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Topic: How do you overcome the 12th house or control it?
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hannaramaa
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posted October 16, 2013 07:55 PM
  
Seems hard to do with it being our subconscious and all.IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 16, 2013 08:05 PM
Spiritual work, acceptance, understanding, not being judgmental, being passive. Passive people are stronger than you realize but it takes a spiritual person to understand the true nature of paradox. This is what the twelfth house is about. Anything hard to figure out. You can turn inward and develop great personal power by concentrating and becoming aware. I notice it's circumstance more than anything subconscious in synastry except for the fact twelfth house gets on my nerves. That's how I notice it most of all. People who's planets fall in my twelfth house get on my nerves more than those who don't and I get on theirs, too. I don't know how something like that can be controlled. Distance, maybe? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 16, 2013 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Spiritual work, acceptance, understanding, not being judgmental, being passive. Passive people are stronger than you realize but it takes a spiritual person to understand the true nature of paradox. This is what the twelfth house is about. Anything hard to figure out. You can turn inward and develop great personal power by concentrating and becoming aware.
It's SO HARD. I grew up with critical parents, and always criticized myself, and then it stemmed into criticizing other people. Astrologically, I'm here to learn how to follow my heart and not my head and to have more compassion (as if it was just a coincidence I ended up with a Gemini ASC and Virgo IC...) but it's so hard to be passive. I feel like I'm not being productive if I'm passive, or that I'm getting walked all over. I have Mars and Jupiter in the 12th house though. So 12th house is learning how to let go, and allow others to "work" instead of always participating? quote:
I notice it's circumstance more than anything subconscious in synastry except for the fact twelfth house gets on my nerves. That's how I notice it most of all. People who's planets fall in my twelfth house get on my nerves more than those who don't and I get on theirs, too. I don't know how something like that can be controlled. Distance, maybe?
When this happens do you find you can't verbalize why they get on your nerves? It's more of an intuitive itch than anything?
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StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 16, 2013 08:46 PM
I can definitely verbalize why they get on my nerves and this gets on theirs :/IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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From: Brooklyn, NY USA
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posted October 16, 2013 10:08 PM
I cannot be passive to save my lifeand then what do they mean by spiritual? I always see that word in relation to the 12th but what does it actually entail? IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 16, 2013 10:11 PM
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Originally posted by AriesKat:
I cannot be passive to save my lifeand then what do they mean by spiritual? I always see that word in relation to the 12th but what does it actually entail?
Spiritual is when you give it over to a higher power and rely on unseen forces to take care of it or it can be simply meditating. It just depends on your definition. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted October 16, 2013 10:44 PM
I'm like AriesKat - I'm compromising, but downright passive? It doesn't compute. I have Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus to Saturn aspects and even though they're squares (save for Moon trine) that's a lot of cardinal energy. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 16, 2013 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Spiritual work, acceptance, understanding, not being judgmental, being passive. Passive people are stronger than you realize but it takes a spiritual person to understand the true nature of paradox. This is what the twelfth house is about. Anything hard to figure out. You can turn inward and develop great personal power by concentrating and becoming aware. I notice it's circumstance more than anything subconscious in synastry except for the fact twelfth house gets on my nerves. That's how I notice it most of all. People who's planets fall in my twelfth house get on my nerves more than those who don't and I get on theirs, too. I don't know how something like that can be controlled. Distance, maybe?
What does turning it inwards mean SSS? I’ve read this so many times but I have not really been able to understand how to turn it inwards properly. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 17, 2013 12:21 AM
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What does turning it inwards mean SSS? I’ve read this so many times but I have not really been able to understand how to turn it inwards properly.
Just space out and go into your own mind. I do it all the time. It's relaxing and fun. You can also do a lot of thinking. I also like the period between wakefulness and sleep. Do you space out before you drift off to sleep? What do you think about at this time? Are you aware of what goes on in your mind or do you transition from being awake to asleep very quickly and aren't aware of any variations in the way you think? IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 17, 2013 02:42 AM
^ I space out all the time :B and yes it’s fun. I do space out before I drift off to sleep. I lucid dream pretty often, could it be related to this? I think about lot of things before I drift off to sleep, what do you do? just think about one thing or let your mind roam? IP: Logged |
Zander916
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From: I visit a lot of planets, but the Sun is my home.
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posted October 17, 2013 02:48 AM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ I space out all the time :B and yes it’s fun. I do space out before I drift off to sleep. I lucid dream pretty often, could it be related to this? I think about lot of things before I drift off to sleep, what do you do? just think about one thing or let your mind roam?
Yep! I do that! I play movies in my head before I go to sleep. IP: Logged |
PlutoFish
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From: In the 1st and 12th house.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 08:23 AM
Space out & Meditate - Live spiritualy------------------
The Draconic chart shows the true you. Know Thyself ♏ ♈ ☾ ♆ 1st House Aries Stellium IP: Logged |
DaniPepper87
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From: Curitiba, Brasil
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Spiritual is when you give it over to a higher power and rely on unseen forces to take care of it or it can be simply meditating. It just depends on your definition.
I can identify myself with this! 3 personal planets in 12th house! :O IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted October 17, 2013 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Zander916:
Yep! I do that! I play movies in my head before I go to sleep.
I used to be able to play movies in my head for hours when I was a kid, my attention span is too short now. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
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posted October 17, 2013 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by anonymidarkness:
^ I space out all the time :B and yes it’s fun. I do space out before I drift off to sleep. I lucid dream pretty often, could it be related to this? I think about lot of things before I drift off to sleep, what do you do? just think about one thing or let your mind roam?
I like to let my mind roam. You can do that or concentrate on something. It's great to exercise the mind. You can try visualization. Think of something you saw earlier in the day and try to remember everything about it, even the minute details or think about what something is like you have never experienced before. That's my personal favorite.
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anonymidarkness
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posted October 17, 2013 12:36 PM
^ I will try it. Thanks for the advice  .IP: Logged |
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