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Topic: What's the most effective way to deal with hard Pluto transits?
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Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1397 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 23, 2016 09:53 PM
I am currently dealing with a couple of hard and long transits and I want some answers if anyone would be so kind to help me. Uranus and Pluto have been on my moon for awhile and I just want to know when I will say daylight again, IP: Logged |
XzaultaX Knowflake Posts: 153 From: Your mind Registered: Feb 2016
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posted June 23, 2016 09:55 PM
Go with the flow~------------------ ♏️- AC ⊙☿♇ Rising ♏️- Sun ♉️- Moon IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1397 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 23, 2016 10:00 PM
I'm trying.I feel like I'm suffocating and everthing around me is caving in. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1397 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 24, 2016 02:13 PM
bump*IP: Logged |
visions Knowflake Posts: 352 From: france Registered: Feb 2010
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posted June 24, 2016 02:21 PM
you can do nothing...just retile the whole hell...the only relief i can bring to you is taht you are not the only who did it!IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 24, 2016 02:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by XzaultaX: Go with the flow~
Agreed--Pluto is trying to destroy inauthentic things you're holding onto. You can either fight it, which will make the pain worse and make the suffering take longer, or you can let go of those things on your own. Every one us us has had Pluto just grinding and grinding back and forth through Capriciorn for a long time. Unless you team up with Pluto, you will lose and Pluto will win. In your case, you have to let go of your ideas/what you hold dear about higher education and its role in your life. (9th house, in Placidus system)....if I use whole sign system, the Pluto punishment is in your 8th. You have to let go of wishing your dad were different or that you had the power to make him different. Your Libra moon, getting beaten up here by Pluto square, wishes that life was fair. You want your dad to be fair, your schooling situation to be fair. Let go and just understand that life is not fair. (Easier said than done!!!) Other tips: -lean into your North Node--yours is in the 7th house in early Sag--if you do things dictated by your NN (travel, keeping a great sense of humor, being honest and candid, studying philosophy....with a partner outside of your family of birth, either a collaborator/business partner or a romantic partner), some of the pain Pluto is causing will lift -I read your other thread, and it's interesting to me to look at your 6th and 7th houses....looks like moving out of your family home us a GREAT IDEA. It's okay to love them and resent them and be close to them and get space from them, all at the same time. You have this heavy 6th house daily service stuff, but your 7th, with NN and Mars, shows that having close work partnerships and/or romantic partnership outside of your family will bring you expansive, fiery energy, helping release you from family of origin issues and burdens -look forward to your Saturn return in Aqua, which will hit your Saturn-Moon air trine! That transit will bring your Libra moon some of the inspiration and justice it seeks---the project of that Saturn return will be to find freedom. Of course, at that time tSaturn will be square your natal Pluto. You'll be under great pressure NOT to allow yourself the freedom and inspiration you need. Let go of that pressure. Wishing you happiness. IP: Logged |
ilunatique Knowflake Posts: 506 From: neptune Registered: Jun 2014
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posted June 24, 2016 02:57 PM
You are a scorpio, no wonder. Im a fella, I have a Sun cj Pluto. Keep going through Hell. Keep burning. You will raise stronger, like the Phoenix. This life you have to keep on burning and morph each time in something better.
I have faith in you,
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Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 34 From: Registered: Jun 2016
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posted June 24, 2016 03:00 PM
For North Node instructions---I love the Jan Spiller book Astrology of the Soul. Doing the North Node recommendations by sign and house I think really helps create positive momentum when outer planet transits are trying to crush youIP: Logged |
Sulkyarcher Knowflake Posts: 447 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted June 24, 2016 03:35 PM
All I did was suffer through my Pluto transit. No good advice from me.IP: Logged |
Novabronte Knowflake Posts: 93 From: EU Registered: Nov 2015
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posted June 24, 2016 04:47 PM
Pluto is furrowing through my IC ...this is a third year of feeling this, and for a while it was going back and forth right over it as if wanting to make sure the hole is DEEP ENOUGH... well he is thorough ...ughI agree with Lucia23 - focussing on North Node themes helps. When every door you know closes, the one you are left with is always the North Node door. Ride the storm ! Like a surfer:-) IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Knowflake Posts: 1535 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted June 24, 2016 05:18 PM
Always a good question, and there's probably never a single good answer.I'm of the view that Pluto is evident in the strongest urges of the unconscious made manifest at the points of conflict, change, and disempowerment. So these experiences inform our conscious minds of the ways in which we can develop strength through allowing fundamental change of our personalities. It is our personalities which cling to a version of ourselves and of reality that creates a security blanket that becomes cement. Yanmorg, Pluto [21S03] in mid-Cap conjunct and parallel your natal Neptune [21S29], and separating for now from its conjunction to natal Uranus; it is parallel your natal Mars [20S57]. This actually can be quite an empowering time for you, especially as Pluto moves deeper southward to its parallel with your Neptune over the next year or two. In your case, you may be able to get the benefits of both physical and spiritual rejuvenation in one of those uncommon opportunities that brings them together but do not expect it to come on the comfortable and familiar terms of your current life. Transiting natal Neptune, its about reforming how you see the world, your beliefs, etc, mostly by giving you a greater view to compose a bigger, clearer picture of how things work. Make sure you don't leave it merely abstract, but put it into practice. But the difficult part is with Uranus, which can seem to deliver shocking, revolutionary, even unnecessary events of change - but which you cannot understand as truly just your own, but part of a generational and societal change we all must endure and play a positive part in some small way. Transiting natal Mars, of course, it is an empowerment of the more raw, even physical sort that may occasionally have you feeling more forceful, taking control, pushing harder. Not a bad thing, especially if - as a Moon-in-Libra personality - you've been too passive or spent too much time pleasing others. Pluto's is finishing its transit the last couple years parallel your natal N.Node. Its transit to your natal Moon has not yet begun really. You were given just a nip back in spring. This is a lot of Pluto effect. In many ways the simpler answer from XzaultaX is right - [b/]learn to go with the flow[/b]. If you truly learn this now, then With 6-8 points in fixed signs, change is not easy for you. Just keep telling yourself that change is the only constant in the universe, and that the unknown holds all the best things in store for us, since the future truly is unknown. Breath deeply and slowly.
Remind yourself change is the only constant. Remind yourself that its not personal. ------------------ The Declinations Guy Rising Sign Descriptions | Expert rectification ♈ ♉ ♊ ♋ ♌ ♍ ♎ ♏ ♐ ♑ ♒ ♓ IP: Logged |
sis Knowflake Posts: 466 From: Registered: Mar 2011
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posted June 25, 2016 06:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by ilunatique: You are a scorpio, no wonder. Im a fella, I have a Sun cj Pluto. Keep going through Hell. Keep burning. You will raise stronger, like the Phoenix. This life you have to keep on burning and morph each time in something better.
I have faith in you,
I agree. Couldn't have said it better. I have been going through harsh Pluto transits since 2010... Pluto conjuncted my ascendant, sun, mercury...activated all of my natal Pluto squares to these planets...Yeah it was hard, very hard.. And now conjuncting my venus... activating my natal venus pluto square. And I am going through a very typical Pluto Venus love affair.. But I guess do to previous trs Pluto experiences, tought me how to deal with Pluto energy- acceptance.. I also have trs.Pluto opposite n.Saturn, square n.Pluto going on... And I am ok. Maybe because trs. Jupiter is strong in my chart for the time being I can see the silver linings in every bad sitituation I am in... But when Pluto first hit me especialy the mercury conjunction I went through a huge mental crisis...But I survived.. And now I see that without those identity, mental crises I would not be who I am know. A very strong, powerful person. As I said before now its all about Venus.. And I am quite comfortable with the energy. Becuase I know that whatever happens it will help me to release what does not serve me and heal me... I can see that not too far away, you will experience trs.Jupiter conjunctions.. I believe Jupiter will give you the light
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 8489 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 25, 2016 06:52 AM
I'm not okay. I've been hell for at least six years as well, and my mother is currently undergoing it, too. I've been scared with good reason, it turns out. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18059 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 25, 2016 09:09 AM
^ How to deal with Pluto? Accept that we are going to die. Accept impermanence, don't fear it. Usually the worst Plutonian feelings are rooted in fear, worry, anxiety. So consider...what exactly are your fears? Can you afford to lay to rest any of your habitual fears? What resources can you find, to help you allay those fears? Usually fear is connected to attachment: * We are attached to someone and fear losing them. * We are attached to a vision of how we want life to be, and fear that it won't happen. * We are attached to our own egos and fear changes that will make us feel "not like ourselves" anymore. * We are attached to certain goals. The more we can recognize our attachments and let them go, leave it up to the Universe, and accept whatever happens as if we had chosen it (to quote Eckhart Tolle), the less fearful our inner environment becomes. Some fear is unavoidable, it seems. In certain Plutonian moods, my mind becomes a blur and starts doing weird stuff like thinking it's crucially important to make sure something trivial gets done right...I am warping the importance of things, "Plutonifying" them just because I'm thinking of them while simultaneously feeling Plutonic. At this point when I feel Pluto (often at night, especially when the transiting ASC is on my sun, which is conjunct transiting Pluto), I focus on keeping my mind clear. I try not to think of my fears then...it's like a waking meditation where you just notice the fears and let them pass through, resuming your stillness and blank inner space. Staying intently focused on the present moment, broadening awareness of the present. Certain times of day are better for dealing with my fears than others. Certain transits are more conducive to taking action on the things I fear...so I try and avail myself of those opportunities. Not that I get an ephemeris and plan; I can usually just feel a shift in the energy of the day. It's best to deal with Pluto on that deep gut level. You can't get away with faking anything so when your gut tells you it's a good time to do something or a bad time, try and honor that feeling at least. Don't punish yourself or criticize yourself for having "special needs" when Pluto is demanding more from you. Make the most of the times when you feel calm and strong, don't let those opportunities go to waste, it will be healing and make the experience more transformative in a good way. Sometimes the best way to make the most of it is to simply deepen the experience of calm by indulging it, going for walks in nature alone, listening to music, building a reservoir of calm. ^^ This is a lecture I am mainly giving myself. (Sorry to give unsolicited advice, I mean.) IP: Logged |
Yanmorg Knowflake Posts: 1397 From: Registered: Feb 2013
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posted June 25, 2016 05:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: ^ How to deal with Pluto? Accept that we are going to die. Accept impermanence, don't fear it. Usually the worst Plutonian feelings are rooted in fear, worry, anxiety. So consider...what exactly are your fears? Can you afford to lay to rest any of your habitual fears? What resources can you find, to help you allay those fears? Usually fear is connected to attachment: * We are attached to someone and fear losing them. * We are attached to a vision of how we want life to be, and fear that it won't happen. * We are attached to our own egos and fear changes that will make us feel "not like ourselves" anymore. * We are attached to certain goals. The more we can recognize our attachments and let them go, leave it up to the Universe, and accept whatever happens as if we had chosen it (to quote Eckhart Tolle), the less fearful our inner environment becomes. Some fear is unavoidable, it seems. In certain Plutonian moods, my mind becomes a blur and starts doing weird stuff like thinking it's crucially important to make sure something trivial gets done right...I am warping the importance of things, "Plutonifying" them just because I'm thinking of them while simultaneously feeling Plutonic. At this point when I feel Pluto (often at night, especially when the transiting ASC is on my sun, which is conjunct transiting Pluto), I focus on keeping my mind clear. I try not to think of my fears then...it's like a waking meditation where you just notice the fears and let them pass through, resuming your stillness and blank inner space. Staying intently focused on the present moment, broadening awareness of the present. Certain times of day are better for dealing with my fears than others. Certain transits are more conducive to taking action on the things I fear...so I try and avail myself of those opportunities. Not that I get an ephemeris and plan; I can usually just feel a shift in the energy of the day. It's best to deal with Pluto on that deep gut level. You can't get away with faking anything so when your gut tells you it's a good time to do something or a bad time, try and honor that feeling at least. Don't punish yourself or criticize yourself for having "special needs" when Pluto is demanding more from you. Make the most of the times when you feel calm and strong, don't let those opportunities go to waste, it will be healing and make the experience more transformative in a good way. Sometimes the best way to make the most of it is to simply deepen the experience of calm by indulging it, going for walks in nature alone, listening to music, building a reservoir of calm. ^^ This is a lecture I am mainly giving myself. (Sorry to give unsolicited advice, I mean.)
I love it. Thank you. I'm just reading everyone's replies and trying to digest it all. Deep stuff. I feel everything you're saying. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 18059 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 25, 2016 08:19 PM
Thank you, I'm glad. Best wishes IP: Logged | |