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Topic: how do you adjust the time on a progressed chart
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ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted November 12, 2018 10:33 PM
how do you adjust the exact time on a progressed chart?IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 13, 2018 07:19 AM
Do you mean on astro.com ? There you would fill in the date in the transit section. Then select the progressed chart option, then you view your chart. Although as far as I know, you cannot chose by hour. It’s always a day chart. Same with transit charts. IP: Logged |
ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted November 13, 2018 02:28 PM
can anyone confirm that you can't adjust the hour for progressed charts on astro.comwhen i look at the chart..there is a time mentioned...but i don't know how they got it or if i can change it IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 13, 2018 02:43 PM
I think the hour is irrelevant in progressions. The planets move so slowly. It’s relevant in transits though, because of the moon. I haven’t figured out how to do it, yet. A possibility would be to create an event chart for a certain day, then make a synastry with your chart.IP: Logged |
ithinkimightbewrong Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Nov 2018
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posted November 13, 2018 02:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by ana_bee: I think the hour is irrelevant in progressions. The planets move so slowly. It’s relevant in transits though, because of the moon. I haven’t figured out how to do it, yet. A possibility would be to create an event chart for a certain day, then make a synastry with your chart.
what confuses me is the houses... how can the houses be the same for the begning of the day and the end of the day? IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 13, 2018 02:55 PM
It’s because a progressed chart isn’t like a natal chart, where the Asc degree moves by the minute. In your progressed chart you’ll have the same Asc for years!! That’s why house placements change just as slowly.But how and why, I don’t know. It’s just the way it’ s calculated. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3642 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 14, 2018 04:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by ithinkimightbewrong: what confuses me is the houses... how can the houses be the same for the begning of the day and the end of the day?
The real question is how can they be the same at the beginning and end of the year? Since in progressions each day of your original life gets its astrological movements projected onto the ensuring years. The answer is that the standard method of doing secondary progressions (Naibod method) is arbitrary. It is superimposed by astrologers over nature. Astro.com now offers the option of doing progressions correctly, as seen in nature's actual movements (global or in mundi rotation). You can find it down the Extended Chart Selection page and to the left as ARMC 361°/prog.day: So there is no need for you to adjust the time (or place) of a progressed chart. Just employ the accurate way of calculating it. ------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 236 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 15, 2018 01:10 PM
@kannon But then the Asc changes too fast. Isn’t the purpose of a progressed chart to show the evolution of the original natal or composite? We don’t change our personality every month.. When my Asc is originally in Scorpio, I won’t have next month the outlook of a Sagittarius.. but it does make sense that through out the years, my outlook becomes more positive and optimistic after actually experiencing life and gaining more confidence. The slower movement thus makes more sense to me. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee Moderator Posts: 3642 From: Portland, OR - USA Registered: Oct 2011
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posted November 15, 2018 04:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by ana_bee: @kannon But then the Asc changes too fast.
According to who? Not according to nature, the Earth that does this turning. quote:
Isn’t the purpose of a progressed chart to show the evolution of the original natal or composite?
No one evolves that fast. The purpose of the progressed chart is to move the chart forward in day-for-year fashion. Varying astrologers will interpret that varying ways. quote:
We don’t change our personality every month.
A progressed Ascendant does not change your personality on any schedule any more than the progressed Moon changes you inner feeling nature every 2+ years. The natal chart shows where you have developed to up to this point. What you do to change is not dictated by the progressed chart, but by your choices and the way you live with the energies you are emphasizing in between life activities -- planetary lokas or sojourns . quote: When my Asc is originally in Scorpio, I won’t have next month the outlook of a Sagittarius.. but it does make sense that through out the years, my outlook becomes more positive and optimistic after actually experiencing life and gaining more confidence. The slower movement thus makes more sense to me.
That's because you've placed astrological theory from humans above the movement of nature that forms the foundation of all of it. You cannot have an astrological 'common sense' that denies the tempo of the Earth's rotation or any other movement in nature that astrology is based on. You've described vague theory by modern western astrologists who know little about the way astrology meshes with soul evolution. To learn that you have to dig into material like the Edgar Cayce readings and eastern variations on astrology. Besides, the course of development you're referring to happens across the Lunar Nodes in your chart, not the zodiac. You don't become 3-4 different personalities or merely pick up the positive preferable qualities of the succeeding sign(s). It may not be necessary at all for a person born with Scorpio rising to start developing Sagittarius rising qualities at all in present lifetime. Nor is it due simply by order of the zodiac. Look first at the nature of the movements. Then you can bypass the shortcomings of human theory about them. When we make a choice of rising sign, it is for the full lifetime.
------------------ "Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy Expert Rectification IP: Logged |