posted October 15, 2015 12:09 AM            

My dad told me, as he remembered but a lil bit forgot, I was born at around 1am-2am which in critical position between last degree in scorpio and first degree in sagittarius. My mom told me, she couldn't really remember the time, I was born at around 3am-4am which in capricorn position.

Some of my friends told me this:
- if people who never know me first, they will think that I am a serious, cold, cynical, and hard to be close with person, before they start to communicate with me.
- older people think that I am a responsible, smart, someone who can be depend/count on to, wise on my age, quiet person.
- Acquaintances will take it personal and get upset if I stay away for awhile, they think I ignore when I just need to focus with my life (some not so close pal will think this way too), although they know I am friendly, fun, and chill to be with.
- People describe me as a tomboy by how I dress. I love boots.

posted October 15, 2015 12:25 AM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Hmm.. Is your Jupiter in retrograde, or not? I have a few ideas..

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posted October 15, 2015 12:54 AM            

I would say Scorpio or Capricorn.

Scorpio would be my number 1 guess. Or, maybe Capricorn if that puts your Sun or Moon in the 8th house.

Do you have any planets in Scorpio or Capricorn?

Some of your definition actually does make me think of some traits my Dad has. He has Sun and his Ascendant in Sagittarius.

posted October 15, 2015 01:30 AM            

It could be 28 degree Sag with Saturn on the ascendant.

posted October 15, 2015 02:02 AM            

You're so pretty. Me think Sag

posted October 15, 2015 02:43 AM            

Actually, I could see your Ascendant being around 1 Degrees Capricorn. xD xD.. I'm really not sure. Could you put up a chart with your ascendant edited to the early part of Capricorn? (It'll help me see the other house placements in your chart better, without trying to visualize them. lol)

posted October 15, 2015 03:27 AM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Not really a happy childhood, but also not a really harsh one.. At some time, yes, I felt she was not really loving towards me (she once abused me -only me- with names and would turn to physical if she lost her tempers) but also no hate (because I can understand and forgive, when she realized it, she also apologized if lost tempers). She was quite detached and very active in household matters. She is quite discipline/strict too (it's what I felt since I have moon trine saturn too). But she knows how to give the best advice, knows how to run the house, and actually has a big heart.

She has cancer mars, aries moon early degree or pisces moon last degree (I don't know her birth time but prob aries moon).

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You have very youthful appearance and a big smile. That's Sag for sure. The nose is also Sag like. I'd say Saturn gives off that cautious vibe, plus you're a first de an Aqua so being more aloof is typical.

The way you describe your childhood sounds like Aries IC. It definitely doesn't sound Aqua or Pisces. Can you adjust your ascendant to your Saturn degrees?

posted October 15, 2015 02:48 PM            

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Originally posted by theunknown:
Well you have Aries moon. I was just basing your story but I don't know you. If the Pisces IC fits then that'd make more sense. The moon also indicates childhood and your moon conjunct Jupiter so your childhood might seem Arian. I have known some Cap rising and they dont look like you. You should put your pic back on. Very sag looking.

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Yeah, I think cap rising won't be dressed up like a tomboy often.. When I see MC-IC, it is close enough to Virgo-Pisces, although I'm not really like a virgo mc at work but I like to keep it clean, no food while working, no trash in the floor, wash your dirty hand before touch any of my papers but if it is yours no problem. lol.

Saturn conjunct asc is probably close enough to why other people see me as serious, cold, cynical, etc, before they really know me, but it makes me sad as my mars sits in 12th house probably it is why people who drawn to me have mars in taurus/cancer..

posted October 15, 2015 02:53 PM            

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Originally posted by ReadingTheStars95:
Hmm..

Actually, I could see your Ascendant being around 1 Degrees Capricorn. xD xD.. I'm really not sure. Could you put up a chart with your ascendant edited to the early part of Capricorn? (It'll help me see the other house placements in your chart better, without trying to visualize them. lol)

I'll think about this..

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Oooppss.. I missed to reply this. Sorry.. x.x

Here's if I put capricorn as asc

posted October 16, 2015 06:56 AM            

With Cap Asc for instance, Uranus would arch to conjunct the Asc at age 3.

Was there any significant thing that happened at that age? Perhaps involving your health (1st house) ?

The same planets Arched to square the MC/IC axis at age 4- Any significant move or relocation? Perhaps even a significant family structural change?

You can even go back and watch Jupiter/ Saturn transits throughout your life- with a proposed Asc.

Transit of Jupiter to the Asc/Dsc,MC/IC usually bring on positive change or expansion(sometimes even physical when on the Asc)

Transit of Saturn to the same points, usually bring a narrow perspective and challenges(sometimes when on the Asc they bring weight loss).

Saturn on the IC can bring upon a feeling of being unsupported or detached from home/family or your home environment etc.

When using the latter , rather work with the whole house system-because at-least you'll be in the ball park.

posted October 18, 2015 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Look at natal planets located in the 3rd, 12th,9th and 6th house and use the proposed natal angles to trace events in your life- for a possible time of birth confirmation.

With Cap Asc for instance, Uranus would arch to conjunct the Asc at age 3.

Was there any significant thing that happened at that age? Perhaps involving your health (1st house) ?

The same planets Arched to square the MC/IC axis at age 4- Any significant move or relocation? Perhaps even a significant family structural change?

You can even go back and watch Jupiter/ Saturn transits throughout your life- with a proposed Asc.

Transit of Jupiter to the Asc/Dsc,MC/IC usually bring on positive change or expansion(sometimes even physical when on the Asc)

Transit of Saturn to the same points, usually bring a narrow perspective and challenges(sometimes when on the Asc they bring weight loss).

Saturn on the IC can bring upon a feeling of being unsupported or detached from home/family or your home environment etc.

When using the latter , rather work with the whole house system-because at-least you'll be in the ball park.

If all else fails and you are still confused, there is always Kannon

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I hardly remember anything at age 3 or even 'till age 10 lol. I only remember when I had been bullied on my junior year, shall I trace that transit to know the asc?

posted October 18, 2015 03:33 PM            

But there are certain things that stand out in a person's life that are unique to the individual. Or unique to the environment that they are born under.

The theory behind chart rectification is that the transit/progressed planets, usually hit the sensitive areas of the person's chart when such things occur.

Use the whole house system and read the descriptions of the Sun/Moon in each and see if you relate.

posted October 18, 2015 04:28 PM            

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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I'm living away from my parents so I can not check my birth time through the paper which in my parent's house. I called my parent another day asked them my exact birth time. Funny thing was they couldn't find my birth time in the paper.

My dad told me, as he remembered but a lil bit forgot, I was born at around 1am-2am which in critical position between last degree in scorpio and first degree in sagittarius. My mom told me, she couldn't really remember the time, I was born at around 3am-4am which in capricorn position.

Some of my friends told me this:
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- if people who never know me first, they will think that I am a serious, cold, cynical, and hard to be close with person, before they start to communicate with me.

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Favors Saturn/Asc, Capricorn or Scorpio, but not Sagittarius.

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- older people think that I am a responsible, smart, someone who can be depend/count on to, wise on my age, quiet person.

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Again favors Saturn/Asc, Capricorn, or Scorpio possibly, but not Sagittarius.

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- Acquaintances will take it personal and get upset if I stay away for awhile, they think I ignore when I just need to focus with my life (some not so close pal will think this way too), although they know I am friendly, fun, and chill to be with.

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Same as above.

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- People describe me as a tomboy by how I dress. I love boots.

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This is not a major consideration and can be explained by 3 planets in Sagittarius, possibly in the 1st house, or by Moon/Jupiter in Aries.

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I'll post my picture, but will turn it down quickly. I'm quite a shy person actually. lol.

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This pretty much eliminates Sagittarius, since you already have Moon conjunct Jupiter. Asc in Sag would mean you most definitely would not be shy -- unless Saturn is in tightest aspect with your Asc, which is hard to do here without both Mars and Uranus also being there, at least in declination. Not likely. Most likely you have a (-) feminine sign, water or earth, on your Asc.

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Do you think I match to scorpio ascendant or sagittarius ascendant or capricorn ascendant?

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Based on what you've given here with the presumed time ranges given by your parents, Scorpio with planets in Sag in 1st house is most likely, and secondly Asc in Cap.

I have reviewed all information you've offered up here, but it is not enough for anyone to know your Asc. I was too late to see your picture, but if you'd like to email it to me, I'll take a look and keep it confidential. kannonmcafee [at] gmail ... You can also include full birth data so I can give you a reasonable notion.

posted October 19, 2015 01:26 AM            

Aqua sun with Sag rising (and Sag moon)

Aqua sun, Libra moon, Sag rising