posted May 12, 2014 02:37 PM            

but I totally think it comes out in a lot of situations.

Last night there was this person I found really attractive but i was there with my s.o. if I find someone around me really attractive my natural reaction is to ignore them or give them the cold shoulder and for some reason this drives people crazy
They love it when I'm mean to them, I think it's because people are so smitten by good looks and while I appreciate beauty Im like.. DON'T LET IT GET TO YOUR HEAD.
Unless they crave attention like leo or libra people usually hate me lmfao.

posted May 12, 2014 02:43 PM            

LMFAO

posted May 12, 2014 04:17 PM            

Because ridiculously good looking are use to having people all over them it's like reverse psychology.
and I definitely appear to be unfazed by them.

Idk I can be very charming and if I feel I already have power over the other person.

Venus/Lilith goal is to get want they want at all costs.

posted May 12, 2014 11:36 PM            

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Originally posted by starlitroad:
I think I have a negative aspect square or opposition, can't remeber well. And I don'think I a a seductress. Unless by that you mean guys comming across me ,years after I liked them and stating I was a crush, but I was too blind too see the signs. But that's probably not ven bml

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posted May 13, 2014 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Care to elaborate I never knew she deepens things ?

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I read it on Clairvision a year ago or so that Lilith doesn't like to keep things light and fluffy. She is dark, instinctual, and primordial, raw human energy. She likes to dig deep in the trenches, to seek out what makes things tick, I would say she is investigative as well as seductive.

posted May 13, 2014 12:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
This is interesting, I don't know much about this aspect...only that whatever planet Lilith touches deepens and makes things less superficial. So with Venus does this mean she makes it hard for you to connect with others if you don't feel a strong connection?

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posted May 13, 2014 12:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Comatoes:
I read it on Clairvision a year ago or so that Lilith doesn't like to keep things light and fluffy. She is dark, instinctual, and primordial, raw human energy. She likes to dig deep in the trenches, to seek out what makes things tick, I would say she is investigative as well as seductive.

I personally think BML aspects can create a unique way of seeing or doing things. In mythology, she was an original and free-thinker...

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Interesting...
Also its important to note her myth
I really sorta respect her for not being compliant like eve but wanting to be an equal to adam.

posted May 13, 2014 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Peri:
h13 is true BML
There are 2 Black Moon Liliths: one is mean BML (Lilith on additional objects list in astro.com) the other is true BML (h13 Osculating Lunar Apogee on the list of "hypothetical" planets )

asteroid Lilith (#1181on the list of named asteroids)

and Dark Moon Lilith (h58 Waldemath Black Moon on the list of "hypothetical" planets)

In my opinion, BML represents the subconscious part of our mind or the Unknown, its a hightly individual point in the chart , it is something that makes us different from others. BML also represents our anima/animus figure which is very interesting when it comes to synastry charts comparison. A relationship under the influence of BML may grow into a dangerous liaison, into a painful, intense, obsessive or strange love affair.

Which of them to use true or mean? The true is the more accurate placement but an ephemeris for it has only been available for about 10 years so not as much work has been done using it.
From my personal experience, I can say mean BML does work and manifests itself in transits and synastry quite noticeably! As for true BML I haven't worked with it yet.

Asteroid Lilith indicates where a person does not fit the cultural stereotype, leading to some kind of exile from the community, where we struggle with social judgments. In synastry, it can provoke confrontations with gender role stereotypes or a non-submissive disposition with regard to gender roles, personal independence and the use of sex as a weapon of vengeance or domination or maybe even lack of sexual commitment.

As for Dark Moon Lilith, it's a debated dark shadow around the Earth. Some think it is a ball of space dust, which would explain why it doesn't reflect the Sun as other Moons do. According to Delphine Jay,the effect of Dark Moon Lilith is distinctly impersonal.
I have never used DML.

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posted May 13, 2014 12:19 AM            

I have asteroid Lilith conjunct Venus haaaa

posted May 13, 2014 12:26 AM            

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Interesting...
Also its important to note her myth
I really sorta respect her for not being compliant like eve but wanting to be an equal to adam.

She is on my dsc and I just feel very strongly against getting married. I do find the arrangement too superficial for my taste...
It just destroys the raw and enigmatic quality from love...and makes it into this robotic family unit that I don't want to conform to if that makes sense?

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You know what- I agree about not getting married. Whenever I see my uberconservative aunt she always asks me in concern when I am planning on meeting someone and getting married.

posted May 13, 2014 12:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Uhm I use the one on astro.com drop down box I think that is a mean?

I have asteroid Lilith conjunct Venus haaaa

double Lilith sandwich

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Cool Cool!
My mean BML isn't connected to Venus. It's in early Gemini conjunct my Chiron (in the 12th).

But my true BML is conjunct Venus and opposite Pluto. I don't react by ignoring someone if I find them attractive. I like expressing my feelings. Also, I find it kind of dispassionate to ignore someone or to be attracted to them ignoring you.
Maybe mean BML is more relevant though, in which case I don't have the aspect.

posted May 13, 2014 12:41 AM            

I wonder if I would considered Lilithian!!!

posted May 13, 2014 12:41 AM            

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Unless they crave attention

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posted May 13, 2014 12:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:

I wonder if I would considered Lilithian!!!

Hmm I mean if they talk to me I'll acknowledge them but Its very cold and distant.

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posted May 13, 2014 12:47 AM            

I do this at large social situations.
I don't believe in competing with others and being the only one who does not give attention definitely intrigues and distinguishes myself from others.

I'm called told i'm mysterious because of this.

posted May 13, 2014 01:04 AM            

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I think it's about making the peacock do the fowls job for once..

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hmmm I see what you mean. I'm not attracted to peacock type men.. I'm not pretending not to be.. I'm actually not - and there have been times when my disinterest 'rocked their world' in the past.

I don't find this entertaining though, just ridiculous. When this kind of 'peacock' guy sees me as a challenge, I usually make up something crazy like "I'm pregnant. Bye" lol

When things happen the other way around - I find the male radar is very off. What I mean by that is - women seem to accurately spot actual peacocks... whereas men go by appearances only and they end up hurting anorexic models who were on the brink of suicide. Many men seem to think that good looks = confidence, when very often it doesn't for women.

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oh and its more like I do this at large social situations.
i think its to distinguish myself from others.
I don't believe in competing with others.

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posted May 13, 2014 01:12 AM            

I'm not very approachable I have saturn conjunct MC too so I definitely intimidate!!!
I usually have to make the first move if I want to make friends etc.
Lilith probably does not help either.
Personally , don't understand how people like being objectified by a bunch of people, I'm not freaking zoo animal or an art piece in a gallery.
I feel claustrophobic and run away if Im ever in that situation.

This is why I don't like clubs either or bars..