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Topic: WHY ARE SCORPIOS EMOTIONALLY CONSTIPATED?
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chaania
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posted September 11, 2017 04:44 PM
  
Well at least, in my case?! WHY?I am an introverted plutonic sagittarius too, BUT I AM OPEN ABOUT MY FEELINGS. I talk. Scorpios, why is it so difficult to say a word or two, or anything?
I ve been dating this scorpio that i love so much.
I ask him... why do you never tell me what youre feeling about me?
His answers:
-I DONT USE BIG WORDS OFTEN.. LIKE LOVE OR BEAUTIFUL ETC.
- I cant really talk about these stuff... i am more physical. I dont remember the last time I said I love you to someone. I express myself physically. I kissed and touched you the entire day, we had watery sweaty hot woohooh for hours, what do you think?
- I cant say these things
- I cant really express
- I drove for 7 hours to see you and i might get in trouble at work because i skipped a day for you, what does that tell you?
- I am fixed... once i like something a lot - like you, i dont let go unless things go badly. Does that tell you anything? (Meanwhile sagittarius is looking in the distance, thoughtful). You hear me, you hear me? (Grabs sagittarius closer to face him).
HUH?
Just tell me?
Kind of annoys me. I dont understand why do yall do this. Youre not going to die if youre open. A bit.
But... i still admire scorpios nature. Instead of throwing words around without feeling them (like gemini), youre more real.
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Kannon McAfee
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posted September 11, 2017 05:02 PM
Because it is their nature. It isn't necessarily being 'emotionally constipated', but they are retentive of the feelings themselves, and tend to feel that secondary talk about those feelings isn't necessary to validate them.Fixed water focuses on the internal long-term spiritual and emotional nature of experience. They understand words are symbols that can be flashed falsely. If he shows you he loves you, why get hung up over the words? By contrast, many Leo types will not flatter or compliment the ones they love directly, but will give effusive praise about them to third parties. So what. When they turn to others, they are representing you as part of them. A lot of these facets of personality and patterns relate more to the person's Moon sign and aspect condition. What is his Moon sign and what do you know about the aspects? ------------------
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Sulkyarcher
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posted September 11, 2017 05:46 PM
They're Yin energy. IP: Logged |
Lerena
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posted September 11, 2017 06:37 PM
Capricorn Moons are similar, I've found. It drives me nuts. While I appreciate actions, my Gemini Moon still loves expression through words. I'm emotionally very deep, complex, and complicated. It would be a mistake to look at my Gemini Moon and expect me to be light-hearted, cheery, and talkative. It's possible for me to be like this, but it's incredibly rare. My Gemini Moon conjuncts my 8th house cusp from 7th house. I relate to both Moon in 7th house and Moon in 8th house descriptions.Mainly, I do acknowledge that some things are better shown through actions. I'm just a huge fan of knowing for sure what someone thinks, how they feel, etc. I'm a fan of hearing comforting words when I'm upset as well. I definitely know how you feel. Unfortunately, some people just aren't emotionally expressive. This doesn't mean they don't feel anything. It just means the way they show their love is different and there's nothing wrong with that. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted September 11, 2017 07:23 PM
It's because they don't trust you. Opening up to you is a way of them showing they trust you, revealing the deepest parts of themselves to those that truly deserve it, if they even choose to do that. If a Scorpio is willing to expose their vulnerability to you in order to connect with you, it's a very deep level of trust that they expect you to take seriously. That's why they can become so vengeful if that trust is broken. Scorpio Moons are much more difficult to get to than Scorpio Suns by far. Once you do get that trust, they make it clear as day. Not to mention their emotional intensity can easily be taken the wrong way which is why they prefer to stay closed off; they're not an open book. It may not even be that; Scorpio is a water sign. It communicates in an intuitive way and will seek understanding that isn't verbally expressed, which your Sagittarius planets dislike. Sagittarius is very open, Scorpio isn't. It is just their nature. A Scorpio will take "actions speak louder than words" to heart. ------------------
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hypatia238
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posted September 11, 2017 10:35 PM
Your guy sounds wonderful but I understand your frustration too....The guy I am seeing right has sun, mercury, venus and pluto in scorpio but with mars in gemini and moon in aries in the 8th house. He is unlike other scorpios I have dated, he is way more expressive, talks freely about his feelings for me and also shows through his actions he loves me. He does say he is typically guarded and not very open but feels safe with me. I think having moon in aries with mars in gemini makes him more open and upfront too. IP: Logged |
Sagical
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posted September 11, 2017 11:51 PM
MBTI type might explain it more..... emotionally constipated, as in not readily showing emotions? On one of the scales that measures feeling and thinking.... maybe this individual is more of a thinking type and puts no importance of value on feeling. It's not that one is emotionally constipated, it's that they work more with thoughts and logic. It's on one's point of perception about emotions.... one can feel greatly or not so much. I knew a lady who was a Capricorn with no water planets and she was deeply sensitive and emotional. I think s I have a friend if mine who is a Scorpio and he approaches things is a rational and logical way. He is not really an emotional type really. I have more intellectual conversations with him. We're good friends, who have known each other for a long time now... the trust has been built up over the years..... My partner now, is a Scorpio. Early on, he has been very open about his feelings and he is a very sensitive and feeling man. That is something that I find so attractive and human about him is his feelings. He's not afraid to show it and I have seen him cry. Being the Cancer Moon person that I am, I go and give him a huge hug. He appreciates that I'm there for him with emotional support. (Moon in Cancer trine his Sun/Mars, His Moon in Aries Conjunct my Sun). IP: Logged |
charlie
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posted September 12, 2017 03:17 AM
He doesn't trust you. I have a Cap Moon sq Pluto (someone mentioned Cap Moons) and I will say jack sh1t if I don't trust you but can border on insane/vulgar/mouth diarrhea when I do. My mom is the same and she does have a Scorpio Moon. All she'll say, if trust is lacking: "I see" :-/ And then she'll smile VERY ambiguously. IP: Logged |
Electro DGX
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posted September 12, 2017 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by charlie:
He doesn't trust you. I have a Cap Moon sq Pluto (someone mentioned Cap Moons) and I will say jack sh1t if I don't trust you but can border on insane/vulgar/mouth diarrhea when I do. My mom is the same and she does have a Scorpio Moon. All she'll say, if trust is lacking: "I see" :-/ And then she'll smile VERY ambiguously.
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hypatia238
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posted September 12, 2017 02:16 PM
I could see how cap moon square pluto would be reserved and guarded but the verbal diarrhea I dont think is your cap moon square pluto, that is something else in your chart that kicks in if you trust someone.Like my guy has verbal diarrhea with me but he is normally guarded, he has moon square saturn which is were the guardedness comes from but he also has moon square Neptune so if he trusts you he can be very open and his mars in gemini kicks in making him very chatty. I would love to see your whole chart.
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Lalafortunaea
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posted September 12, 2017 02:22 PM
SCORPIOS AREN'T EMOTIONALLY CONSTIPATED!Depeche Mode puts it nicely, "Words are meaningless and forgettable"! But if you want some words just say "I want you to tell me this/would make me happy if you told me." IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 12, 2017 02:27 PM
I have sun and mercury in virgo with venus conjunct mars in Leo so I need the gestures, attentiveness, passion and affection as well as the words and someone intellectual to some extent. I need someone passionate and intellectual who demonstrates through actions and words their love to feel truly loved by someone fully.But yes actions matter more. IP: Logged |
Stellia
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posted September 13, 2017 06:11 AM
Following this with interest  In my limited experience, I've found that whole Cher song 'it's in his kiss' to be true with a scorp. In a situation where there is clearly trust but that person is just not verbal. In his kiss though, and his touch... Any doubts I may have had evaporated. There's a lusty kiss and there's an 'I'm touching your soul and want to be yours completely' kiss. I never knew the difference before. That's how I knew As a leo moon, and someone with venus in gemini - I do need to hear how much I'm loved. But I make a point of asking for this and explaining how important it is to me. Have you looked at the Five Languages of Love? Sounds like you may also have different approaches - the book shows you how can you adapt to your partner's preferred style/needs so everyone feels the love. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 13, 2017 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Stellia:
Following this with interest In my limited experience, I've found that whole Cher song 'it's in his kiss' to be true with a scorp. In a situation where there is clearly trust but that person is just not verbal. In his kiss though, and his touch... Any doubts I may have had evaporated. There's a lusty kiss and there's an 'I'm touching your soul and want to be yours completely' kiss. I never knew the difference before. That's how I knew As a leo moon, and someone with venus in gemini - I do need to hear how much I'm loved. But I make a point of asking for this and explaining how important it is to me. Have you looked at the Five Languages of Love? Sounds like you may also have different approaches - the book shows you how can you adapt to your partner's preferred style/needs so everyone feels the love.
So true how they kiss you and touch you says it all! He says he feels loved the most by me bc of how I kiss him and how I hug him. I feel really loved by him by how he holds me and caresses me. IP: Logged |
chaania
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posted September 14, 2017 05:35 AM
Update.He is a pisces moon, in 8th. So its scorpionic.
He has a scorpio stellium, his dominant planets being Sun, Pluto and Moon, in that order. All scorpio.
He is very physical.
Scorpio starts a relationship based on the physical attraction (80%) and personality/how he feels with the person (20%). The physical part is very important for him and he cant see himself dating any girl. His type is light skin - light hair and light eyes. I am exactly like that. Honey blonde, central hererochromia, pale.
He is such a stereotypical scorpio..  . I perceive him as a panther. (attractive, dark hair, gray/blue cold eyes that warm up once he feels good. His eyes are sharp like an eagle.) anyway I am the opposite. Feelings first, physical second. He starts a relationship based on the physical attraction+connection.... and he lets feelings build in time. Slowly. Rationally. If he has to show them, he does it physically. It confused me at first. Now.
I dont expect poetic romantic verses or love letters. I only wish for him to express his feelings verbally ON HIS OWN. I"ve been manipulated before and i dont know if a kiss t. I will explain this. He says that i need to dig and act like an investigator (scorpioooo) if i want to find out anything. Thats what he does. It feels forced to me because naturally things should flow on their own. We texted for 2 months and often talked on the phone from 11pm till 5-6am. Amazing connection. We connected telephatically from the beginning. He feels ehat i feel/when i think of him and so do i. Etc. No talk about feelings, us together, etc. I asked him, he said that he will know FOR SURE in time. When we met he was all over me. I didnt think that this would happen. Being physical and close with someone doesnt always mean that you have some feelings for the person/you like it. It could also mean that its only for fun and sex (like friends with benefits.) After the second day together and still having question marks regarding his feelings for me, i asked him.
Me: So... we are a couple?
Him: What?! Of course we are, we did so many things. Its obvious that we are together.
Me: how could i know if you only use me or you really want something serious?... And again, he doesnt use big words. I look okay and im nice, we are ok, my body is ok.. etc. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted September 14, 2017 07:05 AM
It depends heavily on the Scorpio.I have my Sun, mercury (r), Venus, Jupiter, Pluto, DSC in Scorpio. Scorpio rules my 7th, located in my 6th conjunct my Sun. I also have mars in Sagittarius (1st degree) conjunct Pluto. Jupiter is at 0 degrees conjunct my 6th house stellium. I am very Plutonian but I believe my Mars in Sagittarius and Moon in Libra helps with my self-expression. Moreso, my mars. I am VERY blunt and direct about everything, including my deepest emotions. I wear my heart on my sleeve. My emotions aren't as fickle as a typical Libra Moon because of my Moon-saturn trine abd not to mention Pluto makes a weak semi-sextile to it. But I don't have a problem expressing myself. I used to be this way when I was younger, but I broke out that shell years ago. I still have many layers and by no means am I a social butterfly, but I have no problem talking to people. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 14, 2017 11:57 AM
@chaaniaWhat does he have in Venus?! Mine has venus in Scorpio and he is the opposite he loooooves dark hair, loooooves curly hair and loooooves dark eyes. He is obsessed with my eyes actually, I have big brown eyes, my hair too as I have curly hair. I am white but his last lover was Turkish and had olive skin and he loved her skin tone.. But he has said many times that I AM exactly his type, I have scorpio rising and he has venus in scorpio disposited by pluto in scorpio, along with his sun and mercury also in scorpio, his pluto conjuncts my AC. I am curious what sign does your guy have in VENUS. My guy is the one with the blue eyes and blonde hair... IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 16, 2017 07:57 PM
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chaania
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posted September 19, 2017 02:30 AM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
@chaaniaWhat does he have in Venus?! Mine has venus in Scorpio and he is the opposite he loooooves dark hair, loooooves curly hair and loooooves dark eyes. He is obsessed with my eyes actually, I have big brown eyes, my hair too as I have curly hair. I am white but his last lover was Turkish and had olive skin and he loved her skin tone.. But he has said many times that I AM exactly his type, I have scorpio rising and he has venus in scorpio disposited by pluto in scorpio, along with his sun and mercury also in scorpio, his pluto conjuncts my AC. I am curious what sign does your guy have in VENUS. My guy is the one with the blue eyes and blonde hair...
So similar. Kind of weird, lols.
His venus....... drum roll... you will never guess it....
its in Scorpio!
He is a Scorpio Sun conjunct Pluto Mercury, Venus - so he is exactly like yours, in this aspect!
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Pisces Moon
Libra Mars
Leo Ascendant Interesting how two similar charts can turn out so different. IP: Logged |
Koniucha
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posted September 19, 2017 08:05 AM
I am a Scorpio but I also have a Mercury - Moon aspect, so expressing my emotions is important to me. I don't go around sharing with everyone, just people I trust and am close to.IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 19, 2017 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by chaania:
So similar. Kind of weird, lols.
His venus....... drum roll... you will never guess it....
its in Scorpio!
He is a Scorpio Sun conjunct Pluto Mercury, Venus - so he is exactly like yours, in this aspect!
But
Pisces Moon
Libra Mars
Leo Ascendant Interesting how two similar charts can turn out so different.
Yes very interesting! Well he has moon in aries and mars in gemini with Virgo rising.. I think his Aquarius on the DC maybe explains why he loves blondes. Aquarius is attracted to what is different/foreign and he is not blonde himself, he has dark hair and brown eyes right? Like my guy has blonde hair with blue eyes and loves dark features but he has Uranus, Saturn and Neptune all on his 5th house in addition to venus in scorpio. Further capricorn is in his 5th house reinforcing the attraction to darker earthy features I feel. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 19, 2017 11:42 AM
I will add that I could see how Aquarius on the DC would create someone who is not verbally expressive in relationships btw!Aquarius is not into public displays of affection and been overly emotionally expressive and the DC rules relationships and how you are in relationships. Where is his Uranus? IP: Logged |
Franco
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posted September 20, 2017 09:09 AM
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Your guy sounds wonderful but I understand your frustration too....The guy I am seeing right has sun, mercury, venus and pluto in scorpio but with mars in gemini and moon in aries in the 8th house. He is unlike other scorpios I have dated, he is way more expressive, talks freely about his feelings for me and also shows through his actions he loves me. He does say he is typically guarded and not very open but feels safe with me. I think having moon in aries with mars in gemini makes him more open and upfront too.
have sun, venus, mercury and pluto in scorpio all in conjunction and spoil in geminis. And I am as you describe your boy, I am very open and expressive .. just with my partner .. with the rest of the people and even relatives I am very expressionless, and serious face .. that is what I do not understand, it must be my ascending in capricorn.
and I have also seen that my friends or people of Scorpio are very cold people, serious and extremely intolerant. You must have your Mars in Scorpio. IP: Logged |
hypatia238
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posted September 20, 2017 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Franco:
have sun, venus, mercury and pluto in scorpio all in conjunction and spoil in geminis. And I am as you describe your boy, I am very open and expressive .. just with my partner .. with the rest of the people and even relatives I am very expressionless, and serious face .. that is what I do not understand, it must be my ascending in capricorn.and I have also seen that my friends or people of Scorpio are very cold people, serious and extremely intolerant. You must have your Mars in Scorpio.
I don't have mars in scorpio . I have Venus conjunct Mars in LEO exact and Scorpio rising which conjuncts his Pluto the final dispositor for his scorpio stellium.(In astrology a final dispositor is a planet in a chart which all other planets are dependent on because it is the only one in its own sign of the zodiac.) He has Sun conjunct Venus exact biquintile his Mars. His Sun conjunct Venus quintiles my Venus conjunct Mars and his Mars also quintiles my venus conjunct mars. In composite we have Venus quintile Mars exact. IP: Logged |
MilaBirkin
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posted September 20, 2017 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by charlie:
He doesn't trust you. I have a Cap Moon sq Pluto (someone mentioned Cap Moons) and I will say jack sh1t if I don't trust you but can border on insane/vulgar/mouth diarrhea when I do. My mom is the same and she does have a Scorpio Moon. All she'll say, if trust is lacking: "I see" :-/ And then she'll smile VERY ambiguously.
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