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hannaramaa
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posted May 05, 2014 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are some ways your mutable S.Os have shown their interest, or if you're one - you showed your interest? What are the differences between the way you do it and your fellow Cardinal or Fixed signs?

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posted May 05, 2014 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like sun signs?

I find people show how there interested though their venus and mars.
Also mercury but when it comes to romance venus more so than mercury.

So a mutable sign can easily have cardinal or fixed venus.

Unless sun and venus is in the same sign.

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posted May 05, 2014 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, sun signs do affect a persons energy. Obviously fixed signs are pretty consistent. Even when they have different mars/venus, they are still consistent.

Mutable signs tend to drop in and out.

Cardinals are reliable in how they react to to people. Libras can be flaky but generally cardinals are really quick to help you. They are just not always there. Even for capricorn

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posted May 05, 2014 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Like sun signs?

I find people show how there interested though their venus and mars.
Also mercury but when it comes to romance venus more so than mercury.

So a mutable sign can easily have cardinal or fixed venus.

Unless sun and venus is in the same sign.


Man, people are picky… like if you know someone who has mutable anything, you should just go ahead and list what they were like or your experience. Mutable Venus and mars then…

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posted May 05, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by theunknown:
Well, sun signs do affect a persons energy. Obviously fixed signs are pretty consistent. Even when they have different mars/venus, they are still consistent.

Mutable signs tend to drop in and out.

Cardinals are reliable in how they react to to people. Libras can be flaky but generally cardinals are really quick to help you. They are just not always there. Even for capricorn


Thanks. Why do mutables drop in and out though? That seems counterintuitive to liking someone. Then again some cardinal signs get really excited and are up people's ***** 24/7 'til one day they're not…

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posted May 05, 2014 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well..

I mean idk..

A pisces with Venus in Aries will tend to be more direct about their interest.

I mean they may not be stable lovers because of the mutable sun but its obvious if they are interested.

A Gemini sun/Venus likes to keep their options open and maybe be vague on how serious they are because they probably aren't, but a taurus venus tends to be fixated on a single crush.

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posted May 05, 2014 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The thing is your venus/mars indicate how you express love and anger. However your sun is still your core. That's how I view it anyway

I have cap venus and mars. I act like a cap venus. But when it comes to love, my cap venus is also supplementary to my aqua sun.

Yes, a Pisces with aries venus comes off more Arian in immediate terms (Rihanna and her song "shut up and drive"). But her pisces sun is the long term mode she will be in (how her and Chris brown played out).

Shakira has aries venus. Her relationships seem to be very aqua/fixed to me (dated one dude for 10 years, dating another recently).

I have noticed mutable signs just kinda drop in and out a lot. I'm heavy fixed and cardinal so I can't understand it but someone here explains to me that I should not take it personally. I have noticed my mutable friends will stop hanging out with me for a while and then a few months, some times a year later reach out and reconnect. Typically a fixed sign would have walked away and not turn back. Cardinals also don't just drop in and out

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posted May 05, 2014 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Op clearly asked about interest, for a relationship to begin there needs to be courtship.

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What are some ways your mutable S.Os have shown their interest, or if you're one - you showed your interest? What are the differences between the way you do it and your fellow Cardinal or Fixed signs?

That's why i mentioned that your sun does not always determine the manner of which you will approach someone you are interested in.

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posted May 05, 2014 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
well..

I mean idk..

A pisces with Venus in Aries will tend to be more direct about their interest.

I mean they may not be stable lovers because of the mutable sun but its obvious if they are interested.

A Gemini sun/Venus likes to keep their options open and maybe be vague on how serious they are because they probably aren't, but a taurus venus tends to be fixated on a single crush.


Venus in a mutable sign would keep their options open then? And what if that Venus is marred by Uranus (HAHAHA…seriously just read that out loud to yourself….#fiveyearsold)

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posted May 05, 2014 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theunknown     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Op clearly asked about interest, for a relationship to begin there needs to be courtship.

That's why i mentioned that your sun does not always determine the manner of which you will approach someone you are interested in.


I don't disagree. I'm just saying sun signs factor in at time if you know someone for a long time.

Anyway, I sidetracked with my rant lol

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posted May 05, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarmicMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Virgo ASC and Cancer Sun/Mars with Venus in Leo. I think at first my Virgo/Cancer side comes out. I want to please a man. The mutablity comes in because I just go with their flow, sometimes giving up things I want in order to please them. I include my Cancer Sun in that because Cancers want to nuture and care for people like Virgo does. It isn't until later my Venus in Leo comes out. If they aren't giving me enough attention back then I am not happy!

How do I show I am interested? I acted interested in everything they like and everything they say, even if I'm not, lol! I can be pretty flexible in relationships as long as my Venus in Leo is getting satisfied.

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posted May 06, 2014 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Often they don't express that they are seriously interested.

The most common mutable man scenario is this:

Girl meets boy, boy likes girl, boy gets closer, befriends her etc. , boy and girl either arrange to meet up or bump into each other by accident at a party or other event.. they drink, they dance, they make out, they might even have sex.. The next day girl wonders "where is this going"... (Sometimes this situation is repeated a few times over).. Mutable guy then goes about his life as though nothing happened... Girl starts picturing a future together.. Guy continues acting like nothing happened.. After a while girl confronts guy and starts asking him serious questions about his feelings for her and what he wants. Guy does his best to evade all questions and get the hell out of there ASAP. Guy starts to avoid Girl like the plague. Girl eventually moves on with a rebound.

That pattern happens with many women - Taurus, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Capricorn influence - commonly end up wondering - what in the world happened with the mutable guy? "But he seemed to like me. We had fun together. But why would he just leave?? Why is he avoiding my calls?" and so on....
The only answer to this is - they have their own life and they want to live it - not as part of a couple, but on their own.

With Aries/Gemini/Sagittarius influenced women... usually their behaviour isn't an issue, because they are not looking for commitment.

Aquarius can go either way. Sometimes Aquarius women become very serious later on in life and really expect their partner to be there for them.

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posted May 06, 2014 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm...

Interesting question. From my experience (both with dating and with being a mutable sign), I'd have to say that it is this: Mutable signs tend to gradually build their feelings for you. Cardinal signs almost always start off full force and often find that they made a mistake by starting off that way and so their interest tapers off gradually. Fixed signs are very all or nothing, live or die by the sword, in relationships and remain consistent throughout (which is why, if their love ever turns to hatred, the hatred will remain consistent as well).

Mutable signs though, tend to start off very low key. The ones that I've known aren't always fully sure of their own feelings to begin with (particularly the insecure ones). I think that Mutables sometimes more accurately know the difference between 'interest' (which is mentioned here, and typically is simply initial sexual attraction) and the actual relationship phase where there is a deeper understanding between two individuals based on time and care. So yes, people who become cling-ons within the first few days/weeks of a relationship can seem cloying at best and totally disingenuous at worst (because they are in love with the image and not the person). That being said, there are sh*tty people of all signs and some of the mutable men (and women too) do use a lack of communication and a lack of commitment/follow through to play the field. Truthfully though, if they really like you, they will wander back and stay in your vicinity. They will take the time to show you and tell you that they appreciate you.

Mutables can also unintentionally fool you because they can be chameleon-like. Many of them want you to like them and so sometimes they get caught up going along with whatever you're doing (or saying) without really correcting you if you are wrong, until you have something totally made up in your head. If you haven't asked, Mutables aren't always inclined to tell you, particularly if it is bad news, in part, because they feel you shouldn't have assumed in the first place.

The mutable signs, if you will remember from Astro 101, are about the end, or the CULMINATION of things. I do tend to see this playing out in their relationships- they relish building tension in relationships and they feel more comfortable emotionally with a gradual start (their sexual libido may say otherwise though). The truth is, you will too, because it means they are actually getting to know you. Also, mutable signs have a much easier time just letting go of things (and people) who they feel it just isn't working out with. They'd rather float away than make a dramatic exit (like lots of the fixed signs I've known).

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posted May 06, 2014 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Thanks. Why do mutables drop in and out though? That seems counterintuitive to liking someone. Then again some cardinal signs get really excited and are up people's ***** 24/7 'til one day they're not…

I have 5 mutable planets, but my Saturn and Venus (and asc) are fixed. If I like you, I like you and I'm not going anywhere (even if you want me to get lost. :P).

Until then then, I'm likely to bolt. But I either stay or go. I don't go back and forth.

Libra Mars, so if I like you, you are likely to get every compliment in the book. Not to flatter you, but because I like to share what it is that I like about you. If I'm thinking it, I say it. That's the Sag sun/merc/moon. Thought enters head, thought exits mouth.

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posted May 06, 2014 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jessica2407     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hmmm...

Fixed signs are very all or nothing, live or die by the sword, in relationships and remain consistent throughout (which is why, if their love ever turns to hatred, the hatred will remain consistent as well).


So true.

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posted May 06, 2014 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find that my Mutable Mars (cusp 12th/1st) conj Asc becomes VERY Aries in nature and hunts down the prey, literally. Once that is achieved and some interest, from me, lingers, I will turn into my Cardinal Cancer Sun in 11th and thus act like a really weird Aquarius that all of a sudden needs mucho space...BUT will have NO problems mothering (my Cancer sun) the relationship/courtship into friendship...

My Mars and also Venus (11th) sq Uranus (3H) is so mutable it makes Mutable seem Fixed. Sad but true and I am working what seems to be an uphill battle with that one.

My love and interest is very very fickle and changeable and I wouldn't trust me for a second. As a friend, YES, as a lover, oh no. It's created problems many times when I have dated other Mutables because they have "seen" me and thus withdrawn to spare themselves and I have in turn thought they have been a ssholes when it's been me all along...It got to a point where I only liked hanging around Mutables because their energy meant I had to.....waste little to no energy showing more interest. It all became very blase'.

Now, and this I find interesting, I have a Life Path 5 which is ruled by Mercury. My Asc is ruled by Mercury and Mercury is my highest ranking planet per delineation, so, perhaps I AM more Mutable than Mutable and just have to learn to accept that I morph every darn second of the day.

This is how it works for me.

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posted May 06, 2014 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for depth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and Nodes in mutable signs.

- My feelings start low and slowly go up.
Or they start high and then go low. There are times when I feel like I don't love my partner. It's mostly a fleeting sensation and I wait for the phase to pass. I once broke up with an ex as a result of sudden loss of interest and never got back.

- When it comes to flirting, I like to chase. If my object of infatuation reciprocates, I become disinterested and move on to greener fields. Men who chase me are boring.

- I categorize men as Friend only, Man*****, Boyfriend material and Husband material. Boyfriend material and man***** are for recreation purpose only. No commitment here.

- I can have multiple crushes at a time. I can have a crush on you and your best friend and flirt with both. I have crushes for a day, for an hour, crush at first sight, crush all of a sudden after being friends for 3-4 years...anything

- I walk in and out of people's lives because I get bored of being with one person for a long time. I replace friends every year or every 6 months for this reason. 99% of them don't matter.

- I rarely get attached. In case the guy dumps me, it's an ego crack and not heartbreak.

- I've cheated before and battle with my roving eye on a regular basis. I try not to think about other men. But it's difficult.

- My partner has 2 mutable planets - Mercury and Moon. He chooses not to meet me for 2-3 days when he gets bored. That's his solution. When I need my space, his fixed and cardinal planets don't understand and assume I'm straying.

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posted May 06, 2014 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if we complicate it a little more and analyze Fixed / Cardinal showing interest vs. Cardinal / Mutable or Cardinal / Fixed, etc.

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posted May 06, 2014 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LucieLemonade     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What if we complicate it a little more and analyze Fixed / Cardinal showing interest vs. Cardinal / Mutable or Cardinal / Fixed, etc.

Then my head will explode, so let's not.

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posted May 06, 2014 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I agree with depth, I rarely get attached if I am its for a few weeks then I get bored.
I hate dating for the simple possibly of being bored, I'd rather become someone's friend then figure out the whole if I am really attracted to them.

People can rarely tell if I am flirting with them because I treat everyone the same. Even if I say hey let's go out that doesn't mean I like you, I am just socializing.

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