posted November 10, 2013 02:56 PM            

So this is what I can expect in terms of love and relationships for the next year

posted November 10, 2013 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:
Where do you get this chart?

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coincidentally.

I was looking up my daily horoscope for tomorrow on astro.com, and they wrote that Tr Venus will be conjunct my Venus exactly on 9:01 p.m. tomorrow.

If you want to do it, you have to pick the day Tr Venus will be exactly conjunct your natal Venus and pull up the chart for this.

posted November 10, 2013 03:35 PM            

Anyway, in my current Venus return (2013) I had a sun-mars-venus conjunction within 5 degrees.
The sun-mars conjunction (0 degrees) in aries, helped to finally cut off and end an unhealthy relationship, permanently.

posted November 10, 2013 03:55 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
I would assume houses aren't important? There are many possibilities to position the ASC to the exact Venus degree.

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Actually houses are VERY important. No there aren`t many possibilities.

BTW you do not position the ASC but the Sun to the exact Venus degree.

But you REALLY have to take the minutes and seconds into account.

For me that is:

Capricorn
6 degrees
7 minutes
33 seconds

This happens at 9:01 p.m. (actually it is 6 derees 7 minutes 32 seconds, but you can`t get it down to the exact second, just the nearest 2 or 3 ones, but it suffices in accuracy).

at 9:02 p.m. Venus is already at 6 degrees 7 minutes and 35 seconds. So the first time is the closest to birth Venus. That way you can figure out the time of your Venus return down to the exact minute.

posted November 10, 2013 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by dadoo:
My last one coincided with parting (geographically speaking) with someone I had developed feelings for. Possibly to never meet again.

Since then, I feel more lonely, but also more honest to myself.
It feels like I'm ready to stand more firmly for what I want, not accept cheap deals, and see relations what they are and not what I want them to be. Not quite there yet but doing better ^^

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Definitely a change that pertains to Venus-things, love, relationship-happiness.

posted November 10, 2013 04:13 PM            

It had ASC on 6.48 Scorpio, down to the minute of my draconic Saturn on 6.48.

Additionally it was conjunct Saturn anyway (on 10 Scorpio).

I can say I learned a LOT about myself, but at the same time it came with some sort of inhibition.

Venus was also conjunct SAturn/Neptune-mp by only 11 minutes.

In the worst case it can be the renouncing of love, there are more positive interpretations, too, but yes, it was very fitting. SEeing that it is the VENUS -return it was a dominant theme i suppose.

Saturn was also squaring Eros by one degree

however, there also was:

Pluto conjunct Juno on 9 Cap exact
Amor conjunct CHiron in Pisces and trine the ASC
Valentine in Pisces trine Psyche in Scorpio exact
(Val on my Draco Val exact)
Venus conjunct Aphrodite and both squared by Uranus

Well, the externalization (or physical expression) of attraction and love might have been denied, the feeling of it apparently was not. lol

Karma on 00 Libra back then showing how the time was ripe for a whole new chapter I think.

posted November 10, 2013 04:15 PM            

Venus conjunct Moon/Mercury by only 9 minutes of arc

I like that one better
Incidentally it combines the ruler of my 5th house (Venus) with the ruler of 8th house (Moon) and 7th house (Mercury).

posted November 10, 2013 04:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

I like that one better
Incidentally it combines the ruler of my 5th house (Venus) with the ruler of 8th house (Moon) and 7th house (Mercury).

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posted November 10, 2013 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:

How would you interpret houses in Venus return? 7th house for instance. And 5th house (I have Sun, Saturn, NN, Mercury there)

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Same as in Solar Returns or natals.

posted November 10, 2013 04:52 PM            

Also I checked his Venus return, and this is almost a little creepy, but we both have Moon-conjunct Chiron in Pisces, and both Moons are under half a degree from each other!

posted November 10, 2013 05:04 PM            

Asc ruler and H5 ruler (Asc = 0° Gemini) conj Venus (wide,3°). Venus received a separating sq from Uranus (over 2°).
H11 ruler 120° H8 ruler.
sNN conj nPsyche.

posted November 10, 2013 05:11 PM            

Extra intense? The third one counts? My SR is also venus (and pluto) conjunct venus (-1 degree in 7th house sr) and ascendant (my natal venus is conjunct ascendant).

posted November 10, 2013 05:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Pluto on DESC?
Sounds marvellous to me. But I thrive on intense transformations I guess. lol

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posted November 10, 2013 05:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:

Also I checked his Venus return, and this is almost a little creepy, but we both have Moon-conjunct Chiron in Pisces, and both Moons are under half a degree from each other!

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posted November 10, 2013 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Definitely a change that pertains to Venus-things, love, relationship-happiness.

How did your Venus-return look? Any kind of Venus-Saturn-tensions, or Venus on the Saturn/Neptune-mp?

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posted November 11, 2013 06:54 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Given that my tarot readings concerning 2014 have Empress and Ace of Cups (not the same reading) I figured this manual work is well justified.

Asc ruler and H5 ruler (Asc = 0° Gemini) conj Venus (wide,3°). Venus received a separating sq from Uranus (over 2°).
H11 ruler 120° H8 ruler.
sNN conj nPsyche.

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posted November 11, 2013 06:56 AM            

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Originally posted by ditisjenn:
What if you have three venus returns due to the retrograde?

Extra intense? The third one counts? My SR is also venus (and pluto) conjunct venus (-1 degree in 7th house sr) and ascendant (my natal venus is conjunct ascendant).

I am thinking pretty intense (lovelife) year coming up. Which is welcome

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The first ones might serve as preparations, but the last hit "counts" as far as I have read.

posted November 11, 2013 06:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:
Could it also mark a new beginning, what do you think?
Because Pluto means major changes and I had a painful break up about a month after my Venus return

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posted November 11, 2013 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Freesia:
Maybe you should try to express more emotional support to each other and not be too cold otherwise you can wound each other when some accrued hurts come onto surface level. This is my feeling about Moon&Chiron aspect, however I have not experienced conjunction, only trine.

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To me personally Chiron represents everything that is very "naked", vulnerable, your soul lying bare, which can lead to wounding or healing.
In Pisces, it seems to be extra sensitive. So yes I think you are right. not really in the sense that there could be coldness, but this extra-vulnerability can lead to feeling hurt easily, even if it was not intended. Or very open. We will see what it is going to be.