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BlackSeraph
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posted February 27, 2014 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Been wondering a bit about the Vertex (and the associated Antivertex)... Main reason I wonder is that in the next two years transit Pluto will not only oppose my natal Vertex (conjucting the Antivertex), but transit Uranus will also square the Vertex axis (and transit Uranus is already hitting opposite my natal Mars/Pluto/Venus stellium in Libra, so I'm already feeling effects it seems).

As far as the Solar Arc vertex, I did a check on astro.com about the Solar Arc vertex as compared to my chart for an entered date of December 17, 2013. Solar arc Vertex had passed over my natal Mercury. That rough date (when not using current date it seems to go by midnight UTC, which is fine for our purposes). That date's significant as that's the night after I gave my initial three-week notice at my job (which I'm still at), as I was going to be moving. Overnight after giving notice, I woke up in the middle of the night with what I thought was a major calf strain. In reality, as I discovered a couple days later at the behest of my family doctor, it was actually a DVT (blood clot in my calf), delaying my move plans and putting me in the hospital for a few hours. (Everything I've read about THAT affliction usually suggests DAYS if not WEEKS in the hospital, and I've been able to resume jogging since then after working myself back into it, so compared to a lot of other experiences with this affliction I've read, I came out VERY fortunate and seem to be recovering much faster than some people do, if they fully recover).

Noticing that solar arc vertex movement, I'm now extremely alert given the upcoming transits and the upcoming transit Grand Cross hitting my chart hard (again, on that Mars/Pluto/Venus stellium as well).

Does anyone have any personal experiences with such transits with slow moving planets like this? Placidus-house system wise, my Mars/Pluto/Venus stellium is in 10th house, with Venus 3-4 degrees from 11th house cusp in Libra, and my Vertex lies in 8th house Cancer (Antivertex being in Capricorn).

The other thing perking my ears up healthwise with this transit coming up in the next couple years is this article on the Vertex ( http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/MedicalAstrology29.5.htm ), which also examined transits, etc. to Carl Sagan's chart in 1994 (he passed away in 1996, with 1994 apparently being the year he fell ill). He had a couple similar transits then that I seem to have about to hit my chart in the next couple of years, and with my recent health issue/move delay, it's a bit of a concern. Also is the irony that he died in Seattle, WA and that's the general area I was to move to.

So yeah, I'm going to say that this is particularly of importance to my research.

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BlackSeraph
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posted February 27, 2014 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's the chart in question of the DVT night solar-arc wise.

I think there were also some transiting asteroids that made near-exact aspects, but I need to double-check which ones. (And that might be one for the asteroids forum).

Another bit of background was, a month or so before the clot hit, I backed my calf (the one that was afflicted) right into a metal pole at the gym where one would rack weights. (Working out CAN be dangerous apparently! :eek Then a metric crapton of stress at work (including a coworker that was running his mouth to HR for every perceived issue), then bronchitis/possible walking pneumonia a week before the clot, plus extreme cold with the weather, plus dehydration partially induced by the Prednisone I was taking for the lungs, and then... bam.

BTW, I still plan on making this move within the next couple of months. Been seeing a cardiologist too for a unrelated(?) scare, but those scans so far come up normal and blood tests (mostly) good. (one count is a little high, but compared to 1995 the last time I had a blood draw, vastly improved. I was way out of shape as a kid.) Also, an irony: the cardiologist recently broke his foot.

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Doux Rêve
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posted February 27, 2014 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I'm not sure the Vertex plays a role in this, but maybe it does.

But what's very evident here is transiting Jupiter conjunct your natal Vertex exactly, and Jupiter is your chart ruler.

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Jupiter -- can help through its protective influence or when in a negative mode can indicate a disease caused by excess, a liver disease or a blood disease.

Transiting Neptune squared your ASC - that one can indicate illness as well, or some kinds of weird symptoms. Oh and it also squared your Saturn, which conjuncts the Sun natally (health) and squares your ASC natally (body).

Transiting Uranus and Pluto are too far away from your Vertex though, the orbs need to be tight - 1° or 2°.

However they're in aspect with your Mars (which represents our physical body since it's connected to the ASC) BUT they were too far away back in December.
Besides Mars rules your 5H so you can maybe expect some instability in all things related to the 5H (but then again, it does conjunct your Venus which rules your 6H so there's still a bit of a health theme here).

An interesting thing is that transiting Mars was exactly conjunct your progressed Sun at 4° Libra! That speaks volumes - Mars is responsible for the sudden, violent pain.

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The progressed Sun which is also the same as the solar arc directed Sun is a good timer.

Another thing is that there was a Full Moon on that day at 25° Sag/Gemini and that was square your Nodes at 27° Virgo/Pisces (the health axis!)

Transiting Venus was opposite your Jupiter... again underlining the blood issues (Venus rules your 6H of health and Jupiter rules your ASC, and the opposition is a harsh aspect indicating challenges).

Note that your progressed Pluto squares your natal Vertex, and transiting Saturn was conjunct the SA Pluto (and trine natal Vertex) - emphasizing it.

Your progressed Venus (ruler of the 6H) was at 16° Scorpio and the SA Venus was at 20° Scorpio - both very close to transiting Saturn at 18° Scorpio and trine Jupiter - health problems of a Jovial nature (blood, like Bob Marks says).

Your upcoming transits look a bit scary indeed, because Jupiter, Uranus and Pluto will hit both your Venus (6H ruler) and Vertex, via hard aspects, although at different times.
However, they can also indicate a move, especially since tUranus is in your 4H (home).

I don't think you should worry too much, yes you may have some health problems but don't fear them, and keep the faith.
You'll have your Jupiter return in early July, that should help you, especially since it's your chart ruler; so you may feel increased energy and an overall better state of health.

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BlackSeraph
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posted February 27, 2014 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's something else I'm wondering regarding the future transits... Venus rules my 6th house, but also rules my 11th. Is there a possibility that this could impact 11th house matters more than the 6th house matters?

Something else I need to consider is the fact the next Solar Eclipse hits my Moon/Chiron within about a degree orb on April 29, 2014.

It will be within 5 minutes of a degree of the last Solar Eclipse that hit there back on the same date, April 29, 1995. And that last time, there was a health issue that manifested a month later: Chicken pox, right during High School finals week of all times! (Actually saved my ... in a couple classes as those teachers just averaged my grades for the year instead). I was 16, a little late to get the pox and too early timeline-wise to get the vaccine. (How effective is that, anyways?)

Nothing transiting my natal vertex around that time period, however progressed vertex and progressed Jupiter were conjunct, transit Chiron was stationing directly on my Midheaven, transit Mars was hitting natal Saturn, and transit Pluto retrograde was off-sign squaring my Sun. Oh, and Solar Arc Saturn was with the natal Midheaven/transit Chiron during the Chicken-Pox-during-Finals-Week thing.

Which is why I'm hoping I don't have a major health incident later on in a couple months, and I have received advice to be watchful of my health from end of April to the end of May already.

I need to cross-reference charts and see where the differences lie, and see what vertex impacts there are too.

This is turning into a bit of a case-study.

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posted February 27, 2014 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Transit Chart for the Chicken Pox thing:

And the Progressions/Solar Arcs:

Oooh, forgot about the Solar Arc Moon/Chiron being on Algol...

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BlackSeraph
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posted February 27, 2014 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Now, the 19-year anniversary of the Chicken Pox incident (approximate)...

Transits:

And the Progression/Solar Arcs:

In the 19-year approximate anniversary (and about a month after the next solar eclipse on practically the same place as in 1995), transit Chiron trines my natal Vertex.

Solar-Arc Jupiter conjuncts my natal Saturn, solar arc Vertex is still close to Mercury, but will be conjuncted by progressed Moon. Progressed vertex sextiles natal Pluto (ok, so a bit of easy-aspects here, unless conjunctions are taken to be hard-aspects in these cases). Progressed Pluto with natal Venus catches my eye, yet solar arc Midheaven is on fixed star Spica, which may insulate things a bit.

Transit Jupiter sextiles my natal Midheaven, also a good sign (and that's building up to the Jupiter Return).

Also noticing solar-arc Moon/Chiron is trining natal Pluto/Venus, so maybe things are smoothed over this time and I escape healthwise. Or maybe this affects 11th house matters more this time? I do know things between me and friends in general have in no way, shape or form have been smooth the last several months.

Transit Uranus opposite natal Pluto-Venus... and can't forget Mars in all of this both stellium-wise and transit-wise. Although solar-arc Mars conjuncts progressed Venus which is itself close to progressed Uranus... so I am going to have to exercise caution. Although they're both within a degree or two of also trining transit Chiron and natal Vertex.

Nothing hitting Algol this time. This is good news.

Now I'm wondering how this is going to play out. Suppose I'll have to exercise extreme caution and be careful.

I'll also have to consider the job front (as opposed to career/public facing matters), since 6th house also handles jobs and health. To be honest, one of the reasons I was going to leave this job I'm at now was partially health concerns (the stress with all the goings on there and the increasingly frustrating commute I was convinced was taking a major toll on me... and now I find myself there for the time being because the health benefits with all the doctor's visits and the prescription I'm on are the one thing keeping me from medical bankruptcy and I was already heavily in debt from years of job misfortunes, some of which admittedly was self-inflicted).

As an afterthought: The chicken pox happened at the end of my 10th grade (Sophomore) year. Don't know if that's relevant or not but there it is.

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Doux Rêve
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posted February 28, 2014 05:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by BlackSeraph:
Venus rules my 6th house, but also rules my 11th. Is there a possibility that this could impact 11th house matters more than the 6th house matters?

That's a great point.
Venus rules your 11th house as well, indeed, and sits in the 10th - career.
So, if you do move, you'll change jobs (6H) and your social position (10H) as well as your social circle (11H).
That makes sense.

But like you said, you still need to be careful with all the activity coming up around your Libra stellium.
I'm not sure it's possible to prevent illness or an accident, to be honest.
They "just" happen... Well, I may be biased.
Physical health is connected to our emotional / mental health as well so you could look into that and see if there's something in your life that's creating some negativity in you and your life. You said your work environment is stressful and that things have been pretty tough with your friends - maybe try to improve things in those areas.

Hopefully nothing serious will happen to you!
Keep us updated.

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posted July 24, 2014 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, here's an update:

May 9th was my last day at the job in question. On May 22nd, I began my journey and moved. Arrived at my new location in western Washington state (North of Seattle) on May 31st at 4:14 PM PDT. Rooming with an old high school friend who's also effectively my boss at this time, and I'm slowly meeting some new people (one or two have already proven incendiary though the one girl, well that was my roommate's deal but she fired off a shot at me as well. Whatever). So, yeah, 6th/10th/11th house issues are very prominent right now.

The anticoagulant I've been on runs out next week (which my doctor in PA figured 8 months should be good enough, and generally is for a one-off occurrence. Never advised a follow-up scan (and neither did the cardiologist back in PA) so my admiration of western medicine right now is near nil). He advised me to go on aspirin after it runs out, and I don't want an ulcer. So I"m going with a more naturopath method for once I'm off the other stuff (Every vibe I get says NOT to mix the anticoagulant and the more natural supplement).

What I have found since my journey is this:
- Staying or getting in shape is proving to be more difficult than I hoped. Roommate has a lot of junk food around (he's trying to get a little healthier) and he's way out of shape. I had the same issue with my dad (who also kept buying junk, so I have little recourse but to improve my willpower considerably).
- Roommate vents about his goings on with his job (major company). Flashbacks to my dad continuously venting about his old job (before he left for another one that he walked out on a couple weeks in, right before his leg clot incident (likely age/diabetes/sedentary lifestyle-induced)).
- A couple of the projects I've been on have proven to be more difficult for me than I hoped, and I'm hitting a very tight deadline.
- The relocation chart for where I'm at puts relocated Ascendant square my Jupiter (so likely great struggle weight-wise, but squares are meant to be overcome . My roommate's relocated chart has Jupiter retrograde conjunct relocated Ascendant (his natal Ascendant conjuncts Mars), so I can see the weight thing and him)). My natal chart of course will have Ascendant square Sun/Saturn until the end of this life's days. Contemplating whether I'm in the right place for the long term. The old area I was in, in south-central PA, was certainly not doing me many favors as far as opportunity was concerned, however (as well as astro-cartography-wise: my "Saturn-Square-Ascendant" Power Line ran directly through my hometown, and "Sun-Square-Ascendant" power line close by my college town. astro.com has maps available in its Astro Click Travel (click All Horoscopes at a Glance)).
- The relocation chart also puts Relocated Vertex conjunct fixed star Algol (there's much to be said about that star). My time here will not be easy is what I'm interpreting this as and so far it's proving to be the case. It's 8th house relocated-chart-wise, though the relocated Vertex is in my natal 6th house, also directly on my natal asteroids 3811 Karma/18824 Graves in my chart (yes, both directly on Algol). Probably more something for the Asteroids forum.
- Just had a Jupiter Return. The vibe I'm getting since is that I really believe that I no longer want to do computer programming for the rest of my life. For now I need it to pay the bills (and not get kicked out from my current residence considering my roommate's my boss).
- During the journey nearly suffered heat exhaustion. The Mohave Desert was not kind to me that day. Had plenty of water but did not have Gatorade (I did have some bananas/coconut water for potassium though which probably saved me). That was the day I saw the big crater in Arizona (yeah I drove across most of Arizona during the day, probably not the best idea).

Another take-away that's quite relevant:
- Had I not had the DVT incident happened, I would have gone forward and attempted the move this past winter. This winter, though much of the country, was extremely brutal and cold!!! I would have hit some of the worst of the storms repeatedly. I also would have attempted the Oregon mountains in the dead of winter. In short: A few vibes I've had flat out put the thought in my head: "You would not have survived, and failed this move." So the incident basically immobilized me until a better collection of circumstances showed up. Also, the numerous heart/lung scans I had stemming from the heart-racing incident a month after the DVT showed:
-- EKG: Good.
-- Heart Ultrasound: Good
-- Lung VQ Scan/Chest X-Ray: Good, no Pulmonary Embolism * this was the immediate concern
-- 24 hour heart monitor: Good.
-- No mention of clogged arteries.
-- Very strong recommendation to reduce caffeine intake (estimated to be at 500-1000 mg of caffeine per day at the time my heart raced, maybe higher) * probably was the primary factor after years of doing this

Well, that's what I've got so far. Haven't had a chance to check Progressions/Solar Arcs yet. I'll see what I find when I get the opportunity. Figured this update was overdue though.

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