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posted October 22, 2013 04:37 PM            

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http://www.awakening-healing.com/A-HNewsLetters/2004/Astrology_Dragons_thru_Ages.htm

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posted October 22, 2013 05:53 PM            

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Just realized have a Moon-Neptune conjunction in Gemini (Soul) - never known this but i've always had it in me, haha

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posted October 22, 2013 07:39 PM            

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Another way to look at it is the Soul/Draconic chart is the Engine & Steering wheel, the Tropical is the seats and vehicle

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posted October 23, 2013 08:12 AM            

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Best book on the Draconic chart here -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Draconic-Chart-Pamela-Crane/dp/1903353122

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posted October 23, 2013 08:13 AM            

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The cover symbolizes the chart well, the part of you that lays dormant, your roots and trunk, the tropical is the branches, leaves & fruit

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posted October 23, 2013 08:28 AM            

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I'll use myself as an example to try and show it, this is me last year, it doesnt't look like me but you can see the Soul chart in me, almost more than the Tropical, i think i'm a good example of proving the Soul charts truth because of my chart type ...

Tell me you can't see the Arien Ram/Youth/ Gemini Moon-Neptune.

No one judge this as me haha, was after a party
http://www.imagebam.com/image/b3a501283433210

http://www.imagebam.com/image/bf5538283458562

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posted October 23, 2013 08:31 AM            

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You can see my Aries Ascendant with the Pluto/jupiter conjunction and the Aries Sun/Mercury 1st straight off - Look into my eyes and you will see my Gemini/Moon Neptune - my masculinity is provided by Capricorn. - But then look from a more "outside perspective" and you see the tropical, but the Draconic is still their

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posted October 23, 2013 08:31 AM            

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I really liked the book you mentioned.

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posted October 23, 2013 08:34 AM            

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this is my Draco chart.

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posted October 23, 2013 09:29 AM            

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The Tropical chart is also the chart you can use to hide the real you, in a film, when actors are showing only the physical sense of self, but hiding any inner motive, that is using the tropical chart and hiding the Soul/Draconic .. (Draconic Node) Your soul interaction

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posted October 23, 2013 10:02 AM            

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I think the best way i can think to put it, to be easily comprehended, is that the Soul/Draconic Chart is you operating a soul level & the tropical is you operating on a physical level.

(Soul/Draconic) - you inside the womb)
(Tropical/Natal) - How you adapted to the "cosmic reality" when you came out of the womb.

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posted October 23, 2013 11:43 AM            

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I think you view it similiar as I do.

I had a thread about the differnt zodiacs and the planes of existence a little while ago.

The tropical is the expression in the external, and the Draco is the light that is shining through, you could call it the soul-level. Well I DID call it soullevel.

However there ar interlocking areas, for example the tropical Moon, IC and of cuorse the nodal axis might come very close to bridging these two spheres.

How much deeper then must the DRaco Moon and Draco IC be!

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posted October 23, 2013 12:04 PM            

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The signs seem random and irrelevant to most of the charts I've checked. As for being the chart of the "soul" that's an opinion but have noticed you're sag stellium becomes an aries stellium.
You have you have plenty of planets in the first house that's why Aries seems significant to you.

Personally I've given little importance to zodiac signs and more importance to aspects anyways.
A pisces sun with a tight aspect to mars seems very arian and fiery.

Something interesting I have noticed is the aspects between natal and draconic planets.

Between charts
Natal Jupiter conjunct Draco Venus
Natal Mars conjunct Draco Neptune/Uranus
Natal Saturn conjunct Draco Pluto

I have to be biased because I have tight venus square jupiter, mars square uranus-neptune and Saturn square pluto in my natal chart

Another chart

Natal Saturn conjunct Draco Sun- hard ass!!!!
Natal sun conjunct Draco Neptune.
Natal Moon conjunct Draco Venus

Natal sun conjunct draco pluto- very intense.

The synastry between natal-draco seems interest too.

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posted October 23, 2013 12:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
The signs seem random and irrelevant to most of the charts I've checked. As for being the chart of the "soul" that's an opinion but have noticed you're sag stellium becomes an aries stellium.
You have you have plenty of planets in the first house that's why Aries seems significant to you.

Personally I've given little importance to zodiac signs and more importance to aspects anyways.
A pisces sun with a tight aspect to mars seems very arian and fiery.

Something interesting I have noticed is the aspects between natal and draconic planets.

Between charts
Natal Jupiter conjunct Draco Venus
Natal Mars conjunct Draco Neptune/Uranus
Natal Saturn conjunct Draco Pluto

I have to be biased because I have tight venus square jupiter, mars square uranus-neptune and Saturn square pluto in my natal chart

Another chart

Natal Saturn conjunct Draco Sun- hard ass!!!!
Natal sun conjunct Draco Neptune.
Natal Moon conjunct Draco Venus

Natal sun conjunct draco pluto- very intense.

The synastry between natal-draco seems interest too.

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What point are you trying to make? You avoided being straight forward and clear in your approach?
The point that it is a soul chart is very much real, i wouldn't have said it if i didn't have concrete trust in it, i will link you to a series on it if you like? I am a first houser but that doesn't do anything to my outfront straightforwardness or the fact i look, feel, speak and move like an Aries, i go into everything headfirst with my head tilted forward like a ram/youth dot on the Aries ascendant, and the Scorpio ascendant is second to that. the same with my gemini moon/neptune being far me closer to me than a Capricorn Moon, its easy to see this simply by how i type, the Draconic is your souls interaction or Nodes interaction and sense, however you want to look at it, and yeh i agree with that on the aspects, but in my, opinion, it is Planets, signs & then the aspects, and i wouldn't say what i said about the Draconic/Soul chart is so much an oppinion of an approach on the truth ..

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posted October 23, 2013 12:20 PM            

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It's fairly simple to see the Arien nature backed my a Gemini/Neptune moon just by reading that paragraph

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posted October 23, 2013 12:23 PM            

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I used myself as an example because i know it as truth .. i can feel, see and have adamant trust in the fact of da matter at hand

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posted October 23, 2013 12:32 PM            

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I can understand your doubt in what i'm saying obviously, but i wouldn't of posted it on a public forums if i hadn't already processed it through my Pluto/Mercury/Jupiter conjunction for a very long time and know that it is truth.
It is quite easy for me, being an Aries/1st house dominated person to see that it is true what i'm saying, wether you want to look at is at a Draconic chart, Node chart, soul chart, brain chart, spirit chart, higher self chart, they all come to the same outcome. Think about this to try and see it how i do, the tropical chart is how you adjusted to what was around when you come out of the womb, but the thing that brings about your "Node" while within the womb, is the Draconic chart..

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posted October 23, 2013 12:32 PM            

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Like as an example my Arien instincts are to now go to war with you on this i genuinely feel like i want to "butt heads" and my head is tilting forward while i am typing this - but my gemini/moon neptune keeps me happy and lively

Thats also my "Draconic selfs instincts" when i am with mates, i just enjoy doing stuff, i like pure competition.

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posted October 23, 2013 12:50 PM            

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Every single person i know and have spoke to about this would back me on it

^ That began with Aries sun and ended with a Gemini moon/neptune

Went from starting competition (every single person i know) to fading into the "curisotity killed the cat" gemini vibe (would back me on it)

Thats because my 2nd house (neck) Gemini moon/neptune (Capricorn) Holds Up my
my Arien 1st house (Scorpio/Sag) ..

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posted October 23, 2013 01:00 PM            

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You should also be able to see i come across very youthful Aries & gemini both being young signs - If i was a Capricorn Moon through & through, i would be coming at a complete different perception of elder responsibility.
I relate to Capricorn Moon, on a physical level, not a deep soul level, like i do with the Gemini moon, another point to make that you can see the gemini moon is that i';m being really chatty. and that i just used the word chatty ..
^ that went from Gemini moon back into my 1st house of being like " why the **** did i say the word chatty"

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posted October 23, 2013 01:02 PM            

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Can you not see i'm typing this all on an Arien straight forward level, never leaving the position of being "1st" or the "youngest/first out"

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posted October 23, 2013 01:03 PM            

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Looking at the Tropical is looking at the outside, the Draconic is looking within ..

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posted October 23, 2013 01:04 PM            

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Which is why its a hidden unknown of chart, because everyone can't go around knowing what everyone is like on the inside, the tropical doesn't show the true you, it shows more, the superficial you ..

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posted October 23, 2013 01:05 PM            

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& i'm still in competition

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