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Topic: Short fuse and impatience in a birth chart
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charlie
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posted December 04, 2016 01:33 AM
  
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colorful butterfly
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posted December 04, 2016 02:49 AM
Depends on the situation, in love relations I can have tolerence but I have very little patience. I'm not sure what aspects are for this but I've been told in my chart I can make fast decisions where others may not move as quickly. For short temper , I have venus and sun in the 10th. The 10th house gives my sun and venus a capricorn vibe but sun with venus can give a short temper as well. Say I meet a guy who seems to play games or just does things that appear that way. I don't have much patience for and tend to get irritated when I call it out and they try to give me a run around or I just let them go. Ex: dated a guy who would see me but seemed he wanted a call girl. I stated very early on that I was not going to be that type of chick, that I expected to go out and looking to see where things went. He made plans but couldn't keep them due to a logical reason.I said something about seeing him anyway that night as I saw this as a sign of trying. He could not see me due to something he had to take care of. Ok, that all was cool , he threw things back in my face about another reason was because he didn't want to hear my mouth. Tolerence. I ignored this because he agreed to those terms why complain? The next day, he did not text me at all as he usually does, I've explained before I am not into bothering someone or chasing a man down. So trying to be logical I thought maybe something happened and O should care to check on him. His response was he was ok but why did I ask. So, I said because I haven't heard from you. He told me I thought thats why you asked and I'm not going to text you first, thats what I'm not going to do. So I said , playing games in which it escoladed from there. I quit talking to him. He later asked about my plans on my next day off, so Intold him I was going to be doing my school work. The next day he txt me at about 8, than about 9. I woke up at 10 because I did my homework the night before thinking he wanted to go out later that day since he worked during the day. He told me when I text him after I woke up that he was going to take me to breakfast but since I wasn't awake he already ate then wanted me to come over, I was like I thought you were at work in which he responded no more job. I still told him no. After not speaking for awhile he asked me to see him and I said if you would like to go out I'd really like that. He proceeded to tell me how I wasn't compromiseing. We had been out once since I had meet him in an off and on again 9 months. I don't see how this is me not compromising, whereas we did what he wanted magority of the time. Compromise is about doing things each other wants to do to fulfill each others needs. He responded as I'm tired of this don't ever contact me again. I granted him his wish. Deleted and don't plan on contacting him ever again.... Oh, and I was trying to twist things to keep him from getting his needs met. That was original, I think he had me mixed up with some other girl or something. He's acused me of being bipolar, childish etc. I'm not sure what goes on with him but I wish him well with all that and hope he finds his call girl... Tolerent in that I have the same flip side, impatient as I'm not waiting for him to what he agreed to. Either he is that guy or he is not hence the breakups. Each time he said he would, each time he failed to keep his word. Either he would get mad and break up so he wouldn't have to, act like an ass so I would or just other manipulative bs that I do not have time for. If I wanted just a booty call I have better options than someone who is always trying to create unsisary drama. Oh and I like to argue since I didn't just do like he said to do as if I'm not allowed to have my own mind. That's positively prime evil. Never apologizes or has anything nice to say. Just criticism and lude behavior. When I'm with him, he is a really great guy but when we were apart he acts that way. My guess is he is one of those guys you just have to be with all the time or he gets moody. IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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posted December 04, 2016 03:52 AM
Colorful butterfly, what are your other placements? I've never heard of Venus adding a short fuse, it's usually more on the charming, pleasure seeking route. Mars/Aries is impulsive and hot tempered.
Scorpio I think can have a short fuse if combined with mars/Uranus or Aries, I know quit a few guys with Scorpio rising with Pluto conj the ASC and they are very intense and volcanic, can get heated pretty quickly and if that's combined with any Neptune/Pisces influence, I think it could add a softer side but will heighten the emotional response and sensitive reaction. Also, mars square the sun will give a very quick temper and defensiveness, same with moon square mars which can be so snappy and volatile. Fire signs in general are volatile and water signs too can be emotionally extreme, so when in tension I think a short temper can emerge, especially with prominent planets/aspects I named above. Same would apply with parallels, close parallels to mars especially, Pluto and Uranus can be a cranky and unpredictable planet at times too. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted December 04, 2016 12:27 PM
Mars/Uranus/Pluto often add a short fuse to the planets they touch.But for differing reasons.Mars hates to be restricted or muted. These aspects want to be the most expressive. Uranus doe not get angry. But often desires the freedom to go their way.It can be a more rebellious/defiance aspect than one of pure anger. Pluto is rage.With Pluto the momentum is very much LARGE.And it is likely that the individual will want more than just expression of their will.But a complete
submission(force or otherwise) So with Pluto, it is likely that the rage has been festering for quite some time and the explosion is intense and through. When Sun/Moon/Merc/Venus is involved, it may suggest that the person may be naturally combative or that there are a lot of emotions involved in expressing themselves. I often find that with Uranus-Venus, it could be that the individual will fight with the partner about time away vs time spent together. Pluto-Venus suggests that love can go BAD. Real dark "I wanna kill my girlfriend" BAD. emotions are still very strong(even if they say they :"hate" the person). Objectivity is often lacking and everything is instinctual. My sister has
Leo Asc ruler Sun/Pluto opposition
Uranus/Mars opposition
Mars/Saturn opposition. I myself can be extremely irritated and implode. But I am conscious of it and try to not be around "activators". Moon-Mars(Asc ruler)square
Mercury-Mars-square
Venus-Mars semisextile
Sun/Nep quintile Mars
Uranus/Saturn semi-sextile
Uranus/Moon biquintile
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hypatia238
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posted December 04, 2016 01:01 PM
Moon sesquisquare Mars conjunct Uranus.IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted December 04, 2016 01:21 PM
Mars!Mars-Sun
Mars-Moon
Mars-Mercury
Mars-Ascendant Venus, like the moon, is an attractive principle. So a Venus-Mars person will attract assertive types more than express Mars irritation. IP: Logged |
Lerena
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posted December 04, 2016 01:33 PM
Moon square Mars (I think this would indicate a temper)
Mercury in Aries
Mars in Aries
Pluto conjunct Ascendant
Scorpio AscendantIt doesn't take much to make me lose my patience or my temper. However, I am generally not the type to display my anger in front of others except on the Internet. Granted, if pushed hard enough, I wouldn't be able to hide it. Avoiding what makes me angry is not always possible. However, I have a huge amount of pride associated with handling my short temper better than some people do. On the other hand, it also doesn't take long for my anger to just go away before I can do something productive with it. IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted December 04, 2016 01:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nine:
Venus, like the moon, is an attractive principle. So a Venus-Mars person will attract assertive types more than express Mars irritation.
I disagree. Mars-Venus can make one combative and irritable in close association with others(even in non romantic situations) especially if not active. There is a tendency to love "winning" at games or competing socially so as to be the one who gets the most attention at the dinner table or party. So fall outs with friends or associates are usually likely When the social calendar is not busy or there is nothing enjoyable to do, these guys can start to pick fights with those around them. They need to be stimulated and have something enjoyable thing to do or pursue. And while they may love assertive partners, they themselves tend to energize(or irritate) others who are around them. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted December 04, 2016 02:11 PM
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hearttreasure
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posted December 04, 2016 03:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nine:
Venus, like the moon, is an attractive principle. So a Venus-Mars person will attract assertive types more than express Mars irritation.
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
I disagree. Mars-Venus can make one combative and irritable in close association with others(even in non romantic situations) especially if not active.There is a tendency to love "winning" at games or competing socially so as to be the one who gets the most attention at the dinner table or party. So fall outs with friends or associates are usually likely When the social calendar is not busy or there is nothing enjoyable to do, these guys can start to pick fights with those around them. They need to be stimulated and have something enjoyable thing to do or pursue. And while they may love assertive partners, they themselves tend to energize(or irritate) others who are around them.
^^ Venus-Mars what aspect specifically? I have Mars square venus 0.xx (I forgot?  ), I have known as quiet person and disappearing act LOL. My sisters and my Mom also asked me why I almost never show angry/upset emotions about something. But there's one time when I lose my temper to my young sister and she said, "Wow, I've never saw you angry and I should probably not make you angry from now on." I laughed when I heard it then she said, "You are the weirdest person I've ever met. Just a minute before you were angry and I was scared, and now you laugh like there's nothing happened before? You're an alien, for sure. Mom! She's an ALIEN!" I laughed harder and started teasing her. What I know about this aspect: it makes me having a VERY passionate and explosive emotions inside (NOT necessarily associated with anger) especially in intimacy, thanks to my Mars in 12th that I can hide the explosive passionate mountain from public and only show it with my partner intimately LOL. AND I've never met men approach me passively, most of them also tend to sexually turn on just being me there. Even a passive cancer mars men can be an aggressive one. All of my exes proposed to me in early stage of relationship but I'm not a type of rushing into marriage too soon as I'm still young in my opinion although I love being in a long-term relationship. The bad thing is I trigger deep insecurity within all of my exes, so I often involved in a possessive, jealousy, controlling relationship. My last bf (Gem sun) once told me I was weird too because if I ever got mad at him (usually because of his tendency to lie, switch the words, all of those games), he told me to go to sleep, and I asked him why should I go to sleep? and he said, "because when you wake up, you never remember your anger on something." hahahahaha my bad and I hate it that I often forgot I got mad on something.  So, yeah, maybe this is just two sides in one coin? IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted December 04, 2016 05:15 PM
^^Yeah, what Venus-Mars aspects exactly?Those with Venus-Mars aspects, absent Mars-Sun/Moon/Asc/Merc, aren't as you describe at all. That description seems to equate Venus/Mars to Venus in Aries. In this instance they are not the same. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted December 04, 2016 05:41 PM
Sun combust mercuryMoon combust Sun Unaspected Mars( this one has a HOT temper lol) ------------------
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colorful butterfly
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posted December 04, 2016 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
Colorful butterfly, what are your other placements? I've never heard of Venus adding a short fuse, it's usually more on the charming, pleasure seeking route. Mars/Aries is impulsive and hot tempered.
Scorpio I think can have a short fuse if combined with mars/Uranus or Aries, I know quit a few guys with Scorpio rising with Pluto conj the ASC and they are very intense and volcanic, can get heated pretty quickly and if that's combined with any Neptune/Pisces influence, I think it could add a softer side but will heighten the emotional response and sensitive reaction. Also, mars square the sun will give a very quick temper and defensiveness, same with moon square mars which can be so snappy and volatile. Fire signs in general are volatile and water signs too can be emotionally extreme, so when in tension I think a short temper can emerge, especially with prominent planets/aspects I named above. Same would apply with parallels, close parallels to mars especially, Pluto and Uranus can be a cranky and unpredictable planet at times too.
Cancer sun, libra moon, jupiter conjunct mercury in leo, mars and venus in gemini. I also have mars square saturn. Saturn in virgo 12 house , mars in 9th. IP: Logged |
colorful butterfly
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posted December 04, 2016 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
Colorful butterfly, what are your other placements? I've never heard of Venus adding a short fuse, it's usually more on the charming, pleasure seeking route. Mars/Aries is impulsive and hot tempered.
Scorpio I think can have a short fuse if combined with mars/Uranus or Aries, I know quit a few guys with Scorpio rising with Pluto conj the ASC and they are very intense and volcanic, can get heated pretty quickly and if that's combined with any Neptune/Pisces influence, I think it could add a softer side but will heighten the emotional response and sensitive reaction. Also, mars square the sun will give a very quick temper and defensiveness, same with moon square mars which can be so snappy and volatile. Fire signs in general are volatile and water signs too can be emotionally extreme, so when in tension I think a short temper can emerge, especially with prominent planets/aspects I named above. Same would apply with parallels, close parallels to mars especially, Pluto and Uranus can be a cranky and unpredictable planet at times too.
Also pluto conjunct moon. If you want to look at my chart I was born July 2 1979 at 1235 pm. I can't post it on here because I use my phone for the internet but I have no issues if you want to post it. Curious to see what you think? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted December 05, 2016 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
What I know about this aspect: it makes me having a VERY passionate and explosive emotions inside (NOT necessarily associated with anger) especially in intimacy, thanks to my Mars in 12th that I can hide the explosive passionate mountain from public and only show it with my partner intimately LOL.
I think this is what I mean. Passion. And the fact that you say that you hide this from the public and share with your partner in intimate situations etc. I think of Venus/Mars as a painter that is transfixed in her work and can be very defensive/angry when you peak at her masterpiece before she has had the chance to finish. Mars adds passion,excitement and impatience and attachment to the planet it touches Perhaps Venus-Mars is not always expressed externally as clear anger. But passion. The individual wants to quickly get to the "crux" of what the relationship is all about- whether its platonic or intimate. Often there is a back/forth relationship with people close to them(Venus). A sort of "I love it(Venus) when we fight(Mars) or debate " vibe. In love matters, there is great impatience and "lets get it on already" that makes tantric sex or the type that goes "all night long", not very attractive. Instant gratification is what this aspect can be all about and when there is an obstacle to that,it is easy for the person to get angry,impatient and walk off. IP: Logged |
alludeu
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posted December 05, 2016 06:21 AM
I feel like most people with any strong aries influence are generally short tempered. Depending on other factors in the birth chart, it might just be that they are better at hiding their anger than other aries-infuenced individuals.IP: Logged |
hearttreasure
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posted December 05, 2016 01:42 PM
I'm sorry @Aries23Degrees, I still disagree you pick the Mars/Venus for (as the thread title) short fuse and impatience. as I have one and will not vote it. LOL.The fact that I hide it because I am so aware of this energy (as it's in 0 degrees) that it often sends raw sexuality to the opposite sign (Mars in 12th house help to reduce the frequency out). quote:
Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
The individual wants to quickly get to the "crux" of what the relationship is all about- whether its platonic or intimate.Often there is a back/forth relationship with people close to them(Venus). A sort of "I love it(Venus) when we fight(Mars) or debate " vibe.
It's not always true. I have numerous unpleasant experience with the opposite sign aggressively approach me and get angry if I don't give them fast response, I never want a quick on everything, I really take my time although I love the person or the relationship. I usually tend to find the opposite sign is the impatience one and wants a quick on everything. I don't "love" when I fight/debate with anyone BUT I'm not afraid to voice my mind out whether you like it or not, I'm not going to please anyone, as long as what I tell you the TRUTH I will not afraid to speak up. But, if the mars or venus is in Aries, scorpio, or other sign who is known has a strong emotions then it can be true. My mars is in Sag and my venus is in pisces, both are known as playful sign and love jokes. If I ever lose my temper, I know it comes from my Aries moon, not the Mars/Venus.
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
In love matters, there is great impatience and "lets get it on already" that makes tantric sex or the type that goes "all night long", not very attractive. Instant gratification is what this aspect can be all about and when there is an obstacle to that,it is easy for the person to get angry,impatient and walk off.
Mars/Venus is a very passionate person in a GOOD softy way, not like a scorpio/aries thing I've noticed. Mars/Venus passion will not try to force their target just because they have a STRONG emotions and it's not like in an obsessive way, simply it's a healthy passionate feelings but STRONG like an energy.. I mean like a strong muscle? hahaha If the person easy to get angry, impatient, and walk off, I think you need to consider the moon (as there are some moon who refuse to walk away, calm/patient too) and the sun (if they have Mars/Venus aspect). I know an Aries sun, Capricorn moon, and he has Mars (Taurus) square Venus (Aquarius). He is NOTHING like me but he is exactly what you describe, but look at the moon (ambitious) and the sun (energetic). When he doesn't get what he wants, he walks off, doesn't want to waste his time. I know a Scorpio sun, Aries moon, and he has Mars (Cancer) square Venus (Libra). He somehow can be passive aggressive or in a zig zag way but in a strategic way when approach someone. If he ever gets angry/impatient, look at the moon and the sun. Mars/Venus, I still don't think it's associated with short fuse and impatience. I don't know from the outer planets, but for personal planets, I'll vote for Moon/Mars and Mercury/Mars people. Sometimes pluto hard aspect to the moon/venus especially when they do not get a quick commitment from the other person. -- May be Aries/Scorpio placement can add the short fuse and impatience in the person. IP: Logged |
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posted December 05, 2016 01:51 PM
Tuche  . I fold.Maybe because the 3 examples in my head have Aries,Scorpio and Gemini as their Venus/Mars combo. The Gemini Venus/Mars specifically loves to argue and can just "jump right in" even when they catch the conversation in the middle. I have also had experiences with them where I would say something and it would translate to something else in their head and they would flare up and start spewing venom lol
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posted December 05, 2016 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Tuche . I fold.Maybe because the 3 examples in my head have Aries,Scorpio and Gemini as their Venus/Mars combo. The Gemini Venus/Mars specifically loves to argue and can just "jump right in" even when they catch the conversation in the middle. I have also had experiences with them where I would say something and it would translate to something else in their head and they would flare up and start spewing venom lol
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colorful butterfly
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posted December 06, 2016 02:30 AM
I was looking at my blm and it is in leo. I wander if this is why I can have a temper in love relations. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted December 06, 2016 09:03 AM
Moon conjunct Mars is another one, Charlie------------------
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posted December 06, 2016 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Moon conjunct Mars is another one, Charlie
Basically moon-Mars in hard aspect.
Square, opposite, conjunct. With Mars and Pluto. I'm not so sure. BAD tempered but I'm not sure about quick tempered
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