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FruityLlama
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posted March 27, 2014 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so what's the difference? How to differentiate between the idea of true love and (romantic) twin flames or romantic soulmates?

Only I was looking at some family charts and there is a conjunction in my sisters between valentine and venus. And someone else has the opposition. What would this indicate? True love in this lifetime?

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Heartsong11
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posted March 27, 2014 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey

I can't really answer your question but I've been looking into this twin flame soul mate thing for months (not long enough I guess) and from what I see there's a lot of different opinions out there for what constitutes twin flames and soul mates.

Me and my partner have a pattern with certain things. Double whammies of some conjunctions. He would fit more into the twin flame category in astrological terms than the person I actually consider my twin flame.

Although I don't dispute the research that's been done and results taken from them I do wonder is what defines a soul mate or twin flame relationship unique to each couple. I find it hard to believe that a concept as big as this could be categorised in any way.

I do imagine that a pattern between two charts would be a great indication of either soul mates or twin flames. Maybe more aspects and more of a pattern is what distinguishes between twin flames and soul mates.

I'm searching for a pattern but it's all a bit mind boggling when I'm new to this.
If I find an answer I'll let you know

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FruityLlama
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posted March 27, 2014 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats interesting and I agree its probs hard to categorise something as big as that Thanks again

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I'm so cappy
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posted March 27, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted March 27, 2014 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:


Can't you write good or something?!

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Liliya
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posted March 27, 2014 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hahahahaaa, my exact facial expression when I saw this topic. No offence, but what's the point in starting a new one, when there are 2 great Twinflames topics on top of the list atm People, who regularly post there, have an amazing knowledge due to experience and research, who I'm sure could answer your question.

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FruityLlama
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posted March 27, 2014 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasnt really asking about twin flames as such. I should have worded the title better. But those threads are so long, perhaps someone would have already asked and would have got narky with me for asking again and not reading through properly. I have read quite a bit, but I just, y'know. Im sorry if my question was dumb.

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posted March 27, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just bored of seeing these topics. It seems like some people get off to the possibility of being someone's "twinflame" (ugh) or soulmate and I find it silly. What really matters to me is whether it has the potential to work and how to make it last. That's what synastry is for to me. Besides, it's not like you can ever be 100% sure there's a "soul connection". And that would be irrelevant in the long run anyway. You gotta put a lot of effort to make a relationship work and keep the love alive.

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Liliya
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posted March 27, 2014 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Liliya     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You don't need to apologise! It's a free foruk after all. I may be impatient to read at all myself, too hehe.

Fingers crossed, som eone will be able to answer you question.

From my point of view, I don't really believe in Twinflames, and such. My fiance is my soulmate/twinflame/best friend/true love, but I don't need all these asteroids to show me that (even though we have mentioned connections)

If you feel the person is your true love, they are <3

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posted March 27, 2014 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
Hahahahaaa, my exact facial expression when I saw this topic. No offence, but what's the point in starting a new one, when there are 2 great Twinflames topics on top of the list atm People, who regularly post there, have an amazing knowledge due to experience and research, who I'm sure could answer your question.

As far as I was aware no one owns the topic twin flames and anyone is free to start a discussion.

I don't know about you but I'm on here to talk with like minded people and I'm new to this so it's hard to get involved in discussions when my knowledge in astrology is behind that of those you mentioned in the other two threads. And I have asked questions on there.

I don't know...when I see a topic on the thread list I'm not interested in I don't even click into it. I guess some people have more time on their hands than others.

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posted March 27, 2014 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Heartsong11:
Can't you write good or something?!


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posted March 27, 2014 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Liliya:
Hahahahaaa, my exact facial expression when I saw this topic. No offence, but what's the point in starting a new one, when there are 2 great Twinflames topics on top of the list atm People, who regularly post there, have an amazing knowledge due to experience and research, who I'm sure could answer your question.

Only that they are highly technical and/or about a million pages long. I think we want a basic explanation.

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posted March 27, 2014 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Heartsong11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Liliya:
Hahahahaaa, my exact facial expression when I saw this topic. No offence, but what's the point in starting a new one, when there are 2 great Twinflames topics on top of the list atm People, who regularly post there, have an amazing knowledge due to experience and research, who I'm sure could answer your question.

As far as I was aware no one owns the topic twin flames and anyone is free to start a discussion.

I don't know about you but I'm on here to talk with like minded people and I'm new to this so it's hard to get involved in discussions when my knowledge in astrology is behind that of those you mentioned in the other two threads. And I have asked questions on there.

I don't know...when I see a topic on the thread list I'm not interested in I don't even click into it. I guess some people have more time on their hands than others.

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posted March 27, 2014 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HiddenAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
It seems like some people get off to the possibility of being someone's "twinflame" (ugh) or soulmate and I find it silly.

I think your right about this. However, I'm not so easily inclined to dismiss others longing for a Twinflame/Soulmate type connection. In my experience such longing points to a missing or empty part a person in which he or she will try to find an other (through a social relationship, romantic or otherwise), who fills this missing/empty part of themselves in their path towards individuation. I think its is through this longing that catalyses the work/karma you have to go through in this lifetime, whether that entails having different types of karmic relationships, meeting your Soulmate(s), or in very rare cases meeting your Twinflame.

In astrological terms Saturn, the planet of karma/work, is exalted in Libra (ruled by Venus), the sign of relationships. The Sun, which is the Soul-identity is exalted in Aries (which ruled by Mars). Thus, in the zodiac itself we see a special dichotomy between individuation (Mars-Sun) and relationships (Venus-Saturn) which involves karma/work (Saturn) and the soul-identity (Sun).

But I guess it also depends on your natal chart whether significant relationships is part your programme (as Indigo would say) in this lifetime.


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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
What really matters to me is whether it has the potential to work and how to make it last. That's what synastry is for to me. Besides, it's not like you can ever be 100% sure there's a "soul connection". And that would be irrelevant in the long run anyway. You gotta put a lot of effort to make a relationship work and keep the love alive.

I agree with you 100%, I think there is a element of work in any relationship as I wrote above. I do think however that this trend about Twinflames is important in getting people to start looking into their charts, and combined charts (composites,davison,etc) to gain more awareness as to how astrology works, and to also gain knowledge as to what karma/work that needs to be accomplished in this lifetime.

I agree that astrology would be irrelevant in the long run for any type of relationship. But, astrology in this case, I think, would serve the practical purpose of pinpointing what type of karma/work needs to be completed through certain relationships.

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I'm so cappy
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posted March 27, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cool. I don't suscribe to karma though.

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posted March 27, 2014 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm just bored of seeing these topics. It seems like some people get off to the possibility of being someone's "twinflame" (ugh) or soulmate and I find it silly. What really matters to me is whether it has the potential to work and how to make it last. That's what synastry is for to me. Besides, it's not like you can ever be 100% sure there's a "soul connection". And that would be irrelevant in the long run anyway. You gotta put a lot of effort to make a relationship work and keep the love alive.


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posted March 27, 2014 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm just bored of seeing these topics.


Ummmmm... Ignore them?
Is that not an option for you?

Are you like Kero and just have to be seen?

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I'm so cappy
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posted March 27, 2014 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Naaah. I simply felt like a little rant

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FruityLlama
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posted March 27, 2014 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see what youre all saying, and im sorry for bringing up another thread on this, but I sort of wanted a basic summary-like what was said before-because ive been reading now, that even twin flames (if they exist) can come in the form of non romantic relationships. And so, I thought there must be an actual difference between these things and what do I look for. But astrllogy is all theoretical I suppose. We'll never have clear cut answers. And I guess when youre actually in a relationship of some sort, you wont care too much what planetary positions say I didnt want another debate, I just wanted a simplified thingy on it all really

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posted March 27, 2014 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FruityLlama     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Heartsong11:
As far as I was aware no one owns the topic twin flames and anyone is free to start a discussion.

I don't know about you but I'm on here to talk with like minded people and I'm new to this so it's hard to get involved in discussions when my knowledge in astrology is behind that of those you mentioned in the other two threads. And I have asked questions on there.

I don't know...when I see a topic on the thread list I'm not interested in I don't even click into it. I guess some people have more time on their hands than others.


I feel you, im in the same boat

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posted March 27, 2014 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marandana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Twinflames meaning goes to the soul connection no matter what it is, yes it could be a sibling, your best friend, male or female, it doesn't matter. 'cause it is all about the soul union.

I don't know, It seems to be the new trend, It's like the word "twinflame" is the new "soulmate". To me it has the same meaning, there's no big deal about it. To me every person that come in to your life brings you something to learn of, I believe everything happens for a reason. Still, I can't seem to find why someone could be attracted to another person but not to the others, I'm always thinking and wondering about it. The only answer I got is that there's something bigger than us, (perhahs...god) that make us fall for a specific person to teach us something in life.

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posted March 27, 2014 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HiddenAries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Cool. I don't suscribe to karma though.


But you do subscribe to work, I hope?

What I meant is that both terms karma and work are very similar to one another.

From Encyclopedia Britannica: "Karma meaning deed or action; in addition, it also has philosophical and technical meaning, denoting a person's deeds as determining his future lot."

Work is basically putting in effort in hopes of gaining something. You reap what you sow, literally. They are not the same though, which is why I used "karma/work". Karma is different in that it involves sacrifice, duty, past lives and such.

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posted March 28, 2014 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FruityLlama:
I see what youre all saying, and im sorry for bringing up another thread on this, but I sort of wanted a basic summary-like what was said before-because ive been reading now, that even twin flames (if they exist) can come in the form of non romantic relationships. And so, I thought there must be an actual difference between these things and what do I look for. But astrllogy is all theoretical I suppose. We'll never have clear cut answers. And I guess when youre actually in a relationship of some sort, you wont care too much what planetary positions say I didnt want another debate, I just wanted a simplified thingy on it all really


the truth is that there are so many different opinons/ beliefs/ perspctives on this subject, that the question is not easily answered; it mostly depends on what someon`s "definition" on twinflame is, and this can vary quite much from person to person.

So Iam not even trying to attempt an answer.


Venus-Valentine is potentially a beautiful aspect, which can bring a lot of affection or even creativity. But then again it is only one single aspect after all.

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posted March 28, 2014 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for olgatheo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by I'm so cappy:
I'm just bored of seeing these topics. It seems like some people get off to the possibility of being someone's "twinflame" (ugh) or soulmate and I find it silly. What really matters to me is whether it has the potential to work and how to make it last. That's what synastry is for to me. Besides, it's not like you can ever be 100% sure there's a "soul connection". And that would be irrelevant in the long run anyway. You gotta put a lot of effort to make a relationship work and keep the love alive.


True, must agree!

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