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Brenda_S
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posted December 09, 2020 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fire = dry+hot
Air = dry+cold
Water = wet+cold?
Earth = ???

Is Water warm or cool? And what about Earth? And is it wet or dry?

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posted December 09, 2020 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are different systems out there which differ some from each other i.e. Chinese (various sub systems even there), Ayurvedic, western astrology, etc.

But very generally speaking, Yin is considered cool to cold in nature, and so Earth is cool to cold. I don't know for sure, but would lean to thinking it might be considered dry? But would say that Virgo and Capricorn would be the most "dry" while Taurus might be borderline "moist"?

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Brenda_S
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posted December 09, 2020 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you say then that air is dry or wet?

According to Ayurveda, Vata is a water/air combo. However, Vata types are generally dry and cool (I know it's true for me - which is why I figured air might be dry). (Thinking about this why does it feel like Saturn? Isn't Vata really unlike Saturn?)

I think generally one 'element' needs to have the ability to interconnect with another element through one of its temperaments, which I heard one Astrologer speak about.

As an example, fire and earth likely relate though dryness. However fire is hot and earth is cool. Which makes sense when you think about a burning log. It can only actually burn if the log is dry. That's how they relate.

If that's the case, earth and water would connect through it's coolness.

Fire and air through heat?

And water and air via wetness.

So, would it be fair to say that:

Fire = dry and hot
Air = wet and hot (although would conflict with Ayurveda which considers air dry)
Earth = dry and cold
Water = wet and cold

Would you be able to share any insights you have on this? I think it's pretty interesting to see how it relates to real life scenarios. Like, given that fire and water don't connect via temperament (within the previous setup)... When brought together, fire either dries out water or water extinguishes fire. And same with earth and air. Think tornado. Or when ones' airpipe is obstructed air can't pass through. The two clash seemingly not being able coexist.

It is interesting though to see Ayurveda consider these two opposites (air and water) "Vata". Or perhaps Vata relates to the mutable quality. Pitta to the cardinal and Kapha to the fixed which actually feels correct.

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Sorry the last paragraph disregard they actually do interconnect. (Water and Air)

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posted December 09, 2020 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dunno. I lean to thinking Air is probably dry and warm.

But first we need to define these terms well. What does dry and wet mean to you? Or hot and cold?

I haven't ever found a system that I fully and completely agree with. Same with a belief systems. Closest thing that I've ever come across is the EC work.

If I was going to make a system, I would list it as generally speaking:
Fire=hot and dry
Earth=cold and dry
Air=warm and dry
Water=cool and wet

But then knowing that some individual Signs have some blending or difference from the general system, like I would say that Taurus is more cool and moist (i.e. not quite dry and not quite wet, but in between).

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