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Topic: Chiron and shame
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Dancing Maenad
Knowflake Posts: 446
From: The Harvest
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 30, 2014 02:57 AM
  
Chiron is usually associated with pain, but I was wondering.. Is the house Chiron is in something you're not too proud of? How about the aspects?I have Chiron in the 4th conj IC and I have always been ashamed of my family, my roots, even my country. It's conj Venus and I also felt like I am or should be ashamed of being attractive.
How about you?
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yellowelevator
Newflake Posts: 16
From: Michigan/Pluto
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 03:09 AM
I can't really say I'm ashamed of the predicaments or ailments that my Chiron placement gives off, just more-so upset that it happens so often. I have Chiron in my 3rd and I often feel verbally misunderstood by others and I feel a lot of the time people take what I say and turn it around into something that it isn't, or easily misconstrued/misinterpret what I say, and it's super aggravating. I feel that people don't often listen to me either, or ignore things I say that I feel might benefit or help a situation/person, and I get ignored. Sometimes I end up saying too little to people though, and I'm often verbally shy and don't say too much around people I don't know too well. It probably doesn't help the fact that Chiron is 5 degrees away from my Mercury (lol, it's like, really...), and they are pretty much opposite my Saturn. :/Hmmm, my mom has a Chiron/Venus conjunction too, I wonder if she has ever felt that way.
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Dancing Maenad
Knowflake Posts: 446
From: The Harvest
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted March 30, 2014 04:10 AM
Yellowelevator, does that make you feel self conscious about your communication manners/skills?Perhaps "shame" might be too strong of a situation for some. Say, an inferiority complex regarding what Chiron touches.
Forgot to say my Chiron is in Taurus and though I was never actually poor, I did use to feel inferior because we didn't have expensive things/clothes, didn't travel etc like the cooler kids did. The term "white trash" usually comes to mind thinking back. It's how I felt people saw me and my folks. I don't feel that way anymore, probably because in the meantime I gained access to what was denied to me growing up.
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Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 3245
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 04:17 AM
I have Chiron in the 2nd House and I can kinda relate with feeling "ashamed" in a way.I was spoiled my whole life, and I was always ashamed with what I had because my friends didn't have as much as me in terms of material wise. And now that will come back to haunt me when I grow up, as I will be used to it, but I will need to do everything on my own. So Chiron will indeed be my "pain" with the 2nd House and Libra themes (Chiron in Libra - relationships). IP: Logged |
Mercurian Intellect
Knowflake Posts: 3245
From: Vulcan & Mercury. Yes, I was born on both planets, somehow.
Registered: Sep 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 04:29 AM
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
It's conj Venus and I also felt like I am or should be ashamed of being attractive.
I have it exactly conjunct Venus (in Libra! How terrible is that?), and it also conjuncts Sun and squares Moon. It even contra-parallels my Sun, lmao. So it's like a double Sun/Chiron aspect. IP: Logged |
next to neptune
Knowflake Posts: 1130
From: Mercury
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 05:17 AM
My chiron is in the 12th house…closely conjunct ascendant:S I don't really know what it means though… IP: Logged |
Kerosene
Knowflake Posts: 9737
From: Mercury
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted March 30, 2014 05:40 AM
I have chiron in the 3rd house.I tend to play dumb often.  IP: Logged |
nikki01
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: neptune
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 30, 2014 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
I have chiron in the 3rd house.I tend to play dumb often. :p
same here
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Jo B
Knowflake Posts: 216
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Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 30, 2014 06:24 AM
It's in my 5th house, which is apparently all about creativity, love and children.I think those things figure big in my life. I don't have kids but I love them and am a big kid myself. I feel quite happy about those aspects really, although they oppose all my planets in the 11th house. IP: Logged |
NeptunianSag
Knowflake Posts: 654
From: Your imagination
Registered: Aug 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 10:41 AM
Chiron in 10th I'm ashamed of society. IP: Logged |
StarlightSmileSupreme
Knowflake Posts: 8127
From: neptune
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 30, 2014 10:47 AM
I have Chiron in sixth conjunct descendant. I am ashamed of other people and how they act. That's why I pretend to be an alien species, at least psychologically, and convince myself I am above all that.IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy
Knowflake Posts: 5262
From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron)
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted March 30, 2014 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
I have Chiron in sixth conjunct descendant. I am ashamed of other people and how they act. That's why I pretend to be an alien species, at least psychologically, and convince myself I am above all that.
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I have always been ashamed of my family, my roots, even my country.
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Solar_Leo_Queen
Knowflake Posts: 832
From: Planet Earth
Registered: Jan 2014
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posted March 30, 2014 11:17 AM
I have Chiron in the 5th conjunct Mars and opposing Saturn. Since it's all about creativity and all, I tend to take negative criticisms from my friends or accquaintances personally if they are about my talents. They scar me for life. Just like the one time my friend told me his mom didn't like my singing. It actually scarred me and now I'm so afraid to perform in front of people. I know it's just one person who said that, but it really affected me. I guess now I'm kind of "ashamed" of everything I create. I feel awkward showing my creations to my friends especially songs and artworks.IP: Logged |
yellowelevator
Newflake Posts: 16
From: Michigan/Pluto
Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 30, 2014 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
Yellowelevator, does that make you feel self conscious about your communication manners/skills?Perhaps "shame" might be too strong of a situation for some. Say, an inferiority complex regarding what Chiron touches.
Forgot to say my Chiron is in Taurus and though I was never actually poor, I did use to feel inferior because we didn't have expensive things/clothes, didn't travel etc like the cooler kids did. The term "white trash" usually comes to mind thinking back. It's how I felt people saw me and my folks. I don't feel that way anymore, probably because in the meantime I gained access to what was denied to me growing up.
Yes, I think I do often feel self-conscious when I speak. I'm constantly watching what I say because I'm always afraid of sounding insensitive or rude, so a lot of time when I feel hurt by someone I won't be honest with how I feel. I tend to play dumb too like others said. I'm sorry you had to grow up feeling that way, I imagine it must have felt tough at times. Happy to hear that has changed though! IP: Logged |
LoadedPistil
Knowflake Posts: 765
From: NJ, USA
Registered: Feb 2014
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posted March 30, 2014 07:35 PM
My chiron is in the 12th house where shame belongs. 
I'm not quite ashamed of my secrets, but that's kind of an oxymoron. Some secrets I keep until things change and I can be MORE proud of it then. Like I was engaged. Nothing to be ashamed of, but I didn't say much about it because I felt like I needed more proof that it was happening. No acceptable plans were being made. He wanted me to go visit his family without him- cultural differences. I'm not going to a country clean across the globe fighting gorilla war alone. Uhhh... No. Of course the wedding didn't happen, so in hind sight, nothing to tell. 
ETA: Chiron oppose Uranus. Ashamed of failures, I guess? If that's the aspect meaning, that is true!!------------------
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