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plutonianmenace
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posted February 18, 2022 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn opposing my Sun, Mercury, and Venus and just realized that for the most part, I was a late bloomer. First kiss was not until my mid-twenties (yeah sad) and I didn't get my first job until my twenties either. Had overbearing parents that tried to heavily restrict my life and my freedom, forcing me to only focus on academics. I won't even mention the abuse and trying to get a stranglehold on every aspect of my life.

It is like I had to rebel and had no choice but to curse my father (who passed away last year) and go against the very parents I tried to look up to. It's like I had no choice but to deceive them and to lose all respect for them or else I was going to be a 40 year old man living with his mom and no woman in his life.

What gets me is that I am in my twenties still, late twenties, and feel so young. I feel like a case of Benjamin Button where the older I get, the younger I get. I spent my mid-twenties living like how high school and college kids are supposed to live like now that I had a job that paid well.

I lived in a major city and went out drinking every weekend, got with well over 50 different women, and said screw it to any commitment involving relationships. Looking back at it, I could have met some amazing girl and married her but I feel like I had a purpose. Somehow, to sleep with hundreds of different women and live like a pornstar was going to compensate for the sexless youth I had in high school and even college.

It gets me though because I feel like so much has to do with the Saturn oppositions, like you are forced to rebel or die.

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posted February 18, 2022 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's an interesting premise. I had not thought about that.

I am a late bloomer too in many ways, but Saturn doesn't oppose any of my inner planets, though it does square an important outer planet.

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Plut0nian2
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posted February 18, 2022 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems like you're more frustrated because you feel like you're left behind compared to others in your social circle, rather than being frustrated for not having the experiences you personally craved/dreamed of, if that makes sense.

It would be more interesting if we could see your natal chart. I'm interested in both extremes when it comes to sexual experience, so I've studied quite a few natal charts of both but way more of late bloomers.

From what I've seen till now it's never one aspect or placement, majority of love/sex houses (5th, 7th, 8th) and planets (Moon, Venus, Mars) have to be involved in unfavorable aspects/placements.

Saturn can lead to being a late bloomer but not always age wise.
For example Saturn/Venus (in hard aspect) people usually form relationships at what's considered a pretty "normal" age, however it seems that they get it right after their 30s.

Same with my cousin (Saturn square Mars), she had sex since she was 17yo, with a person she was in love with but she felt like she was being raped, she didn't understand why people like sex in the first place. She started feeling horny for the first time at the age of 23-24. She truly enjoyed sex for the first time at the age of 32 and I feel like it will get better and better for her with time.

I consider people mentioned above to be late bloomers in a way too.

Plutonians could be late bloomers by choice for whatever reason, pretty often the reason is they crave deep intimacy in order to be satisfied, if they can't have it then they choose to not have relationships/sex at all.

Uranus and Neptune are enamored with the idea of smth rather than the reality-experience of it. Uranus gets excited mentally, Neptune spiritually-emotionally. Both tend to keep things platonic. ​

These are the patterns I've observed in a bit over than 50 natal charts (if I'm not mistaken) of individuals that had zero sexual experience at least until the age of 26 if not way older.

● Pluto or Saturn in 5th H and
● Capricorn or Aqua DSC or Saturn or Uranus or North Node in 7th H and
● Lack of Jupiter and personal planets in 5th, 7th or 8th houses.

combined with:

■ Venus and Mars in hard aspect to either Pluto or Saturn
■ Venus in Aries, Gemini or Aqua and
Moon in Aries, Gemini or Aqua.

So all three circles ● combined with one of the squares ■

Some more aspects and placements that give similar traits could be included, but I wanted to mention only what I've observed in natal charts of late bloomers I've known/heard of.

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posted February 18, 2022 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was a late bloomer. I did not hit puberty until age 15

I have Saturn in Capricorn house 9 square Aries Sun house 11

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posted February 18, 2022 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for plutonianmenace     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For me.

Saturn = 6th house in Aqua

opposite Sun, Mercury, and Venus

Aqua DSC since Leo ascendant

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posted February 19, 2022 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadja     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Saturn opposite Sun and in some ways I'm a late bloomer. A far as sex and romance goes it's not a question of blooming late but rather me just being me. I'll be 35 soon and have never had any sort of romantic or sexual relations, but that's because I've never wanted to and just been true to myself. But in other ways I was a late bloomer. I had all the freedoms as a child and teen but I didn't take advantage of it. I had my first drink late, I took my driver's licence late, I spent more years as a student than most of my peers... I'm still living a life more akin to people in their early 20s, but I'm honestly fine with that. I have no wish to find a partner and have children. That's just not me.

And for the record, I have:
- Empty Aquarius 5th house
- Aries Descendant with North Node conjunct from the 7th
- Jupiter in Aries 7th, Venus in Taurus 8th
- No hard aspects between Mars/Venus and Pluto/Saturn. Only aspect between any of these is Mars trine Pluto.
- Venus in Taurus and Moon in Virgo.

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posted February 19, 2022 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowGerbera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What’s considered a late bloomer?
I think I may be one but I’m not sure… But:

- I’m still studying and trying to continue my education which will help advance in my field.
- Career-wise, I’ve done fine so far but I haven’t reached my goal position yet… I need education to achieve this hence why I’m still studying…
- I had my first born when I was 32.
- I still rent and hoping that my career will advance in the next few years and hopefully will finally make enough to buy a place!

I have Saturn square to Sun/Moon/Merc stellium in Pisces (in 3rd). Ruler of 10th house is Venus (in 4th) and it sesquisquares Saturn (in 12th).

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posted February 19, 2022 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a really late bloomer. Sex, relationships, work, accomplishments — all of it. I don't have any Saturn oppositions, but I do have some significant Saturn aspects and a lot of fixity (Taurus) in my birth chart.

- Saturn conjunct/parallel Sun in Taurus in 8th.
- Saturn trine Moon in Capricorn.
- Saturn trine Asc.

I don't think the solution is rebellion so much as it is knowing yourself from the inside out and allowing yourself your own pace and your unique aims to form. You could look at me and say I rebelled against my parents' religion, but I just left it. I tried other versions of it, but ultimately followed my own inner guidance. That was before I understood intuition or much about spirituality.

Personally, I don't give a **** what my peers are doing or what landmarks they're passing. And I haven't given a **** for a long time. Each of us has our own lives and if you're struggling with whose doing what and when, then you care more about others' expectations than who you are and your own life.

Saturn hides the issue of self-acceptance and self-appreciation. If you appreciate yourself, your abilities and needs then you have a good platform for taking control of your life, which is Saturn's favorite action.

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posted February 20, 2022 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn opposition is a hard aspect and will feel more tense than a soft aspect but also offers a great opportunity for growth. No Saturn oppositions for me, but my Saturn is conjunct my 7th House Ruler Mars and square my H7 Chiron. Conjunctions are a mix of hard and soft. I only got into my first relationship after my Saturn return. Like Kannon, I also have a lot of Taurus placements, so going slow is fast enough for me.

Life isn't a contest, you need to look at what is good for you and that isn't necessarily the same thing as other people. Don't look at what you're supposed to do, but what feels right for you and what alligns with your own inner values. Don't sacrifice yourself, but give what you're able to give. Life can be tough but no one has a responsibility to make it all better for you. No parents, older siblings or significant other will come to rescue you from a miserable life. It's all on you. And it's Saturn that will ask you to step up and take that responsibility and own it.

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posted February 20, 2022 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for suckysaturn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have Saturn opposition moon
And cap 7th house so i guess sat opposition asc (?)


I would agree I am a late bloomer I suppose however I do often feel that it’s actually punishment that’s dressed up as a positive. It’s presented that way because it sucks to just say “yeah you’ll miss out on years of fun because you’re way too insecure, serious and push/pull-like”. That sounds depressing and I think, defeatist. So people are like “no it’s actually a good thing that all your milestones will come later and when everyone else is settled into themselves so you can only relate to people 10 years older and 10 years younger than you… no really, it’s great!”

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posted February 22, 2022 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 93nov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by suckysaturn:

I have Saturn opposition moon
And cap 7th house so i guess sat opposition asc (?)


I would agree I am a late bloomer I suppose however I do often feel that it’s actually punishment that’s dressed up as a positive. It’s presented that way because it sucks to just say “yeah you’ll miss out on years of fun because you’re way too insecure, serious and push/pull-like”. That sounds depressing and I think, defeatist. So people are like “no it’s actually a good thing that all your milestones will come later and when everyone else is settled into themselves so you can only relate to people 10 years older and 10 years younger than you… no really, it’s great!”


Saturn squares my Sun, mars, and Ascendant while also making a trine to my Moon.

I completely agree with everything said lol.

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posted February 28, 2022 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for problematique     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes. saturn opposing my venus, mars, jupiter and i am 30 years old. never really enjoyed sex, never had a serious love relationship and just recently fully moved away from my parents.

they were very controlling and i always thought this was the main reason i was so late to everything. home life was somewhat bad.

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posted February 28, 2022 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

From what I've seen till now, it's never one aspect or placement. A majority of love/sex houses (5th, 7th, 8th) and planets (Moon, Venus, Mars) have to be involved in unfavorable aspects/placements.

Saturn can lead to being a late bloomer but not always age wise. For example Saturn/Venus (in hard aspect) people usually form relationships at what's considered a pretty "normal" age,however it seems that they get it right after their 30s.

Same with my cousin (Saturn square Mars), she had sex since she was 17yo, with a person she was in love with but she felt like she was being raped, she didn't understand why people like sex in the first place. She started feeling horny for the first time at the age of 23-24. She truly enjoyed sex for the first time at the age of 32 and I feel like it will get better and better for her with time.

I consider people mentioned above to be late bloomers in a way too.

Plutonians could be late bloomers by choice for whatever reason, pretty often the reason is they crave deep intimacy in order to be satisfied, if they can't have it then they choose to not have relationships/sex at all.

Uranus and Neptune are enamored with the idea of smth rather than the reality-experience of it. Uranus gets excited mentally, Neptune spiritually-emotionally. Both tend to keep things platonic. ​

These are the patterns I've observed in a bit over than 50 natal charts (if I'm not mistaken) of individuals that had zero sexual experience at least until the age of 26 if not way older.

● Pluto or Saturn in 5th H OR Capricorn or Aqua DSC or Saturn or Uranus or North Node in 7th H
● Lack of Jupiter and personal planets in 5th, 7th or 8th houses.

combined with:

■ Venus and Mars in hard aspect to either Pluto or Saturn
■ Venus in Aries, Gemini or Aqua
Moon in Aries, Gemini or Aqua.

So all three circles ● combined with one of the squares ■

Some more aspects and placements that give similar traits could be included, but I wanted to mention only what I've observed in natal charts of late bloomers I've known/heard of.

Yes 👍🏿.

I have Venus in hard aspect to Sat. Ven rules the 7th house and 2nd house. I think of Venus as the "pleasure principle" planet. In that, it is through Venus that one gets in touch with "pleasure". This either sensual, mental or otherwise etc.

My Ven conj Sat. I have been delayed there. Even now(am 38) I am still a little anxious over this thing called sex. So I abstain from it. But I do enjoy self pleasure (masturbation).

Saturn/Ven in Sco are also in house 8, so that energy affects the house of "intimacy".

Pluto is also in house 8 and I think Pluto is either really into sex.This to a point of obsession. Or detached from it. Up to the point of aversion.

I don't like sex with another person. It doesn't live up to expectations. And I think my expectations are quite high. I also have Sun-Nep conj with Sun ruling the 5th house.

There is confusion here and "disconnect" about how sex "ought" to be. And the real tangible experience of it , as it is.

I often think that Nep touching Ven/Mars or influencing the 5th/8th or 7th house etc. Is the type to experience very powerful orgasms. This barring aspects to Saturn.

The imagination is so strong, the experience of "merging" themselves into their "world" can feel so consuming, that they feel like they don't need a partner. They can reach heights of ecstacy all on their own🤷🏿‍♂️

I actually think Neptune rules 'self pleasure'. Due in part to the fact that one immerses themselves into an imaginative world of their own creation that sensitizes them so much to what they like, they give in to it and climax🤔


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posted March 07, 2022 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 07, 2022 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dons2angelss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a late bloomer when it comes to my "love life". I have Saturn opposite Venus and in my early life this forced me to grow up way too fast to take care of my younger siblings but, I was very hindered when it came to paying attention to myself. My body, my needs, wants, strengths, and weaknesses all of those things you learn in your teen and 20's years. I was too busy surviving to really figure myself out. I was 24 when I had my first son and I was absolutely not prepared and we had a rough first few years. My Saturn return is when I really turned my focus inward and started figuring myself out.

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