posted August 05, 2015 08:35 PM              

I'm an air moon (Libra) and I connect with, understand, and sympathize with other people better than some water moons I know. And i know other air moons (and earth moons) that are the same way as me.

Its not that we can't connect with you on an emotional level. Its probably we just are not doing it in the way you may want it to be done.

As for the whole "weak" thing, imma call a spade a spade and tell someone to "man the heck up" if they're constantly acting like a baby.

Would you like to know what its like to be an AIR moon for a day? To constantly be lost in the emotional temperance and chaos of your social environment while still maintaining composure because you want to help people make better sense of it instead of acting recklessly while making sure YOU don't end up acting recklessly like our fire opposites??

posted August 05, 2015 08:49 PM              

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Originally posted by Vajra:
Just as a general thought - not displaying emotions to others is not tantamount, or even indicative, of not having emotions. Take Scorp for example, they often have superb self control but no serious astrologer would assume they don't feel very deeply. As a matter of fact, nobody is in a position to make a realistic guess as to how deeply another person actually feels, that's total BS; nobody is "special" in that sense (except perhaps for those few people with organic damage to their brain tissue which influences their ability to process stuff). But to assume that one is somehow so much more sensitive than others may on the contrary indicate the very opposite thing - that one has in fact little regard for the emotions of others because one cannot seem to even notice them.

Another thing - if people tell someone that they are being overly dramatic, overly emotional etc., this can sometimes mean that by their very open displays of emotion, perhaps over trivial matters, they are in effect draining other people, which is easily done by oversharing personal issues which one should be able to deal with on one's own. It's just a nicer way to put it, but that's often what is meant. Life can be hard to deal with for almost anyone on occasion, and people who don't habitually drag others down with their volatile emotional states could therefore be said to do the world a favor, by not destroying another's good mood, or by not enhancing their sadness. Not saying this to criticize those who are more open with their emotions, but there is definitely a balance to strike between being open and warm and being "too open", "too much", or just too emotionally demanding.

In case this sounds insensitive which it may very well do - I should perhaps add that I grew up among Cancer Moon people and dear God, did they sometimes drain everyone around them with their issues (of course they have their good sides too, but the famous Cancer Moon empathy only came out when they were feeling good, otherwise it only extended to themselves and everything else could go to hell) so I really cherish the odd Cappy, Gem or Aqua Moon among my acquaintances who just doesn't do this.

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This is what i am talking about, just no emotional understanding whatsoever. When i speak about issues it has certainly not anything to do with trivial matters but ofc for a non emotional person they will always assume its trivial. Tbh i find non emotional people to get more upset about trivial matters. And no, i dont tend to share my emotions very often but still i get the same ass respons back the sec i try to make someone understand me. I got to say for me and my experience non emotional moons just suck at understanding others and sometimes even themselves. And also if you are assuming i feel "special" and better for feeling more deeply than them around me you couldn`t be more wrong. Its draining to soak up all the s h i t that goes on around us and this is one of the reasons why we tend to be moody and irrational.

"But to assume that one is somehow so much more sensitive than others may on the contrary indicate the very opposite thing - that one has in fact little regard for the emotions of others because one cannot seem to even notice them. "

posted August 05, 2015 09:12 PM            

That said, though I realize that your water moon wants validation and comforting rather than what I'm about to share, you don't understand others as well as you think, assuming you're like most water moons talking about how well they understand others but aren't understood in turn. I'd think air and earth moons could understand others best from a dispassionate perspective (which water moons, especially Scorpio and Cancer, could easily see as a breach of loyalty to not show favoritism), though they wouldn't be able to understand the power of passions and drive as well as fire moons or sentiments and feelings as well as water moons. And water moons can become so self-absorbed in how they feel that they can't see things from any other perspective at all, not even another water moon...and water can also be blind to the hurts that a Cappie moon easily feels but can't express just because Cappie moon doesn't ask for hugs and might not handle them well even if received without asking (I knew a Scorpio sun with Cappie moon, she had it hard, but most water moons would never know for she'd almost never show it).

And the rest of us are not so carefree even if we don't need constant hugs and validation. Water moons do have a way unique to themselves in understanding others and to recharge themselves but so do the fire, air, and earth moons in their own way which water moons can't match either. (And yet all, including water, can also be very self-serving. The trick of all is to find the right balance between caring for one's self and caring for others which actually complements each other when done right.)

While most people are going to mistake at least some of their subjective reality as objective (and thus mistake their subjectivity as obvious to everyone else which creates misunderstandings) water moons seem the most prone to it to me. They think "I feel it, therefore it's real and others can feel it, too, and if someone makes me feel bad somehow even by just not giving a me a hug as I sit here pensively saying I am okay then they're doing it on purpose because they know exactly what I'm feeling and what they're doing." Which they're often wrong about and their reacting on their beliefs makes it hard for them to get along with others around them which creates a vicious circle.

Also, water moons tend to think "if I give others what I want then they should give me what I want." The thing is other moons don't need the same thing and thus another vicious circle as water moons become "clingy" to other moons which pushes them away causing the water moon to redouble their efforts which is alienating to many around them and frustrating and painful to the water moon who isn't understanding others the way s/he thinks s/he does. Adding to it is that the water moon takes it personally and feels they have a legitimate grudge (see above about mistaking their own emotional conditions for objective reality) which will only serve to exacerbate the sitch rather than fix it.

posted August 05, 2015 09:12 PM            

I know it may seem that way to you and maybe you are right to some extent regarding the people around you. Your experience is yours alone.

We all have the capability to feel deeply, but how we display our emotions are different, not stronger or weaker.

I often put myself in someone's shoes. Even more so than that. I am very empathetic. I can feel people's emotions without them saying a word. I can also tell when someone is in need, someone needs attention, or if someone is an energy vampire.

I don't feel the need to share my emotions or show them all the time (if at all), but that doesn't mean I don't have the capability to feel deeply.

posted August 05, 2015 09:22 PM            

The first post strikes me as a bit angry in tone. It's as if to suggest air moons etc have some sort of obligation to pander to the needs of water moons. There is no obligation. I could easily turn that around and suggest that water moons try to be a little more rational in their thinking.

Air moons are not 'unemotional'. They are simply less emotional and more rational.

posted August 05, 2015 09:23 PM            

Astrology can be helpful, as can observation and listening to how people talk. I tease one boy I know because he likes the attention and isn't hurt by it (he teases me back) but never the two others with him (one is a Cancer sun and the other a Cancer moon) because I know the danger is too high that they'd miss the affection and playfulness behind it and thus tailor my interactions with them accordingly. I listen to them (even what they say in passing or to others) and I do modify my actions and how I show affection in regards to that so that they all get personalized gifts from me, for example, which takes their personal needs into account.

Of course they meet me half way. And interesting enough my Pisces moon BFF (whom I make a habit of recalling happy memories and our best times together before meeting her to make a "friendly vibe" for her though I don't know what it's like for her, only that it helps) seems to think I can be clingy in a fire moon way as I confront or prepare to confront someone I think is taking advantage of her kind nature or otherwise mistreating her. She's told me to stop at times (which I do). Of course other times she appreciates it.

I helped take care of one Pisces moon guy who could barely operate out in the world because of his psychic sensitivity (and I'm not easily convinced of such things) but I only have some idea of what it's like for him. I sympathize (but also pitied him at times, but strangely some water moons actually seem to enjoy pity) and I help, however, and I'm one of the few humans he seems able to have around for any length of time without it distressing him. He was the one that inspired me to come up with the strategy to think of all the happy and warm moments we've shared (and of other times) and try to keep my vibes friendly and supportive of him knowing that at some level he was picking it up...though I don't know what that was like for him beyond an idea (that is I don't FEEL it) and hope I never do, just enough to get along with him and make his life a bit easier. (Interesting enough I did have some psychic experiences where I was vividly scanning the thoughts of others but thankfully I mostly picked up words rather than feelings--I actually thought I was listening to them speak rather than merely think which was merely confusing to me rather than overwhelming or painful, and that's different from that Pisces moon psychic.)

posted August 05, 2015 09:25 PM            

Scorpio Moon - Yes.. Air signs can come to understand Scorpio Moon to some degree - because they are very resilient, don't easily take things personally - and are able to explain themselves.
But there will always be a mysterious side to Scorpio, that no one can penetrate.

posted August 05, 2015 10:13 PM            

Actually as a Pisces moon I keep a lot to myself, so if people don't get me, it's not their fault.

A turning point in my marriage to my Libra moon husband came when I started jokingly assuming his tone of voice and ridiculing myself, anticipating things he was thinking or would say. And I would be really fierce, saying things he wouldn't ever dare to say, but I knew he was thinking it.

He about died laughing whenever I did this (still does...it's our thing.) And I think that was the first time I saw this light go on in his eyes where he was seeing that I know more than I usually show. That I can trace even his harshest trains of thought, and turn it into a joke.

That won some genuine respect from him that warmed my heart.

What I'm saying is, if people don't understand us instinctively, we all can get creative in finding ways to communicate across the divide...it's interesting, too, to test things out and see what works and what doesn't. In my experience anyway.

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posted August 05, 2015 10:17 PM              

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Originally posted by DopGang:
So what brought all this on?

It seems like you're venting some frustration from some personal situation.

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posted August 05, 2015 10:54 PM            

Well, you can only remain that way for so long. I believe our emotions catch up to all of us eventually. Just because these ppl have not come face to face with them doesn't mean they don't have them, just they are not ready or strong enough yet to face them. Unfortunately if they can't face their own they can't face yours either!

To finish my lil virgo moon story, eventually I was not strong enough to hold them back any longer or maybe it was more that I was strong enough, to face them so they flooded out! I let my avalanche crash down on me and i felt it all. Scary times!!
But after it was over, I was no longer afraid of my feelings or others...but I did suddenly start noticing so many ppl seemed to be emotionless. Now before ppl never seemed emotionless, actually they seemed flakey and overly emotional. But now, by comparison to me...many ppl seemed so unempathetic.
I've slowly grown into feeling, put on my big girl pants and let myself understand and comprehend others feelings as I'm learning to comprehend my own.

So, my new boyfriend has a pisces moon...and as I've become more emotional I've noticed myself acting in less rational ways! Lol he's the first guy that's tells me as I'm acting "too emotional" that he adores how sweet I am. It's taken me time to get what hes meant by that, esp saying it at the times he does. What he means is he adores my emotions. He loves that I feel so deeply that I get emotional about it and express it, even if I'm to emotional he feels that shows I care, I feel, if I feel that deeply I must have a big heart. He's right I do! You wouldn't have thought that 5 years ago...but I had a big heart then to, I was just afriad of it.

So I don't think it's a lack of feeling, I think it's lack of ability to handle feelings that makes ppl come across as unemotional. Water signs drive into emotions like they are home, air signs need to intellectualize emotions, fire signs tend to fight emotions or explode with them and earth signs tend express emotions through gestures more than words they make their emotions tangable, something you can touch. I think it's more of a matter of understanding how the person expresses emotions and what they fear regarding expressing those emotions.

I hope that makes sense.,..

posted August 06, 2015 12:14 AM            

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But after it was over, I was no longer afraid of my feelings or others...but I did suddenly start noticing so many ppl seemed to be emotionless. Now before ppl never seemed emotionless, actually they seemed flakey and overly emotional. But now, by comparison to me...many ppl seemed so unempathetic.

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I wonder if I could go through that same change. Generally I tune into people's emotions or try to (and I think the mere effort is responsible for any "intuition" I have), but I feel like you are seeing them clearer...from the way you describe this. Like your vision went from black and white to color.

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So I don't think it's a lack of feeling, I think it's lack of ability to handle feelings that makes ppl come across as unemotional. Water signs drive into emotions like they are home, air signs need to intellectualize emotions, fire signs tend to fight emotions or explode with them and earth signs tend express emotions through gestures more than words they make their emotions tangable, something you can touch.

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I think that because my moon aspects all the elements, I can come across all these different ways.

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I think it's more of a matter of understanding how the person expresses emotions and what they fear regarding expressing those emotions.

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Something to think about.

Also I think sometimes people really do need another person to enliven their emotions, bring them to the surface so they can be discussed. There are times when people draw out such an incredible emotional response from me, I feel very different from my usual self...almost like that part was dormant until someone tapped it. And usually yes, those are fear-based emotions; dissolving the fear is the first step to my even becoming aware that there IS an emotion there.

posted August 06, 2015 12:46 AM            

I do think what helped me so much is something your already doing...your allowing yourself to see emotions through others eyes. Your comment regarding what you are doing with your husband? Brilliant!!
Your doing something so rare for a pisces moon, your intellectualizing his emotions so you can better understand him. He intellectualizes them and your wanting to understand him so your doing the same. Your not reacting to him emotionally your learning about him and what makes him tick...and he feels that and appreciates it. When we set ourselves aside and put others first we get back the love we are putting out. Most water moons would struggle so hard to even comprehend it's possible to do this.

posted August 06, 2015 06:59 AM              

This is what i have done all my life. And this is why its hard, frustrating and i am just tired bc i haven`t met any eyes that see where my emotions come from nor seeing emotions through my eyes, they always look and get fooled by the obvious. More and more now i have started to realise how much i detest shallow eyes and how ignorant they truly are. Wow i am just surprised at how much that passes in front of their eyes that goes unnoticed by them.

posted August 06, 2015 07:36 AM            

That said, the moment you turn to insults because you don't understand is what's truly ignorant and typically the point at which I stop listening. Because you don't understand does not mean that anything is wrong or that your way of feeling and expression is the only right way.

Now, would you like to be a bit more rational and get to the bottom of this?

posted August 06, 2015 07:51 AM            

You ain't getting a typical Taurus moon from me. There is more beyond the sign, there are aspects, houses and life experiences.

I am really sorry you have had experiences that made you feel how are you feeling.

Vent and put out your frustrations so you can feel better, but realize that the issue isn't in those other moons.
Look deep inside you and ask why are you really feeling this way? Do you understand from where these emotions come from? Do you understand and see yourself as you wish others to see it?

All moons no matter what sign have emotions but they have their very own unique ways of showing them or they choose to hide them.

posted August 06, 2015 07:51 AM              

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Insulting and calling basically 3/4 (at least half I would think) of the zodiac moons "ignorant" and "shallow" isn't very likely to get you anywhere with them.
I am one of these "unfeeling" moons. I'm not upset with you about your statements and I understand that you're frustrated.

That said, the moment you turn to insults because you don't understand is what's truly ignorant and typically the point at which I stop listening. Because you don't understand does not mean that anything is wrong or that your way of feeling and expression is the only right way.

Now, would you like to be a bit more rational and get to the bottom of this?

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posted August 06, 2015 07:53 AM            

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Originally posted by NYCdodger:
Not gonna lie, I also found this post to be a little insulting and insensitive. And this is coming from a Libra moon who has been dealing with "other peoples" (air element trait) crazy emotions all of my life while still trying to balance and maintain my own.

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My post?

If so. Oh well.
It's the truth as I see it and they have their truth as they see it.

posted August 06, 2015 07:58 AM              

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Originally posted by DopGang:
Insulting and calling basically 3/4 (at least half I would think) of the zodiac moons "ignorant" and "shallow" isn't very likely to get you anywhere with them.
I am one of these "unfeeling" moons. I'm not upset with you about your statements and I understand that you're frustrated.

That said, the moment you turn to insults because you don't understand is what's truly ignorant and typically the point at which I stop listening. Because you don't understand does not mean that anything is wrong or that your way of feeling and expression is the only right way.

Now, would you like to be a bit more rational and get to the bottom of this?

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