
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posted April 08, 2013 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello All,

This is my very first post here.

I would like to know what the astrological combinations that cause severe language & developmental delays ? And, also, from the chart, can it be predicted if the delayed child would eventually "catch up" or not ?

Please help !

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posted April 08, 2013 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello SilkySoft! Welcome to LL

to answer your question, look to Mercury, and
yes the chart can predict if he will catch up.

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posted April 08, 2013 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you.

His Mercury is in Taurus (45 minutes) along with Sun (22 degrees), in the 8th house. Is a catch up likely ? I don't know how to attach a chart, unfortunately !

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posted April 08, 2013 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mango     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's in his third house and what's the ruler doing?

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SilkySoft
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posted April 08, 2013 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon sits in the 3rd house in Sagittarius. The ruler,
Jupiter, is in Acquarius along with Neptune (6 th house).

Thanks.

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posted April 08, 2013 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted April 08, 2013 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he has any planets in 12 with trines or sextiles, it suggests he will catch up.

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posted April 08, 2013 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfortunately, there are no planets in the 12th !

I am very worried about this kid

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posted April 08, 2013 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because there are no planets in 12 does not mean he won't catch up, it's just one possibility because planets in 12 with good aspects represent people helping the kid with the 12 house planets make the most of what he has.

Where is his sun located and what aspects does it make?

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posted April 08, 2013 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun is in The 8th house in Gemini (16 degrees and 22 minutes).

Actually, I think I made a mistake in one of my previous posts, I think his ascendant is 1 degree Scorpio, not Libra.

Can I post his birth data here and see if anyone can see if there is hope for this kiddo ?

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posted April 08, 2013 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't have a problem with it and seeing a chart makes it easier. You can always mark out the birth data so no one can see personal info.

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posted April 08, 2013 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Link to chart below :

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SilkySoft
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posted April 08, 2013 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone access this chart via this URL ?
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29661&d=1337411006

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posted April 08, 2013 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see it.

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SilkySoft
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posted April 08, 2013 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, thank God ! I was getting desperate to share his data.

I am terrified about this kiddo's slow progress. Please advise, friends ?

Thank you all so much in advance.

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posted April 08, 2013 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TBH I am concerned about the moon. I will be objective, it's going to take some work with this moon since it is afflicted. A lot of times it's about working with the kid and try to develop what is there and accepting who the child is. Development is so relative and not a rigid concept.

Sun/Moon/Saturn form the t square pattern. Sun/Moon are in opposition, Saturn is blocking, no trines or sextiles to either luminary. This indicates why you are so worried about this child's progress in life.

Good news is, he has the trine from Mercury/Taurus to Saturn/Virgo.

Mercury is in angular house 7, Saturn is in 11. This aspect suggests much hard work on behalf of development, it will be a struggle but there will be rewards. This requires patience, it will not happen overnight but over many years, perhaps a lifetime. The trine indicates progress at a slow pace. Have him work on being patient when working on his abilities.

Try not to be critical.

Mercury/Taurus also has a nice sextile to Uranus/Pisces in 5 but clashes with Neptune/Aquarius in 4.

The aspect between Mercury in Uranus suggests sudden advancements in mental faculties that occur quickly and without explanation which can happen in kids with developmental delays.

Neptune cautions against becoming unrealistic or disillusioned about his capabilities and be accepting of who he is regardless of how he is progressing. Be honest about it.

Then, there's the square to the sun from Saturn. This aspect suggest frustration, Saturn is trying to deny the sun of it's possibilities. Sun and moon are both having issues which indicates patience and acceptance. Yes, there will be advances but it's important to accept the child for who he is, also, encourage him to accept himself, as well. His soul is here to experience life this way and it might be different from how others experience it but it still has plenty of value and meaning to the individual with such planetary placements. No need to worry. He will prevail with love and support around him and you will benefit from the experience of watching him thrive and meet obstacles head on.

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posted April 08, 2013 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much, Starlight. I will never give up the fight and will love him till my dying day, regardless of who he is, and how he turns out.

However, I do worry about his future - not for my sake but for his. Life can be a challenge for even those who can walk, talk, work and have a means of livelihood. I thank God every day that he isn't in a wheel chair, and can run, jump, climb and be physically active. But, I do worry about his challenges with language & communication. I certainly don't expect to raise an Einstein or an Edison or a Lincoln, but I do want him to be able to communicate his needs, wants and ideas, and just be a regular Joe.

It is very hard for me to say this, but I just want him to be a TALKING / communicative human being, even if not an extraordinary one.

Do you think he will ever talk ? When you say progress, do you mean overall progress / gain in intellect or did you mean language development ?

Also, when can we expect to see some jumps promised by the Mercury - Uranus aspect ? He will be 4 soon.... And we could do with some hope !

Please, please advise ? Also, given the nature of his Moon, what sort of difficulties can I expect ? He is emotionally stable (so far) and very social, but is that likely to change as he matures ?

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posted April 08, 2013 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I understand your fears and concern but this child, like every child, has great potential for happiness indicated by Venus and Mars in the chart. He is so much more than talking. In fact, he might express himself through writing or sign language. There are many possibilities. It will not be what you are used to. It will be his way and that way is important to him.

Venus and Mars indicates to me this kid has big time happiness potential. I would definitely focus on him having happy experiences and disposition. The chart indicates these are very important to him and his life and cannot be overlooked. Aim for a child hood that promotes as much joy as possible and you will like the results!

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posted April 08, 2013 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It is very hard for me to say this, but I just want him to be a TALKING / communicative human being, even if not an extraordinary one.

Do you think he will ever talk ? When you say progress, do you mean overall progress / gain in intellect or did you mean language development ?

Also, when can we expect to see some jumps promised by the Mercury - Uranus aspect ? He will be 4 soon.... And we could do with some hope !

Please, please advise ? Also, given the nature of his Moon, what sort of difficulties can I expect ? He is emotionally stable (so far) and very social, but is that likely to change as he matures ? [/B]



He should start school soon where the staff will help him with development. Even if he doesn't talk, he can still communicate, please do not worry. What is right for him is the most important thing, especially in childhood. His school will help counsel you on how to communicate with him, I am sure. They can be a marvelous resource in this, so can doctors and medical staff. Have you consulted them? They can be very supportive, so can connecting with other people who have children experiencing the same things in life.


He has a second house moon in Sagittarius. This particular sign is one concerned with joy and happiness with Jupiter as it's ruler which is why optimism is so important to this child's future and well being. Communicate with others who have children with developmental delays. This will help you understand him better and ease your fears. Fourth house Jupiter in Aquarius rules the moon sign, you will feel better with support from other mothers and need to feel connected to a community in order to be able to deal with this in the best way possible.

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posted April 08, 2013 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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He should start school soon where the staff will help him with development. Even if he doesn't talk, he can still communicate, please do not worry. What is right for him is the most important thing, especially in childhood. His school will help counsel you on how to communicate with him, I am sure. They can be a marvelous resource in this, so can doctors and medical staff. Have you consulted them? They can be very supportive, so can connecting with other people who have children experiencing the same things in life.


Hi Starlight,

The school district is a BIG part of the problem. They have written him off and tell me that he has cognitive impairments. I was forced to pull him out of the preschool program and home school him, instead. He now gets private therapy, through our insurance company, to help him with speech therapy and occupational therapy.

I do network with other parents and it helps some, but it also gets discouraging after a while, since his progress is so slow compared to those of other children (even though I know that every child is different and has different strengths and weaknesses and their own time lines).

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posted April 08, 2013 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SilkySoft:
Hi Starlight,

The school district is a BIG part of the problem. They have written him off and tell me that he has cognitive impairments. I was forced to pull him out of the preschool program and home school him, instead. He now gets private therapy, through our insurance company, to help him with speech therapy and occupational therapy.

I do network with other parents and it helps some, but it also gets discouraging after a while, since his progress is so slow compared to those of other children (even though I know that every child is different and has different strengths and weaknesses and their own time lines).


Just give it time, and don't give up on support options. This is a tough situation to be in. Look for ways to connect with mothers who have children much like your son, that are pretty much on the same level and see how they deal with the highs and lows.

Right now he's pre school, so are you planning on working on verbal communication with a therapist, then entering him in school? What are your long term plans and goals?

Verbal communication could be possible but progress might be slow. He has a Saturn trine and Uranus is in good aspect to Mercury. This is energy that supports Mercury but Saturn demands much effort, hard work, and brings results at a slow pace. Saturn promises if you keep at something long enough, you will be rewarded.

Just watch the square from Sun to Saturn because this indicates it can be too much for him from time to time. Recognize when he is overwhelmed. Plus, his moon is opposite his Gemini sun which reinforces the idea he can become overwhelmed and that's not good.

The t square indicates he can become quite overwhelmed and frustrated.

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posted April 08, 2013 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SilkySoft     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Starlight,

Yes, we are working on verbal communication now, along with augmentative communication such as sign language and picture exchange. Since he is not yet 4, he has a good 2.5 years to go before mandatory schooling starts. Even so, I plan to homeschool him, eventually, as the district has already decided that he will never amount to anything.

There is a good reason why I pulled him out of SDC. He would cry whenever I went to drop him off and seemed so zoned out and withdrawn when I went to pick him up in the afternoons. You are spot on in one of your earlier posts - I want to give him a happy childhood. Just because he does not talk, does not mean that he has no emotions or feelings or is a zombie. When he is with me, he is a happy child, always laughing, always a joy to be around. I long to have a conversation with him, I am sure he would surprise me by telling me what actually goes on in his little head.

He is a lot better now than he was a year earlier, so I wouldn't be exactly accurate saying his progress is slow. But I want to talk to him.

The current agency makes everything fun and follows his lead, so he does seem happier here. He also gets lots of play breaks during the session to keep it as exciting for him as possible. So far, he seems to engage some of the time, although not a lot.

Could you tell me more about his Saturn - Sun tight square ? When you say he becomes frustrated easily, do you mean with other people or with himself or with communication, in general ?

I know of a couple of children who spoke at 8 and they are doing well now. I am willing to give it my all and then some, I just want to know that he will eventually verbally communicate !!!!!!

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posted April 08, 2013 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am glad he is happier with you, Silky Soft and hope he continues to progress and you both can reach the goals you set.

The Venus/Mars conjunction on the descendant in Taurus indicates that he is happy, however, Venus is critical and it is just approaching the seventh house from house 6 which is a little like the twelfth house effect. It means Venus' full energy will be a bit harder to access and there might be times, for whatever reason, he does not feel loved by others and may be unhappy, like how you felt he was when you picked him up from school.

Saturn is in Virgo/house eleven and forms the t square we already discussed. Also, an asteroid that has to do with early childhood, Ceres, is close to Saturn and configured in the square with the moon. It just means you and he have experienced frustration and since he is quite young, Ceres suggests what we are discussing right now, you are concerned he will not be able to communicate his ideas and feelings to the world, leaving him unable to fully express himself with words (what the sun in Gemini represents.)

Saturn in Virgo can be a critic, also eleventh house is the one concerned with society in general. It explains your frustration with the school district. You do not feel they meet his early education needs and he is miserable there (Gemini sun opposite Sagittarius moon.) You are an optimistic mom with high hopes for him but at times, you feel isolated and hopeless, this is what the moon suggests since it is mostly unaspected except for the opposition with the sun and square to Saturn (eleventh house rules friends and sense of community. Eleventh house squares can cause one to feel as if they are not receiving what they need from their community.)

The second house/eighth house opposition of sun and moon just means you are hoping for some kind of transformation in him, so he can communicate and live independently. Eighth house is one involving transformation and with people with problems that must be overcome, there are often trines from planets in house twelve to ones in house eight which also indicates this process of transformation and overcoming, even though he doesn't have these particular placements, it's the same idea of the eighth house involving a transformation of some kind.

The key is to not become frustrated with the progress and have faith in what he can do, keeping him smiling and laughing a lot. That is the most important therapy of all for him and it sounds like you already discovered it.

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