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LuvinU
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posted October 14, 2009 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuvinU     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thought you all might find this interesting. Hang in there everybody - we'll all get through this. Anyway, I got this from an 2006 article at http://www.yogachicago.com/index.html and thought someone at linda-land might like this.

Reincarnation and Your Ascendant
In the last issue, Kriyananda continued his discussion of rebirth and reincarnation and how they relate to spiritual evolution. He explained that the astrological sign (one of the 12 constellations of the zodiac) that appears on the horizon at the time of our birth reveals our “horizon” of awareness and our latent spiritual unfoldment. This sign is called the rising sign, or ascendant.

In this issue, Kriyananda outlines the first six ascendants and the accompanying lessons to be learned in this lifetime for those born with those ascendants. (The last six ascendants will be explained in the next issue.) As we master the lessons, we raise our state of consciousness and achieve what Kriyananda calls our “ascension.”

You can determine your ascendant if you know your time of birth and the order of the signs of the zodiac. (Okay, here they are: Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Saggitarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces.) Briefly, the ascendant sign at dawn is generally the same as the sun sign, and it changes every two hours, moving to the next sign. During the earth’s full rotation every 24 hours, each of the 12 signs will appear on the horizon for two hours.

Here’s an example. Say you were born during the time of Scorpio (October 23-November 22) at sunrise. If your parents lived on Lake Michigan and your mother looked East out over the lake at the moment of your birth, she would see the constellation Scorpio. Hence, Scorpio would be your rising sign. (However, the sky is becoming light at dawn, so it really would not be visible.) If you were born two hours later, the earth will have rotated 30 degrees so that Sagittarius would then be on the horizon, and your ascendant would be Sagittarius. Likewise, if you were born two hours before dawn, the ascendant would be Libra, the previous sign, and so on. Of course, daylight savings time also needs to be factored in. Similarly, if you are an Aries born at dawn, your rising sign would probably be Aries, and you can calculate from there.

You can also find your ascendant on various astrology Internet sites, but if your birth time is on the edge of the two-hour period, it could be one sign off. It’s best to consult a professional astrologer to be certain.

Following are Kriyananda’s insights regarding your ascendant to help further your path to enlightenment:

Aries Ascendant
Aries ascendants are symbolical of a new beginning. When their ascension manifests, it manifests very quickly and is best achieved through initiative and courage.
If you have an Aries ascendant, you have just reached a new level of evolution. Having mastered one set of life lessons, you are ready for a new and more difficult challenge. Because this level of evolution is new, you are by nature more insecure and thus seek, to a greater or lesser degree, to control others and events around you.
After a series of lifetimes doing what was important to others, you now seek to balance this out by returning to work at what is important to you. In past lives, people leaned heavily upon you; thus, you lost your personal identity and may find it difficult to re-establish it in this incarnation. The danger here is that you may feel you are primarily a sexual being. You have gained good career karma from your past actions, and you can have excellent business success if you do not get sidetracked because of your attitude and actions regarding sex.
The vital factor to be realized is that in this incarnation you need to start at the beginning in self-development. The key lesson for you to understand is that love relationships are formed based on love and affection, not upon name or fame.

Taurus ascendant
Your ascension will be achieved slowly, but surely, through quietness and closeness to nature because you have an innate attunement to the rhythms of nature. You are your memory track; thus, your greatest treasure is remaining in contact with all parts of your being. People with Taurus ascendants are souls who often reincarnate to help humanity deal with their financial imbalances.
From past-life experiences, you have acquired greater practical knowledge than most souls; however, you might be slow to use this wisdom because often you are a late bloomer. In the past incarnations, you have learned survival skills in dealing with life; therefore, just below your conscious mind is a wealth of wisdom. Almost all people with Taurus ascendants have a soothing aura, which helps other souls feel stable and secure.
In past lives you have proven yourself to yourself and, therefore, do not need to prove yourself to others. Some incarnation lessons to be learned are to overcome “slowness” and perchance possessiveness. Your key lesson is to be sure that your head rules your heart, not the other way around.

Gemini ascendant
Gemini ascendant ascension is achieved fastest through learning to concentrate, which will stabilize your fluctuating surface mind states. Many souls with Gemini ascendants reincarnate after leading lives of brilliance and fame. In this incarnation, you take refuge in using your mercurial gifts in quiet, mental games of one-upmanship because you do not really trust people.
The famous dual nature associated with Gemini may simply be an identity shift to a past personality of which you find it hard to let go.
Your best nature is revealed when you work with others in a hands-on way. You establish a bond, you become absorbed in a physical task and your mind can then truly relax.
Your key incarnation lessons are to overcome your nervous energy and then move off your surface mind and stop analyzing everything to death.

Cancer ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through transcending your mind’s emotions. Living on or near water, which produces a womb-like environment, will speed up your ascension.
You have reincarnated for special and personal reasons, the most important of which is your need to go places in order to meet others with whom you had vital links in past incarnations. The people you meet in this incarnation are not new relationships, but old ones from past lives. Every relationship will pick up from where it left off in a past life.
Those you deal with in business and marriages are, most likely, former family members. In short, you are here in this incarnation to resolve unfinished business with them. Of course, the business to be resolved is with you and your attitude--your mind states. If a relationship was difficult in the past, then the task for this incarnation is to improve that relationship. To improve relationships, you need to improve your attitude. In short, you are the problem, and only you can solve it.
You tend to live vicariously with the attitude that you know better than everyone and have come to save the world (of people around you). Your lesson is to let go of this “mother” attitude and learn to appreciate and accept other people for who and what they are, rather than accepting them only through their role in your life, i.e., they are in your life so you can tell them how they should live. If you let go of this attitude, the pain will end, your relationships will improve, bringing peace and happiness into your mind, and you will be able to move on with your spiritual evolution.
Remember, it begins with you correcting your mind-- not by correcting their lives. However, your mind does not really want to change; it wants to save people, which means insisting they do it your way. The key lesson for you is to become aware that almost all of the sensitive issues between you and others have been caused by primordial, psychic wounds from the past.
You have an affinity to small children, as they have not yet entered into your battlefield. They have special wisdom to give you. If you can hear it, it will be a blessing in the years to come. Their wisdom will save you (and others), a great deal of pain and suffering. Perchance you should understand more deeply that “out of the mouths of babes” are words of wisdom just for you.

Leo ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through love and the ability to fully express your being. Today, those incarnating with a Leo ascendant have reincarnated from the ancient Atlantean race, which was the prevailing culture that existed around 12,000 years ago.
The Leo ascendant brings the realization that every being contains immeasurable untapped abilities. Your task is to inspire all to manifest their divine potentiality, bringing to human consciousness the essence of the forthcoming Age of Aquarius (in about 400 earth years). Your task is to set the evolutionary standard for this new age.
You most likely got into trouble because your underdeveloped maturity caused you to use your mind powers for self-aggrandizement. Therefore, in this incarnation, the lesson you need to master is to become more mature, which is to say using your personality and “powers” to benefit others and to walk the spiritual path. Do not allow your position to cause you to forget that the law of karma also applies to kings, rulers and Atlanteans.

Virgo ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through self-discipline and positive actions. A good diet and positive thoughts are essential.
Wherever you were in your past lives--perchance a census taker for Rome--you developed a keen sense for details. In the past, you suffered personal physical deprivation, and you have carried it over into this lifetime as a personal psychological deprivation.
The key lesson to be learned in this incarnation is to overcome your basic states of pessimism and disapproval left over from a past life when you were the “boss” telling everyone how to do their job, i.e., the way you wanted it done, not the correct way. Things went wrong, and you worried a great deal. Worrying became a mind habit, and in this incarnation your mind has a strong tendency to worry--most likely regarding all things trivial. In this lifetime, you need to learn to be a happy worker.
The key lesson is to learn that there is nothing to be fearful about. Forget your ego-self, employ your talent and skills, and make this world a better place. Then your “hurts” from the past will be healed.
The law of karma says that you get to try as many times as needed until you get it right. This will frighten almost everyone; however, for a perfectionist like you, this is a spiritual comfort.

Libra ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through establishing deeper, inner harmony with others, but not by simply agreeing with everyone. Moderation and detachment are the essential qualities for this process to work for you.
This is a difficult ascendant to read because you have had so many different vocations and experiences in your past lives that there is no clear thread to follow. In a sense, you are a “jack of all trades and a master of none.” It is as if you were swept away by air currents and have not followed any self-awareness course. You are a general, at heart. How much this trait will exhibit itself and where it will manifest itself--on a battlefield or in the bedroom--depends upon other karmic forces.
All Libra ascendant people have come from a highly developed culture in their past lives. Here is where a problem arises. Highly developed cultures have highly developed social mores--rules, rules and more rules--which you disliked and physically revolted against. In this incarnation, you are mentally revolting against the rules of your culture. The focus in this lifetime is on your love life—--be it lover or family--in which they try to “run your life” and you rule theirs. The platinum rule for you is to love others far, far more than you love yourself.

Scorpio ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through focus and singleness of purpose, re-channeling your passions and conquering your demons. The key lesson for you to learn is to transmute your scorpion nature into an eagle nature.
Very often, with a Scorpio ascendant, you have returned with your sun in the same degree as the ascendant. Because your mind is fixed, it is harder to learn the lessons you need to learn at the depth of your being.
Furthermore, you had a mystical experience near the time of your physical death. You also had profound experiences, which you have forgotten except for a vague memory of something greater and more powerful than the earth life. These powerful experiences have left you with vital knowledge that continues to influence (haunt) you even into this incarnation.
Your goal for this incarnation is to master the principle of mind over matter. In so doing, you will begin to understand that real power emanates from deep within.

Sagittarius ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through travel, prayer and faith in yourself. In the past, you were from a highborn family but were physically restrained and restricted in some way. Most likely you were imprisoned for being a religious or political dissenter. In order to retain your sanity, you began to live in a vivid mental world. Consequently, you regard this incarnation as an emergence from the bonds of responsibility, thus you feel your striking mental world is the real world, but it’s not.
One of the lessons in this incarnation is to realize that the external world of other people is the real world; you need to listen to them more closely, even if they are wrong.
Another problem in this lifetime is you can become a bit overanxious about any professional or personal relationship that might cause you to feel that it will tie you down. This threat causes your internal logic to fail.
The lesson now is to use your ability to help humanity see life’s larger picture and to teach people to balance their constricted lives. You can easily do this because there are positive astral forces ready to assist you in any work you choose to perform.

Capricorn ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through self-discipline, moderation and generosity. You need warmth, more warmth and still more warmth. The great lesson to be learned in this incarnation is to completely overcome fear. You, like those souls who have Cancer ascendants, have primarily reincarnated to work off constrictive karma caused by your fearfulness (which others perceive as coldness), while not creating afresh the same type of karma as in your past lives.
There are certain people you need to meet in this incarnation so you can balance past karma with them. This may not be as easy as you think because the last lifetime was not the first time you “hurt” them. Almost 97% of the people you have met or will meet in this incarnation are from your past lives. You will be picking up the relationships where you left them.
Your family members, main business partners, co-workers and “friends” are all from the past—--and very likely former family members. Be detached--not indifferent—--and free yourself and them.
Again, 97% of Capricorns have incarnated into the same religion, nationality and country as in the past. Also, many have picked up their career from a past life so they can complete the goal set in the past—--success in a position of power. Capricorn ascendant is a symbol of social structure, thus your place in society is an important part of your ego’s need. Your lesson is to realize that compassion is more essential to spiritual unfoldment than is position or power.
Your problem is that in seeking to solve the present problems, you are using past life memory—--however, the solution does not lie within the memory of past experience. It will come from transcending the database of your mind and opening your heart to unselfish love and compassion. In general, your lesson is to learn to use your powers to help others, not to help you fulfill powerful ego dreams.

Aquarius ascendant
Your ascension is best achieved through the realization that you are just like the rest of humanity, only more egotistical and arrogant. Transcend your ego self.
You tend to fall and stay down because your ego awareness is still trying to tell others how they should think and live. Beware of any first step you take in any venture, no matter how small. People incarnating with Aquarius ascendants have brought into this incarnation a special magic. If the ego can get out of the way, this magic will be a magnificent blessing to all life forms.
The true mystical lesson to master is for you to reveal that humanity is the brother and sister of God--not slave and master. The first step is to change your ego self and stop trying to change others. See them as brothers or sisters and come down to their level of understanding—--or should I say, come up to their level of love. At this time, you have the responsibility to improve the world, but only after you improve yourself.
You are the product of many incarnations, thus you have an inborn understanding of human foibles--after all, you are a walking bag of foibles. Come down to earth and be more helpful. Have more patience with the earthbound beings and you will become free and truly able to lead.

Pisces ascendant
You can achieve your ascension more easily by going with your natural flow of intuition rather than flowing against it. Listen to your feelings rather than your intellect. Listen to your feelings rather than your emotions—--realizing that a feeling is not an emotion. Let go of vagueness and impracticality, and allow the life energy to flow though you.
In the past, you had attained great material success and social freedom but most likely had become disillusioned. In this incarnation, you still have the strong memory of being disillusioned and thus are still troubled and concerned over the past. The lesson you need to learn in this incarnation is to realize that the present is not the past. Become unglued from that past and be able to embrace this, your new incarnation. For you, this incarnation is directly related to unfinished emotional concerns with past business.
You spend too much time brooding over conditions that are really emotional habits from the past. The time spent in what seems to be brooding is actually your mind’s attempt to reconcile the emotional events of the past with the meaning of life itself.
Pursuit of meaning into the foggy areas of emotions can result in considerable confusion, especially for you who have not developed a strong faith in yourself. For those of you who are encouraged to follow your powerful intuition, life becomes a glowing fulfillment of all the possibilities that you worked for in past lives. Your task is to give meaning to that which is beyond form and to relate to the next major level of human evolution—--but only after you master this life’s attitude and viewpoint.
As I said before, listen to the inner voice of intuition, not to the mind’s emotions, and you will have prepared yourself to be of service to all life forms.
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Goswami Kriyananda is the founder and spiritual preceptor of The Temple of Kriya Yoga in Chicago and the author of several books and home study courses. (See Web site at www.yogakriya.org.) Please send your questions to Goswami Kriyananda, c/o The Temple of Kriya Yoga, 2414 N. Kedzie, Chicago, IL 60647.

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posted October 14, 2009 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love the Aqua Asc description! Finally an Asc reading I can identify with!
Thanks, LuvinU!

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posted October 14, 2009 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

which zodiac system does he use?
Sidereal or Tropical?

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posted October 14, 2009 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for milyi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The description of the capricorn rising is amazing, I loved it, especially this part :"Almost 97% of the people you have met or will meet in this incarnation are from your past lives. You will be picking up the relationships where you left them". I KNOW this.

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posted October 14, 2009 10:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Many souls with Gemini ascendants reincarnate after leading lives of brilliance and fame.

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posted October 14, 2009 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

what does Leo Ascendant have to do with Atlantis?

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posted October 14, 2009 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some people associate the age of Atlantis with the Leo-Aquarius-axis I think.

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posted October 14, 2009 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee, I picked a rough one.

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posted October 14, 2009 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
T u are very brave

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posted October 14, 2009 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha!

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posted October 14, 2009 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really like the one for Pisces, I think it's very true.

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posted October 14, 2009 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kriyananda is a true genius.
I had no clue about the Leo Ascendant link to Atlantis but the Capricorn Ascendant insight is excellent.
My wife and son are Capricorn Ascendants and there are clear past life links from their charts to mine.
And he has given one of the greatest descriptions about the Aries Ascendant I have ever read.
This list has to be memorized. Thanks so mmuch LuvinU, you really love us for posting this here.

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"Today, those incarnating with a Leo ascendant have reincarnated from the ancient Atlantean race, which was the prevailing culture that existed around 12,000 years ago."

I also feel myself close to Lemuria and the ancient Uyghur Empire.

Thank you, LovinU.

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here is another list on Reincarnation and Your Ascendant


Past Lives by Zodiac Sign
Explore your previous incarnations

by Simone Butler

Have you ever wondered about your former lives? Your Sun sign (and Moon sign, if you know it) provides intriguing clues to the past, which lives on in your subconscious mind. An Aries who's always sparring for a fight may once have braved the harsh deserts of the Middle East as a warring nomad. And where does Gemini get that agile mind? From lifetimes in ancient Greece spent learning many languages. A Cancer's life is all about family due to memories of rearing children in matriarchal Crete. Capricorns rise naturally to a responsible position because they were once military strategists in ancient China or Native American chiefs. Who were you in a previous lifetime?

Aries (March 21 - April 19)
In your heart, Aries, you're a warrior ... and always have been. Memories of glory on the battlefield still live on in your soul, which explains why you're so quick to take offense or fight for what you believe in. You may have been a tribal warrior in ancient Palestine, or fought as a ninja in Asian lands. Perhaps you honed your athletic skills as a runner in ancient Sparta, or used your brawn to defend your Macedonian king. Now your challenge is to utilize your fiery, impetuous nature to bring about peace instead of war.
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Taurus (April 20 - May 20)
A deep love of nature is imprinted in your soul, Taurus, from lives spent raising plants and animals in pastoral settings like Thailand or the South Seas. This explains your green thumb! And, you honed your love for beauty and art crafting objects such as woven tapestries and shoes, likely in Oriental cultures ... where your well-developed feminine sensibilities were highly regarded. In pre-Columbian America, you honored the Earth as your mother. In your pursuit of material things, remember that She is your true security.

Gemini (May 21 - June 20)
You've always been a restless soul, Gemini, even in past lives. You sought action and adventure in Europe in the Middle Ages, and may have even been among the nobility of France or England. Jousting tournaments or trade caravans to India or China were part of your world. Fleet of foot and tongue, you were often cast in the role of messenger or translator. Your thirst for knowledge and novelty has led to an overdeveloped mind, but now it's time to cultivate the heart.

Cancer (June 21 - July 22)
Your past lives have often revolved around family dramas, Cancer. Sometimes you play the role of dutiful mother, and other times you are the rebellious or dependent child. You probably lived in matriarchal, close-knit cultures such as those of early Egypt, in which the Great Mother was worshipped as all-powerful. Though you learned to be an excellent nurturer while raising many children or care-taking others, you may have failed to develop your individuality. Now you must seek to understand and nourish yourself.

Leo (July 23 - August 22)
Royalty runs in your blood, Leo. Those childhood daydreams of the courts of kings and queens in Europe or ancient Mesopotamia may have their roots in distant memories. Ever wonder why you're so comfortable being in the center of things? You've spent many lifetimes as an accomplished performer -- from Roman gladiator to celebrated Italian opera singer. Or perhaps you were a high-ranking Viking general. Your ego is well developed -- now you're learning to harness it to work for the good of the whole.

Virgo (August 23 - September 22)
Your uncanny ability to serve and heal others is not new to you on a soul level, Virgo. You were probably a monk or nun in medieval Europe, setting aside your personal concerns for a higher purpose. And your talent for separating the wheat from the chaff derives quite literally from lifetimes as an herbalist or farmer, perhaps in Celtic lands. While initiating young people in an Amazon rain forest tribe, you became a great teacher. Your challenge now is to shift from industrious doing to relaxed being ... and enjoy life!
http://www.tarot.com/articles/astrology/bysign/pastlives-bysign.php


Past Lives by Zodiac Sign: Continued

Libra (September 23 - October 22)
Picture yourself strolling the manicured gardens at the court of Louis the Fourteenth. Your refined sensibilities and love of beauty were developed long before this lifetime, Libra. You were likely among the great artists and poets of ancient India or classical Greece, and had your heyday in the Italian Renaissance. But your sense of justice was also sharpened by being a "have" in a "have-not" world. Now, your mandate is to help balance the scales.

Scorpio (October 23 - November 21)
Your soul has often journeyed through dark and dangerous realms, Scorpio, in its search for deeper meaning. You may have been a slave or concubine in ancient Persia, learning how to retain your dignity even while subject to another. Or, perhaps you were a medieval alchemist or astrologer, divining the secrets of the universe. You may have been among the culturally advanced Chinese, where you learned to perform what was required ... but also to suppress your feelings. Being upfront is your challenge in this life.

Sagittarius (November 22 - December 21)
In your quest for freedom, Sagittarius, you've been exploring the world for millennia. You may have crossed the country in a covered wagon or the ocean as a Spanish explorer. You didn't hesitate to invade and defeat the cultures you met to forge your new life. Perhaps you pursued a spiritual calling as a priest or evangelical missionary. Either way, you were often separated from your family and culture. You've become a budding planetary citizen ... now your task is to put down roots and blossom.

Capricorn (December 22 - January 19)
You've always been wiser than your years, Capricorn ... because you've spent lifetimes honing your skills and executive capabilities. You were probably among the natives of North America, where you developed a knack for living close to nature and being a leader among men. You're a natural builder and may have helped to construct pyramids in Egypt or Peru, where your spiritual interests were first piqued. Now you must learn to fuse the material and spiritual ... to create heaven here on earth.
Your Past Lives

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Aquarius (January 20 - February 18)
Your role as a dreamer and visionary dates back to prior lifetimes, Aquarius. According to psychic Edgar Cayce, your sign is associated with the prehistoric "space age" civilization of Atlantis, which sank beneath the waves due to misuse of technology. No wonder you're so attuned to computers, mathematics and symbolic systems like Astrology. In ancient Baghdad, you may have been the king's magician. Or more recently, you helped develop atomic energy. You're called to use your brilliance to serve mankind.

Pisces (February 19 - March 20)
You're an "old soul," Pisces -- this may well be the last of many lifetimes for you. Because you've long subjugated your ego to a higher cause -- perhaps as a healer or spiritual initiate -- the light of love and compassion shine strongly in you. You're well acquainted with sacrifice, perhaps literally as an Aztec offering to the land. You may also have subconscious memories as a follower of Jesus. You're accustomed to setting aside your personal concerns for the good of all ... just make sure your needs are also met.
http://www.tarot.com/articles/astrology/bysign/pastlives-bysign-p2.php

Raymond

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You're an "old soul," Pisces -- this may well be the last of many lifetimes for you.

Gosh, I hope so. Sigh. I'm tired.

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You may also have subconscious memories as a follower of Jesus.

Hmmmmmmm. Considering some aspects IQ discovered in another thread, that might make sense!

Good one, Raymond. I almost like those better.

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posted October 14, 2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuvinU     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yin - I liked the description for mine also! Initially, I wanted to find a site or anything with in-depth info on specific degrees of Ascendant. I have a 3rd decan Leo ascendant ( i.e. 1st decan 0-10 degrees, 2nd decan 10-20 degrees, 3rd decan 20-30 degrees). In any case - I want to move forward in my life - the present and future are just too exciting to put to the backburner for coulda, woulda, shouldas. The present and future will take care of that but it's nice to recognize what our spark went through! Astrology is great but there is so much information, it's highly possible to become so consumed with it that it becomes the focal point rather than a means to a beginning and end and much of life in between can be missed in the mix.

Glaucus - I have no idea which system he uses. As far as Atlantis - I get it. I don't know if anyone else with leo ascendant has every felt a connection (now I know songwriter does) to past life via dreams and such but I would not be surprised. There is that almost gross attraction to past events/people/things, have we met before moments, and I know this place somehow or even how similar and different a particular past life is to present day circumstances and relationships and sometimes feeling like being so far off from fitting in to today's 'standards' or feeling like today's society is so behind. I know, for some reason, that large sized robots were used in the past so maybe that is why Kriyananda might have mentioned Atlantis / maybe people with leo ascendants might have asked him about living somewhere that was lush and far from today's version of cavemen life - I don't know but either way - I know there was a technologically advanced society in the past, there was separatism and there were people who actually lived like royalty whereas people who lived down the ways were simple, highly intuitive individuals. All knew of one another, mingled with one another for certain matters but didn't need to be with one another. There was a certain amount of respect for one another and no-one's skill was more 'important' than the other. I don't get the sense that one (simple, royal, etc) wanted to be the other and all were just as content with that. I also get the feeling that I was one of the simple folks who didn't want to mingle with the royals because I was content with the simple life and wanted to stay that way forever - I didn't get to the point of realizing that even though I was part of the 'simple' clan, it wouldn't make me any less 'simple' if I mingled with the 'royals' every now and then. I didn't get that we could both enjoy one another's company. I actually took it as a unnecessary burden to mingle with them because I'd rather be hanging out with the rest of the 'simple' folk. There were so many forms of entertainment on both sides - it was amazing. The royals didn't have to help the simples get off the island and the simples didn't have to tell the royals that some type of mega size tsunami was going to come and wipe the island out. For some reason, I know this.

milyi - I'm glad you liked yours. I'll be trying to find more of these but if not - this website has a lot of information I could definitely work with.

amowls - well that settles that.

T - I wonder if you share this ascendant with Suze Orman. I think she is fabulous and love to hear how she became one of the most popular financial advisors of all time. She could have ran off with what she knew or just let it slip by but she didn't and she is helping others to get on track financially today. It was with the help of the support and trust of others that she got her idea off the ground. One day a waittress getting tips and now she is the one giving tips.

IQ - as much as you do here, I'm honored that something I posted is of interest to you. I've bookmarked http://www.yogachicago.com/kriyananda.shtml for sure. Do I like coming here when I can! I live in Jersey - as far as I know there isn't some sort of astrological library, convention, temple anywhere near here. Linda-land really has helped me keep my sanity. Love it!

songwriter - A fellow leo ascendant! You're welcome! It's clicking even more.

Glaucus - for some reason - these interpretations you posted feel highly possible after the experiences Kriyananda is talking about.

StarrofVenusGirl - I have a friend who is Pisces ascendant. They have done sooooooooooooooo much in their life - sometimes, it's almost as if they don't realize just how much they have accomplished, how many lives they have touched, how wonderful they are! I can't imagine how much more one person could actually accomplish in one lifetime but I'm glad they are here! They really are a good example of accomplishing the seemingly impossible.

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posted October 14, 2009 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well according to certain zodiacs,
I have:

Leo Ascendant in Sidereal Zodiac
Virgo Ascendant in Tropical Zodiac

also my Ascendant is in the actual Leo Constellation, and it's even conjunct theta Leo, Coxa (located on the back hip of the Lion)

what about people that aren't Leo Ascendant that believe having pastlives in Atlantis?


I am skeptical of using the Ascendant as a significator for pastlives, and more skeptical of using a zodiac sign for significator for specific civilization.
Of course, there is the issue of which zodiac to use. Not all astrologers use the tropical zodiac. Vedic Astrologers use the Sidereal Zodiac with the combination of nakshatras which are lunar mansions. Carl Fagan type astrologers use the Sidereal Zodiac.

also how come not all ascendants were associated with certain civilizations?


Raymond


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posted October 14, 2009 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am with Glaucus on this one.

Also, isn`t the 12th house said to be associated with your last incarnation on earth?

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posted October 14, 2009 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Geez, either way Aries rising isn't fun.

I'm either sexing people to death or stabbing them with swords.

I do not identify with my aries asc, I
never have. It's just not me. I am aggressive only in things that most every human would be aggressive in (protecting my children, family, friends) but I have never been super ambitious and driven.

I do have to admit that my past life memories are almost all concerning violent death and battles that I am participating in. So, eh, maybe right, who knows?

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I do indentify with both the descriptions of Libra.

i do tend to dislike conflicts so i pretty much agree with people when in fact i don´t most of the times ( i dont do this when in family or among friends..just casual people)

i always loved the renaissance time,all that evoqued the unique art and development of beauty of those times...and Louis...awww how i dreamt when i saw The Man in the Iron Masq....

yup...i pretty much believe in what i feel,not in what society says that i have to do,think or feel...im a rebell of thought.free spirit.

love life?it is my main focus,at this time everyone in LL knows that!hihihi

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posted October 14, 2009 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Also, isn`t the 12th house said to be associated with your last incarnation on earth?"

DD,

I am not sure

but

In Vedic Astrology, the 12th house is associated with moksha,liberation,enlightenment,detachment as well as loss and suffering. All of them seem to be connected

In Vedic Astrology, Ketu (South Lunar Node) is said to be significator for moksha,liberation,enlightenment

in Vedic Astrology, I have Ketu in 12th which I read is a potential placement for moksha(release from the cycle of death and rebirth),liberation,enlightenment but also much loss and suffering too.

from the materialistic standpoint,it can really suck


also in Vedic Astrology, 12th house is associated with long-distance travel or living abroad,sexual pleasure,confinement,hospitalization,expenses


of course,Vedic Astrologers look at not only the planets in 12th house but the ruler of the 12th house and its aspects

for example, I have Cancer 12th house. Therefore Moon is my 12th house ruler. It's conjunct my Mars (my yoga karaka because it rules my Aries 9th house which is a trikona and my Scorpio 4th house which is a kendra) in Aquarius in 7th house, aspected by 6th/7th house ruler Saturn in Taurus in 10th which also aspects Ketu in Cancer in 12th.


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posted October 14, 2009 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Glaucus,

yes, I know tht about Vedic astrology.

I was reading that 12th house is symbolic of the most recent past life in Blashke`s book, I think. I am not totally sure, but i think he mentioned it when he was discussing karma in relationships.

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posted October 14, 2009 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah

that's common for Western Astrologers to view the 12th house as being associated with pastlife karma. I don't how they ended up viewing the 12th house like that.

the 12th house has also been associated with fears,phobias,anxieties

it makes me think how fears,phobias,anxieties are thought to have originated in pastlives like what pastlife regression therapist Dr. Brian L. Weiss believes.

Raymond

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posted October 14, 2009 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Your key incarnation lessons are to overcome your nervous energy and then move off your surface mind and stop analyzing everything to death.

Let me analyze this...

It would be nice to get away from the nervous energy for awhile. It can be quite draining.

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posted October 16, 2009 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LuvinU,
I usually look at Asteroid Atlantis (1198) to find out if the native had significant Atlantean Past Lives.

I am an Atlantean btw but did the wrong things in that lifeline. [3 independent psychic verifications.] It is a lifeline that I cannot regress or recall no matter how much I try. Must have been a real bad a$$....


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