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HCtheQueenOfWands
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posted December 16, 2015 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HCtheQueenOfWands     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all, i am her friend. I have her tablet and phone because she doesnt want her stepdad to find her. She has told me 2 post this.

She had a misunderstanding with her bf. Who told her "i want nothing from you anymore, but talk to me when your in a better mood". She took that very heavy, knowing the girl has bipolar & borderline. She ran away to new york to go find her abusive ex. She's really alone and desperate, it worries me.

Based on charts, should she work out things with current bf and come back to Ottawa, or continue to find her abusive ex?

Her & abusive ex:

Or her and J?


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Cappi112
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posted December 16, 2015 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leaving astrology out of it - I'm concerned for her safety if she ran to her abusive ex, and so should you be!

Get help. Get her back to Ottowa. These kinds of stories are never EVER good, and wasting time drawing up a chart in circumstances like this is pretty lame.

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appleberry
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posted December 16, 2015 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She can only find the answer inside herself and it is found in self-control and emotional maturity. It's like addiction. No one can help until they choose to change themselves.

Posting the chart seems like a desperate plea to ask others to help change him and their relationship. Only one change needs to happen. She needs to let go of him emotionally and that requires... Emotional maturity and self control. Life gives you these circumstances so that you can practice and grow. That's the only reason this guy is in her life... He's not 'the one'... He's simply there to force her to grow and force her spirit to evolve.

And if it is a friend who is posting on her behalf, which I'm not so sure of, then that person is nothing more than en enabler... Just like someone who gives drugs to an addict... Part of the problem. Send the police instead. Or at least the contact information and address of a women's help center.

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malicefey
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posted December 16, 2015 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for malicefey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cappi112:
Leaving astrology out of it - I'm concerned for her safety if she ran to her abusive ex, and so should you be!

Get help. Get her back to Ottowa. These kinds of stories are never EVER good, and wasting time drawing up a chart in circumstances like this is pretty lame.


Couldn't agree with you more.

Get help, please, for the sake of her well-being and safety!

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HCtheQueenOfWands
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posted December 16, 2015 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HCtheQueenOfWands     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by appleberry:
She can only find the answer inside herself and it is found in self-control and emotional maturity. It's like addiction. No one can help until they choose to change themselves.

Posting the chart seems like a desperate plea to ask others to help change him and their relationship. Only one change needs to happen. She needs to let go of him emotionally and that requires... Emotional maturity and self control. Life gives you these circumstances so that you can practice and grow. That's the only reason this guy is in her life... He's not 'the one'... He's simply there to force her to grow and force her spirit to evolve.

And if it is a friend who is posting on her behalf, which I'm not so sure of, then that person is nothing more than en enabler... Just like someone who gives drugs to an addict... Part of the problem. Send the police instead.


Are talking about the abusive ex or bf? Because every time there is a problem with someone, she always thinks about going back to the abuser (first 2 charts)..

And yes it's a friend

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Cappi112
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posted December 16, 2015 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cappi112     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, isn't this interpersonal?

Something confusing about this in general.

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DopGang
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posted December 16, 2015 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cappi112:
Also, isn't this interpersonal?

Something confusing about this in general.


Agree.
Also agree with your other posts.

Something is suspicious here to the point that I'm not sure that I fully believe this story.

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HCtheQueenOfWands
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posted December 16, 2015 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HCtheQueenOfWands     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cappi112:
Also, isn't this interpersonal?

Something confusing about this in general.


sorry I don't know how this website works.

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Belage
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posted December 17, 2015 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes it is as though people are afraid to say what they really think in this forum. Am I the only one who had been thinking that HC is in need of help and I don't mean astrological help?

i see this as an unfortunate example of how astrology can be misused as a tool and can aggravate mental illness.

I hope she gets help before it's too late. If you are truly her friend as you claim to be, tell her to stop looking for astrology to tell her what is obvious to anyone with a smidgen of common sense. Sorry, I am unable to say this nicely because sometimes honesty is going to cut, like a surgeon has to cut out the cancer. In what universe, in what world, is it okay to go back to an abusive partner? Get help before it's too late.

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hannaramaa
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posted December 17, 2015 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Belage:
Sometimes it is as though people are afraid to say what they really think in this forum. Am I the only one who had been thinking that HC is in need of help and I don't mean astrological help?

i see this as an unfortunate example of how astrology can be misused as a tool and can aggravate mental illness.

I hope she gets help before it's too late. If you are truly her friend as you claim to be, tell her to stop looking for astrology to tell her what is obvious to anyone with a smidgen of common sense. Sorry, I am unable to say this nicely because sometimes honesty is going to cut, like a surgeon has to cut out the cancer. In what universe, in what world, is it okay to go back to an abusive partner? Get help before it's too late.


She has Borderline. Part of that is seeking attention in (sometimes) drastic and manipulative ways.

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Belage
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posted December 17, 2015 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
She has Borderline. Part of that is seeking attention in (sometimes) drastic and manipulative ways.

I agree. Personally, I think it's more than Borderline. Unfortunately, this forum sometimes enables this type of issues because everyone ignores the white elephant in the room.

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DopGang
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posted December 17, 2015 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DopGang     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
She has Borderline. Part of that is seeking attention in (sometimes) drastic and manipulative ways.

That's what I suspected.
So I wasn't going to play along. Especially since all she's done is ask about love and synastry, which is fine but this seems to just be another, very dramatic, way of asking about synastry again. As if to get a bunch of immediate responses.

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