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gen75
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posted June 05, 2013 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Pisces man has a lot of struggles in his head because of the mother of his child who manipulates and guilts him and he even believes she tried to trap him with getting pregnant. He is a really good dad and wants to do the best for his daughter. I have known him for a long time but have only become intimate with him in this last year. Our agreement was FWB's which I was and am still okay with because I understand his situation and I have never pressured or asked for more. He used to share a lot with me but not so much lately and I have never given advice or my opinion, I just listen. Our play time, as he calls it, is amazingly good, its a spiritual experience and better than any I have ever had. We have good conversations and he makes me laugh and he always looks in my eyes. He even keeps track of my cycle, better than I do. Because of the struggles in his head, he frequently needs to take breaks from our play time and when he does, he always worries about me being upset with him. The breaks dont usually last long especially if i went out of town or out with friends, he gets jealous and frequently asks if I got lucky. I dont understand why our play time is an issue for him especially since he is not in a realtionship with the mother of his child but he feels like he has to be there for her even if she is a pain in the ass. I always give him his space when he needs it, I am a Cancer so I understand this need. He is my first Pisces and I know they are very emotional, he is worse than me haha. Its like he is the woman in this relationship. When we have a break, he still keeps in touch and we will chat about day to day stuff or our favorite tv shows. I know he cares about me because he is very concerned about my feelings. We have a really good connection physically and emotionally but I want to know if he keeps coming back to me because he has feelings for me? Does he get jealous because he has feelings? Or is this typical Pisces behavior?

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charlie
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posted June 05, 2013 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah the Pisces-Cancer duo. Been there MANY times

They care, don't they?! About everything and everyone...

May I ask his age? In MY experience you have to deduct about 10 years from a Pisces man's real age to get their mental age...(I did say MY experience...)

If he is under pressure from his baby-mama that will be a very hard thing for him to deal with as he loves his child very much and might let himself be manipulated by the mother.

Hmmmm....The Pisces/Cancer duo is indeed very spiritual and esoteric but can turn into a mother/son ordeal real quickly I have noticed...

He probably gets jealous because he has feelings and he keeps coming back to you because you let him.

What do you want out of this?? Just a FWB? They normally run their course...

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posted June 05, 2013 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ah the Pisces-Cancer duo. Been there MANY times

They care, don't they?! About everything and everyone...

May I ask his age? In MY experience you have to deduct about 10 years from a Pisces man's real age to get their mental age...(I did say MY experience...)

If he is under pressure from his baby-mama that will be a very hard thing for him to deal with as he loves his child very much and might let himself be manipulated by the mother.

Hmmmm....The Pisces/Cancer duo is indeed very spiritual and esoteric but can turn into a mother/son ordeal real quickly I have noticed...

He probably gets jealous because he has feelings and he keeps coming back to you because you let him.

What do you want out of this?? Just a FWB? They normally run their course...


He is 43 and I am 38.

I am okay with us being FWB if that is all it will be. It would be nice if we could explore this relationship more and see where it goes but I understand his situation and how much he loves his daughter.

Last week he vented because he was so exhausted from the baby mama always blaming him for everything and always playing the victim. He said he is a big boy that needs to make a big boy decision.. haha. I can see his pain and struggle in his eyes. And yes I do let him come back because I enjoy the play time very much as does he. And the play time is usually all about me, so how can i say no? haha

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posted June 05, 2013 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happyaskings     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let him stay gone...trust me you will be better off. Of course he's jealous, men are territorial. He probably does even care for you but it sounds like you'd like a little more from this and the second you start hinting at an actual relationship he's going to step wayyyyy back. Speaking from experience FWBs does. not. work.

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posted June 05, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps you should take his own words: PLAYTIME just for what they are. Men tend to mean what they say if we read between the lines sometimes....he wants to play and then he wants to moan and then he will keep on doing it until you no longer let him.

Personally, I'd take a permanent break.

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posted June 05, 2013 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by happyaskings:
Let him stay gone...trust me you will be better off. Of course he's jealous, men are territorial. He probably does even care for you but it sounds like you'd like a little more from this and the second you start hinting at an actual relationship he's going to step wayyyyy back. Speaking from experience FWBs does. not. work.

I have never hinted at a relationship nor will I. I follow his lead and when this ends, I will be okay. We have had many breaks because of his issues and I know one day the break will be permanent if we do not move into something more serious. I think he and could have something great, but I am not goind to add to the pressure he already puts on himself.

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posted June 05, 2013 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by gen75:
I have never hinted at a relationship nor will I. I follow his lead and when this ends, I will be okay. We have had many breaks because of his issues and I know one day the break will be permanent if we do not move into something more serious. I think he and could have something great, but I am not goind to add to the pressure he already puts on himself.

"It would be nice if we could explore this relationship more and see where it goes"

What does "more" mean?

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posted June 05, 2013 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
Perhaps you should take his own words: PLAYTIME just for what they are. Men tend to mean what they say if we read between the lines sometimes....he wants to play and then he wants to moan and then he will keep on doing it until you no longer let him.

Personally, I'd take a permanent break.


Hmmm well I never read between the lines of play time.. I do read between the lines when he says he loves being with me, or loves this and loves that he uses the love word a lot.

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posted June 05, 2013 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
"It would be nice if we could explore this relationship more and see where it goes"

What does "more" mean?


More means I wish he could let go of the issues and be open to letting us run our course without that being an issue. I never expected to feel this way about him, when we entered into this we were hardly friends and he wasn't somebody I saw myself dating but that changed quickly because he shared so much with me. Of course I was going to get emotionally attached when he poured his heart out to me and even cried a couple of times.

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posted June 05, 2013 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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More means I wish he could let go of the issues and be open to letting us run our course without that being an issue. I never expected to feel this way about him, when we entered into this we were hardly friends and he wasn't somebody I saw myself dating but that changed quickly because he shared so much with me. Of course I was going to get emotionally attached when he poured his heart out to me and even cried a couple of times.

I have tremendous connection with Pisces men (and Scorpio Moons but that's another topic) to the point where it's almost "otherworldly". Especially when they give you their time...however, personally, I feel they are a sign to teach and learn from as ALL my dealings with them have proven. It's been fun, hard, karmic, sad, fantastic but they all had to end and some sooner than others. There may or may not be a connection there that might be interpreted as "he knows me better than anyone else" but Pisces tend to just KNOW people in general.

If I were you, which I am not, I would keep a safe distance to him and see how it progresses.


ps. Am I the ONLY person that thinks Cancer women go fabulously with Aries men??? Just tossed it out there

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posted June 05, 2013 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AriesKat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one here can answer that question for you...and if you didnt want 'more" you wouldnt be making a thread about ya FWB....he doesnt sound stable..Also Pisces men are good at emotional manipulation...someone somewhere is always feeling sorry for them.

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posted June 05, 2013 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It’s just how Pisces are. They need breaks. They absorb everyone’s energy and it drains them. If you really want a relationship with him, I think you should initiate things, tell him directly that you want a relationship with him. You being a cardinal sign would be a better initiator than him. From what you’ve said, I think he loves you. So make your intentions clear, if he swims away then just remember that there are plenty of fish in the sea.

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posted June 06, 2013 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jkitty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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No one here can answer that question for you...and if you didnt want 'more" you wouldnt be making a thread about ya FWB....he doesnt sound stable..Also Pisces men are good at emotional manipulation...someone somewhere is always feeling sorry for them.

Men give love to get sex; women give sex to get love. He's getting what he wants out of it. Are you? No, I didn't think so. As AriesKat stated, you wouldn't be making a thread about this if you were.

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posted June 06, 2013 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by charlie:
I have tremendous connection with Pisces men (and Scorpio Moons but that's another topic) to the point where it's almost "otherworldly". Especially when they give you their time...however, personally, I feel they are a sign to teach and learn from as ALL my dealings with them have proven. It's been fun, hard, karmic, sad, fantastic but they all had to end and some sooner than others. There may or may not be a connection there that might be interpreted as "he knows me better than anyone else" but Pisces tend to just KNOW people in general.

If I were you, which I am not, I would keep a safe distance to him and see how it progresses.


ps. Am I the ONLY person that thinks Cancer women go fabulously with Aries men??? Just tossed it out there


I have never dated an Aries man, I have dated several Scorpios and have vowed to stay away from them.. This guy is my first Pisces and he is an odd one, I think if I date a Pisces again it will be with one that doesnt have issues like this one.

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posted June 06, 2013 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Men give love to get sex; women give sex to get love. He's getting what he wants out of it. Are you? No, I didn't think so. As AriesKat stated, you wouldn't be making a thread about this if you were.


Well I am old enough and had enough experience to know that I am not going to get love from sex. What I want is more sex without him freaking out about it. It is truly out of this world amazing for both of us but he has guilt for whatever reason and we dont get together as often as we used to. I just wish we could do what we do without him feeling bad afterwards. He is not in a realtionship with the mother so he isnt cheating and I know how unhappy he is with that situation so why not come and play with me more often and have some fun.

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posted June 06, 2013 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gen75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
It’s just how Pisces are. They need breaks. They absorb everyone’s energy and it drains them. If you really want a relationship with him, I think you should initiate things, tell him directly that you want a relationship with him. You being a cardinal sign would be a better initiator than him. From what you’ve said, I think he loves you. So make your intentions clear, if he swims away then just remember that there are plenty of fish in the sea.

He is exhausted and has told me so in the last few weeks. I have been very good about giving him his breaks and not questioning him about it, I just go with the flow but he is always very concerned that I am upset with him. I go on with my life and he sees it on FB and has gotten jealous many times.

I just wish we could have our time together without him getting weird about it after. our time together is always nice, our conversations are good, we laugh, he plays the guitar for me and we really enjoy each others company.

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