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Topic: Why Aquarius(Moon in particular) won't open up
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SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1152 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted May 26, 2021 09:52 PM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 03:01 AM
I suppose there’s a fundamental difference between being over-sensitive and jaded. One is a loaded reaction, the other a defense-mechanism; the line drawn is Rationalization. FEAR = False Evidence Appearing Real I’d imagine people understand you more than you realize, or in ways you don’t want to be seen as. Maybe it bothers you to be exposed having certain individualized traits (the accountability), assuming most direct criticism has only ever been generalization of apparent social failures in the human condition—a personal cop-out—to never letting terms touch a fragile sense of self, to Impersonalize these transactions, for sake of idealism yet in isolation. How to be more vulnerable? Learn to identify your ego (narratives projected onto others) and counteract the story. If the issue repeats, you might constantly (internally) criticize, size-up, define, judge and misunderstand anyone outside and thus by nature of the subconscious mind anticipate that same attitude is applied to you, smallest ego-chamber to live in. Inform yourself you “don’t quite fully know” instead, yet become readily curious to meet your own missed understanding any chance one gets. Open-minded. Mirroring. Show up. Presence. Purpose. OP, finding an intensive, high-minded therapist could be helpful if you actually want the assistance to reprogram or socialize (challenge) old fixed scripts. IP: Logged |
SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1152 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 03:39 AM
So you’re saying Im jaded? I don’t get how you would know that people understand me though? That doesn’t make any sense. In any case I can’t really understand what you’re saying. But just to clear up any possible misunderstandings from what Im reading here, Ive never said anyone I know personally day those things about me. People don’t tell me Im detached. Im talking about how people in astrology talk about other Aquarius moons and giving you some insight on how they perceive things.
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 03:42 AM
Would you mind unquoting me? I prefer to go unquoted on this forum (because I usually edit my grammar), but am here to break more down with you if you’d like a chat. Over-sensitive vs Jaded. Stimulation. Either way, I’m saying there’s an underlying belief that’s been informing (creating) reality, to be at odds with—the struggle ✊🏽, used for meaning (non/identification). Aquarian Dogma. What you tell yourself becomes how things are. You could change your mind about it all. Edit: Oh, reading the second part of your response, that you’ve been addressing the shadow quality of Aquarius Moons as a group rather than venting about personal experience. My choice to address with “You” is tongue in cheek. “I don’t get how you would know that people understand me though?” Because I can understand (and speak for) the truth, the whole. The only thing that ever separates You and I is Ego; other wise We, in fact, are together. My Mom’s an Aquarius Moon. My lover is an Aquarius Moon. My best friend is an Aquarius Moon. My Sun/Moon midpoint is Aquarius; my 8th House Moon is 30° Capricorn conjunct Uranus and Neptune. My Saturn is in Aquarius, and my Sun is 0° Pisces, Feb 18th.
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SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1152 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 04:31 AM
@vansioCan you please explain in simple terms. I don’t understand what you’re trying to say. I think Ive spoken to you before, and I think you also sort of acted like you knew my own inner psychology back then too. Im not sure what makes you think you can really read me without even knowing me personally, because I can’t sit here and tell how people truly are on here or even in person. I can try to understand someone but for me to say I know how they feel or think would be wrong. If that’s what you’re saying because again Im not really sure what you’re getting at. You may know a lot of Aquarius moons but that doesn’t mean you know me. Yes we’re all humans with feelings but are you saying everyone is the same? I cant say you’re right or wrong maybe you’re right. But I just was venting my own frustrations and flaws as well as asking for any help in learning to not be hurt when someone reacts to me a certain way. It feels like you’re not really giving me any tangible advice but just assessing me. You said I should seek a psychologist but it’s not that easy. To find a good psychologist that takes money. How am I going to do that? Things in life aren’t just black and white. You said you know the truth but How? No one knows the truth. Buddha even said himself a wise man knows that he doesn’t know anything. IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 04:35 AM
I understand that what I’ve written can be read as harsh. I mean no harm, just laying complexity on the table to explore, i.e. defense mechanism, how ego functions. don’t think you and I have ever interacted before Ok, in simple terms... let me read back over your original sentiment so I can appeal to deeper feels around this rather than only address the bigger picture. Give me about thirty minutes to reply. I want to give you something (make the connection) but will let the chance rest upon my intuition and heart, not logic. IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 1158 From: Pluto Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2021 04:46 AM
When people are trying to get to know you, then that is their way of trying to understand you. You have the right to put up walls, but when you do this, people interpret this as a lack of interest in forming a friendship or romantic relationship. Most people have walls up at least in the early stages of getting to know someone, but as time passes these walls gradually come down. Most people are willing to be patient for the walls to gradually come down, but if your walls remain rigidly highly regardless of how much time has passed, then people will move on. When you have your walls up, you are refusing to give back emotionally to another person. If his person is bending over backwards to get to know you and you are remaining closed off, then they will be tired of this one-sided interaction and move on. One-sided "relationships" make people feel you have zero interest in them so they don't see the point in trying to get to know someone who doesn't want to be around them. A little trick is to tell them something about yourself that isn't some deep dark secret. This makes them feel like you are opening up without having to discuss more emotionally-charged topics. For example, you should talk about something you are passionate about. This reveals so much about you without you having to talk about childhood traumas or anything too emotional. Unless your passion is kicking small puppies, people are going to be impressed by whatever you are passionate about because your face will light up. Passion is attractive and makes people want to get to know you more. Lastly, you cannot control what others think of you. Don't worry about it. Be yourself and those who are still interested will gravitate towards you and those who aren't will move on. Being yourself is the best filtering tool you possess, so use it! IP: Logged |
SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1152 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 04:57 AM
@astraI actually have never had anyone genuinely interested in getting to know me. I have no problems talking to people really if they are trying to talk with me. But people don’t. I don’t know why. Ive tried befriending people and then they end up not interested in me like Im boring or something. I am also very introverted and shy and for some reason ppl don’t approach me. I feel like the people others are meeting must be very different from who Im meeting. I ask people what they like and stuff like that but no one asks me my dreams and aspirations. And when I do talk about them ppl just put a damper on them and rain on my parade. I really wish people seemed more interested in me, but I go unnoticed. IP: Logged |
SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1152 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 04:57 AM
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1734 From: the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 04:58 AM
Simple terms.However you are treated [by others] is a reflection of how you are treating yourself. The way this works: Say someone is abusing me, by allowing it, or engaging in it, I am actually abusing myself. Say others are misunderstanding me, there is something I sincerely don’t yet understand about my own behavior, in this particular circumstance. Even if it’s just how I treat myself when facing an unknown outcome. To treat myself with Misunderstanding might mean: rejecting myself (or others) or disconnecting from myself (or others) rather than treating patience with understanding, support, com-passion and the feeling of acceptance of myself as-is, no matter who. Advocating for understanding. If I feel others are judging me, I am judging myself, through their eyes. Say someone is ignoring me, I must also be ignoring the side of myself that feels neglected—why else would I care to notice? (The Conditions are a moment to moment experience.) Say others don’t approach me it ways I would like to be approached—likely, I have yet to approach myself in these desired ways and in turn be ready to approach others with it first honorably and stably. Leaving it up to others to do what I won’t, and disappointed with myself/them. We receive what we give. Hence why Love is always advocated as best choice. I could think of more various examples but the range of therapeutic application is long. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4361 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2021 05:09 AM
Emotionally, Aquarius is a weird bird. The symbol of Aquarius is The Water Bearer. It is also the 11th sign of the zodiac, the sign that symbolizes The People. Aquariue carries water aka emotions of The People. But he remains untouched by the water/emotions. They are very good at leadership positions where They can five fiery speech about "the people". I have known too many Aquarius who can shed tears when they talk about revolutions or mass uprisings or when they watch movies about them. But they will never shed a tear for a friend or a loved one. It can be maddening for those who are close to them. But if there is willingness to overcome this natural coldness in emotions, it can be overcome. ASTROLOGICAL CHART IS NOT DESTINY. It is just a blueprint, and we are not slaves to it. The ability to feel emotions without being destroyed by them requires maturity and emotional strengths. Most Aquarius would benefit from therapeutic processes and journey.
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SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1152 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 05:21 AM
That’s not true. I definitely cry for a loved one.
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 4361 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2021 05:27 AM
Wow. I noticed you deleted your OP after my post. My post was not meant to trigger any such reaction in you. I can delete my post if it makes you feel better. IP: Logged |
SoulOfABird Knowflake Posts: 1152 From: California Registered: Sep 2017
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posted May 27, 2021 05:44 AM
@BelageNo it’s okay it wasn’t because of you. I just think it was a mistake for me to make this post. And I can’t delete it so that’s all I can do for now IP: Logged |
Dumuzi Knowflake Posts: 3547 From: Registered: Oct 2018
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posted May 27, 2021 09:27 AM
i started reading what you wrote last night, but since it's gone now... well it's interesting honestly because you kind of demonstrated the walls in this threadi know for you they come from feeling misunderstood when you do open up to some degree, and that shuts you down, but you know sometimes not being understood initially can lead to discussions where you are by the end of it it's a matter of putting that effort in and pushing forward instead of pulling back when you meet that obstacle with other people i think maybe it's your pisces placements at play here to some degree and having your moon on an angle that add to this for you because you seem very sensitive to me and i know people who are sensitive can close themselves off as a form of self protection also i think people don't look at the humanitarian side of aquarius/uranus as empathetic and caring because there can be walls or detachment but detachment and boundaries can be good when you're caring for/helping people the objectivity it provides allows for care/help in a way someone too personally affected can't provide and comes from a place of self preservation not calculated coldness anyway i just wanted to say i think it's a bit of a shame that you got rid of what seemed like an insightful post from what i was able to read of it, but i know from our previous talks you shut down a bit when you feel misunderstood the thing with vulnerability and openness is that they're good in spite of the misunderstandings and ******** because when you do come across someone who does get it you're available for authentic interaction anyway hope this doesnt put you off of speaking from that same place in the future IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5607 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 27, 2021 09:50 AM
We do open up it just takes us a while It depends on other things like the aspects to our Moon. And also depends on the other person. We aren't going to be open with everyone.
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5607 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 27, 2021 10:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: Emotionally, Aquarius is a weird bird. The symbol of Aquarius is The Water Bearer. It is also the 11th sign of the zodiac, the sign that symbolizes The People. Aquariue carries water aka emotions of The People. But he remains untouched by the water/emotions. They are very good at leadership positions where They can five fiery speech about "the people". I have known too many Aquarius who can shed tears when they talk about revolutions or mass uprisings or when they watch movies about them. But they will never shed a tear for a friend or a loved one. It can be maddening for those who are close to them. But if there is willingness to overcome this natural coldness in emotions, it can be overcome. ASTROLOGICAL CHART IS NOT DESTINY. It is just a blueprint, and we are not slaves to it. The ability to feel emotions without being destroyed by them requires maturity and emotional strengths. Most Aquarius would benefit from therapeutic processes and journey.
It's true that we care about the people. But it's not true that we don't cry over friends or love one's. It really depends on several things. We may not show our emotions in public but we will cry in private. I actually did cry in front of a friend once. But this is someone that I've known for awhile and actually care about. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4361 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2021 11:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by SoulOfABird: @BelageNo it’s okay it wasn’t because of you. I just think it was a mistake for me to make this post. And I can’t delete it so that’s all I can do for now
I feel better, thanks for clarifying. I seriously didn't mean to trigger you or anyone. That is not the meaning of astrology for me. And I do apologize for using the term "never" when I formulate an opinion in astrology. Never does not belong in astrological opinions. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4361 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2021 11:31 AM
quote: posted by ChildofVenus: We do open up it just takes us a while It depends on other things like the aspects to our Moon. And also depends on the other person. We aren't going to be open with everyone.
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: It's true that we care about the people. But it's not true that we don't cry over friends or love one's. It really depends on several things. We may not show our emotions in public but we will cry in private. I actually did cry in front of a friend once. But this is someone that I've known for awhile and actually care about.
The love of my life is an Aquarius man with 3 personal planets in Aquarius. I was also married to an Aquarius man. My son is Aquarius rising. Needless to say, I love Aquarius. Perhaps it is my own limitations in getting through to them that has colored my opinion of their emotions. I am happy to hear from them how they really are. IP: Logged |
Belage Knowflake Posts: 4361 From: USA Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 27, 2021 11:34 AM
The late Princess Diana was Aquarius moon. She does not fit the stereotype. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5607 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 27, 2021 12:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by Belage: The late Princess Diana was Aquarius moon. She does not fit the stereotype.
As an Aquarius Moon I love and relate to her so much. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 1006 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 27, 2021 01:16 PM
I think your other aspects are giving you that sensitivity what makes hard to connect. Moon isn’t fully responsible for interactions. Pisces and 12th/1st house have more to do with these problems. Air moons are actually considered to be more extroverted moons and good at communicating. I wouldn’t blame Aqua moon for that. Aqua are known for an ability don’t care much about the other opinions and do their own things. However, if the other part of your chart makes you introverted and sensitive... Majority of people are into themselves, and many of them aren’t interested to get to know somebody unless they see benefits or very social. Introverts aren’t meant to be understood. We just try to find some common ground with people sometimes. This is damnation of Air moons: we’re wired to communicate, but in the same time we appear too detached for people to relate to us. I see it was deleted so it might be not really on the subject already.
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