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Topic: Esoteric rulers!
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Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6237 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 04:17 PM
I might of made this thread before, or I was meaning to... I don't think I got the response I wanted. http://www.mermaid-uk.net/Esotericrulerships.htm Do you have planets domicile in their esoteric sign? Gemini's Esoteric ruler is Venus. I have Venus in Gemini. I suppose this makes some sense because communication is key to any relationship. I think venus in gemini looks for partners that really connect with, in the mean time we float around looking... We never settle for less! quote: In the life of a fully Soul centred being, Venus in this position gives one the understanding of the spiritual purpose behind any relationship. On the personality level, Venus in Gemini frequently indicates two diametrically opposed relationships simultaneously occurring in a person’s life. He is often caught in a difficulty duality. "How can I have both?" which one do I choose?" The Higher Mind will always choose both, and then blend them into a harmonious third, capable of increased creative activity and love. This is the secret of synthesis, and synthesis is the Soul’s process of growth.
I have Mercury (exoteric ruler) conjunct Venus (esoteric ruler) in Gemini. Not to mention with this idea my chart ruler is both Mercury and Venus! Earth in Sag quote: The potential of the Second Ray is at its highest in this combination. The Path on the Earth will be conditioned in the daily life by Jupiter, the exoteric planetary ruler of the sign. Its polarity is the Sun in Gemini, both influenced exclusively by Love/wisdom. Through the tremendous duality of Gemini-Sagittarius, the Soul centred individual firmly comes to know the Path he is to take on the Earth. The dharma of the life is to anchor oneself on the Path, and through such efforts, to communicate and share with others the focus of this struggle. It is interesting to note that the astrological centre of the universe is located in the sign of the Archer. When the Earth also finds itself in this sign it would appear that a special link is formed. When the Soul-centred individual anchors his feet firmly on the Path of Earth in Sagittarius he opens the Way for many others to follow. A further insight about the combination of energies may be revealed through the following passage from ~The Old Commentary~ - "When the dual forces of cosmic brothers (Gemini) becomes the energy of the one who rides towards the light (Sagittarius) then the fourth becomes the fifth. Humanity, the link, becomes the hierarchy, the bestower of all good. Then all the Sons of God rejoice"
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Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6237 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 04:36 PM
quote: SUN IN GEMINI The Light of Interplay This is a line of light beams, revealing that which opposes or the basic duality of manifestation, the relationship of spirit and form. It is the conscious light of that relationship. Harmonizing Will and Form through intelligently applied Love is very much the orientation of this combination of energies. This is pure Second Ray, and thus produces the activity of self-awareness through the blending of any opposing forces. The Twins speak about relating and the blending of diverse elements through the correct resolution of duality. Gemini and the Sun create a pure Second Ray energy field, one that permits the unification of Will and Form through intelligently applied Love. You will recall that Venus is the ruler of Gemini on the Soul level. Thus the Sun in Gemini brings in the harmonizing effects of this planet, considered by esoteric astrologers to be the most highly evolved in the solar system. Gemini changes, mutates, adjusts, and relates everything that is necessary for the evolution of the Soul. This communicative ability is at its strongest when the Sun in Gemini modulates the relationship between the Soul and the personality. It is through the harmonious blending of the energies of this essential polarity that true spiritual evolution takes place in life. Soul level Purpose To serve as a vehicle for communicating the Law of Right Human Relations. To be an agent for Venus on the subjective level of life and use the power of Mercury objectively. In this way, the Sun in Gemini serves as a vehicle for communicating the Law of Right Human Relationships: Peace on Earth and Goodwill to (Wo)Men.
Wow I really relate to this....
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted October 17, 2013 04:50 PM
Hmm. Are there any other links on this? (I had no idea lunar Virgos were so saintly, lol.) I can identify with a bit of the first part of the Virgo Moon description, as far as service for good...not too sure about my purity of intellect, but my instincts are pretty sharp. IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 3438 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 04:52 PM
quote: Gemini's Esoteric ruler is Venus.
I was comtemplating relating the planets to energies of elements and modes and my first impulse for Venus was air and mutable...hm... IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6237 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 04:53 PM
I actually do like Virgo moon. They are always so kind and helpful!IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6237 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 04:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by somethingexcellent: I was comtemplating relating the planets to energies of elements and modes and my first impulse for Venus was air and mutable...hm...
You have a point and according to esoteric astrology Libra's esoteric ruler is Uranus which is ruled by another air sign Aquarius! IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6237 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 05:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Violets: Hmm. Are there any other links on this?
http://members.citynet.net/worldwonders/astrologyharvest/virgo.htm here is some esoteric info on virgo.
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Violets Knowflake Posts: 903 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted October 17, 2013 05:08 PM
Very cool, thanks! IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 1332 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 08:45 PM
I have: -Vulcan in the 2nd House. (Taurus's Natural House) -Mars in Scorpio.Esoteric ruler of Cancer is Neptune. Neptune already exalts in Cancer. Esoteric ruler of Pisces is Pluto. Pluto already exalts in Pisces. Lilith ruling Capricorn? LMFAO. Only Saturn does. Mercury is the esoteric ruler of Aries? Aries is hasty and jumps to conclusions. Even if there is a link, it completely contradicts Mercury's function. Moon is the esoteric ruler of Virgo? Virgo is the most rational sign and is the most conscious of what it does. (Intellect) The Moon is your unconsciousness and emotions. (Instinct) Earth is the esoteric ruler of Sagittarius? Earth is stability, Sagittarius likes adventure and traveling; always moving and changing. They don't like being pined-down. Mars is the esoteric ruler of Scorpio. Mars is already Scorpio's co-ruler. Unless the esoteric rulers (esoteric planets) have different functions, a good amount of them do not make sense. Even then, it still wouldn't because they changed their functions to fit the sign they esoterically rule, so either way, it doesn't make too much sense. Do they even rule the sign's and planet's natural houses? I can see links in how they rule the signs, (most of them) but that's not sufficient enough to say they can rule them esoterically. I understand it's a different kind of way to look at Astrology, but if it contradicts Exoteric Astrology this much, than it cannot be applied, IMO. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6237 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 10:36 PM
How long have you been studying astrology 3-4 months lol... You lack experience on this subject, yet so quick to discredit something you've just skimmed through... . Lilith is suppose to be domicile and cap for your information. Look it up. LOL the element of earth stable but who told you our planet "earth" represents the actual element? You are too logical to a fault that you can not even discern the difference between a Planet and an element lmfao. Did you actually read what planet Earth represents in esoteric astrology? Did you even read what esoteric astrology is about because it is indeed different from exoteric astrology. It clearly mentioned that...
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anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 3268 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted October 17, 2013 10:54 PM
Interesting . I don’t have any planets domicile in their esoteric sign. Does the esoteric ruler come into play only after we evolve?IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect Knowflake Posts: 1332 From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets somehow. Registered: Sep 2013
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posted October 17, 2013 11:03 PM
The element earth is derived from the planet Earth, so ofc I would assume that. I told myself that the planet Earth is stability since the element is. Which is why I use Earth as Taurus's modern ruler.I have read some of it before that esoteric is the inner core of the planet (more spiritual and deeper meaning) and exoteric is the outer core. (more physical and obvious) Haven't went too much into detail with it. Yes you're right, I did skim through Esoteric Astrology since Exoteric Astrology makes a lot of sense to me, so I wasn't too interested in it. Maybe I will read it another time. Esoteric has more to do with the soul and inner energies, right? I don't even believe souls exist in the first place. Is it even related to Exoteric Astrology at all? If so, then it doesn't make sense with the ruler-ships since it shouldn't contradict it. If not, than that will mean the planets have completely different functions. Not "a planet gives a different inner function in esoteric than the outer function in exoteric" that seriously is a contradiction. How can a planet give two completely different functions? It shouldn't. How can Lilith be domicile in Capricorn if Saturn is it's only ruler? No, it can't. Then that means Mercury, Pallas, Chiron, Vulcan, Vesta and Ceres are all domicile in Virgo since I see characteristics of Virgo in all of them, but it's only ruled by Mercury, and also Vulcan (IMO) Just because it has the characteristics, (Lilith is opposite of Moon, so Capricorn) doesn't mean it's domicile in it. But rather "feels" at home, but not exactly home since it doesn't rule a sign, IMO. -Edit- And cool, I didn't know Lilith was exalted in Gemini, that's where mine is This is the same Lilith in "additional objects" on Astro.com, right? IP: Logged |