posted September 01, 2013 05:02 PM            

I read it was like an auxiliary ascendant.

posted September 01, 2013 05:51 PM            

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posted September 01, 2013 05:57 PM            

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posted September 01, 2013 05:59 PM              

Vertex placements can be found on the chart using astro.com. The drop or check box has the option.

here's a useful link if you haven't already seen it:
http://tribes.tribe.net/astrologylovers/thread/457474a0-23d4-4a71-aaaf-d8ee67692f65

posted September 01, 2013 10:25 PM            

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Originally posted by cappy1277:
"The Meridian House system uses the Midheaven as the tenth house cusp, but the Ascendant is not the first house cusp. Rather, another sensitive point called the Equatorial Ascendant or East Point is the first house cusp. This system is popular with Uranian astrologers; it is based on even divisions of the celestial equator projected onto the ecliptic."
www.adze.com

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Yes, the 'East Point' is not really an east point in the truest sense of the word. The East Point is where our Ascendant would be if we were born exactly on the equator, upwards on downwards from our place of birth. If we were born on the equator then the East Point is exactly the same as our Asc. The East Point is not at all the same thing as the Vertex. 'Equatorial Asc' is actually a better name for it. It usually falls into our 1st or 12th house...

But like the Vertex/Antivertex Axis, the East point makes a pair with the West Point, which is where our Dsc would be if we were born on the equator.

I always check out the East Point/West Point Axis. Sadly, it seems to be a largely neglected Axis!

By comparison...

The Vertex Axis has to do with a feeling of fatedness, synchronicity, and wish fulfillment… Vertex Axis synastry adds a 'meant to be' to vibe to the relationship, and a feeling that there is meaning and significance to it.

Whereas the East Point/West Point Axis relates to our idealized notions of how things should be, our personal biases, and our unconscious self-evaluation. This Axis is associated with our personal ideals of paradise and perfection, skewed or not (depends on the person). Synastry involving the East Point/West Point Axis supposedly gives the feeling that the other person is 'perfect' in some way. Or that they behave in just the 'right' way. Or that they fit how people in general are ideally 'supposed' to be.

Synastry with this this Axis also shows how others influence our subjective self-evaluation, when comparing ourselves to people who aspect our Ep/Wp, and adopting or disgarding arbitrary biases (personal likes/disllikes).

If the Vertex Axis is the 'axis of fate', then the Ep/Wp is the axis of 'biased Views on perfection'. 'Bias' is not always a bad word. Most people have certain things that they favor over other things in various areas of life. It's natural to have favorites and pet peeves, as well as our own personal views on what 'perfection' is. The Ep/Wp Axis gives us a direct astrological line to these preferences.

This is a part of an essay I read on the net by astrologer Michael Munkasey called “The Personal Sensitive Points (PSPs) of Astrology”. It deals with the East Point/Equatorial Ascendant as well as some other interesting points to explore in the natal chart... Ascendant(ASC), Descendant(DSC), MC, IC, Vertex, Antivertex, North Node, South Node, Polar Asc, Polar Dsc, Co-Ascendant, Co-Descedant, as well as what the zero degrees Aries point means in our chart.

There's a free astrology software called astrowin, that calculates all of these points (it also does a large variety of other astro-calculations). I downloaded it years ago, and have been using it ever since.

Anyway, here's the quote about the Ep...

“There is a part of our mind where we go to relax, take stock of what is happening, evaluate life and our attitudes, perhaps even form new attitudes. The prejudices we were taught, or the prejudices we were born with, reside in the EQA region of mind. It is here that we go when we are half-asleep or half-awake to formulate impressions of how we are performing or progressing in life. The EQA is where we go to evaluate self and life and how self is reacting to life. The EQA represents idea and image formation, or idea birth. The EQA is where we go to evaluate self. The EQA is where we go to evaluate how we "think" others do or do not accept us. Many of the reactions that go on at the EQA level are only half-conscious. Self-evaluation is an important concept for the EQA.”

http://astrolog.offline.ee/astrolog/texts/psp.txt
Here's the Link.

Yeah, I strongly suspect that the EP (Equatorial Asc, or Eastern Point), like the Vertex, is an important point in the chart that can be very compelling when people touch it… The EP shows where our personal biases are, and how others influence our self evaluation…

So in synastry it would show how others resonate with our arbitrary biases in some way when they aspect our EP, and vice versa when we aspect their EP…. Like both people have the same social standards of what type behavior is acceptable or not, or they just happen to think that maroon is better than pink, or think that one type of accent sounds better than another, or they agree that long hair is better then short hair….

Positive EP synastry, at least, would have a positive effect on our self evaluation… because, in theory, our personal biases of what is considered good or bad, or positive or negative… Would be supported, and re-enforced, by the people who conjoin or positively aspect the EP. These people would validate us in our personal beliefs….

Perhaps negative aspects to the EP would have an opposite effect…. The feeling of having your personal biases unappreciated or invalidated?

I think it’s interesting to compare the EP to the Vertex in terms of influence to get a ‘feel’ for how each one works differently…

The Vertex is about the people and times in our lives where we experience meaningful turning points. And it has a very electric, poignant, exciting feel to it….. The EP, on the other hand, seems to be about where we need validation for our personal preferences, biases, and conceptions of how things ‘should be‘…. And it seems to have more of a soothing, confirming, bolstering quality to it….

posted September 01, 2013 11:30 PM            

I had read conflicting things. I didn't think it was the vertex axis but I read something confusing on astro.com. Will post that later.

posted September 02, 2013 07:07 AM            

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Originally posted by ShineYourLight:
You can also find it at astro.com!
Choose > Extended Chart Selection > Pullen/Astrolog > Aspect/Midpoint Grid Chart > Add Lilith *somehow that shows up as EP*

& there you have it!

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You're right. How odd that it shows up when Lilith is selected. There must be something incorrectly linked in the system because the EP isn't even listed in the drop-down list for the Pullen/Astrolog section. I know it's my EP that shows though, because it's the same degree as the EP I calculated using different software. Oh well, now everybody has an easy way to calculate their Ep... Go to the Pullen/Astrolog section at astro.com.

posted September 05, 2013 06:39 AM            

I can sort of relate to it. My "perfect" type of guy is the brainy, analytical but fun type-- a Gemini stereotype I've always thought it was only because of Capricorn in the 7th house cusp and dsc ruler jupiter in the 3rd.

posted September 05, 2013 07:37 AM            

<cocking my head to the side>

My "perfect" type is more of a sun or mars type. A guy who has a strong presence, larger-than-life, noble and kind. He should also be a bit loud and obnoxious at times.

I do get along quite well with the Caps I know and find many of their qualities admirable. There has never been any kind of romantic attraction, but they make me feel nurtured, feel "at home" and the relationships I have with them are usually relaxing and "nice". They're like warm chicken soup for my soul.

My east point conjunct my husband's ascendant and trine his venus. He's definitely the apple of my eyes, the ultimate "perfection".

posted September 05, 2013 08:23 AM            

At astro.com I simply choose "Meridian" house system, and there you have it at the first house cusp.

I have my Mars exactly at my WEST-point.
In my 3 most longterm and closest relationships they had a planet conjunct my WEST-point (and so conjunct my Mars).
Saturn once, Moon once, Venus once.

With 2 of them there was no birth-time available and with the 3rd my Ceres was exactly conjunct his EAST-point. I consider Ceres *at least* AS important as Pluto since I improved my astronomical knowledge.

EDIT @
But it's true.. even with 'short term' *significant* connections the East/West point axis shows up strongly now I think about it. But they pretty much all seem to have a romantic love/lust based inclination in common... (in my case), 2 different but tight cases;
- his Venus/NN conjunct my East point
- his Mars conjunct my West point

posted September 07, 2013 10:30 PM            

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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
^ yeah that's interesting. My EP is conjunct my bfs asc and opposite his sun and moon.

his EP makes a grand trine with my sun and mercury conjunction and also my mars.

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Originally posted by mir:
Yes Peach.. that's what I also noticed. I was astonished to see how often strong conjuntions/oppositions showed up in longterm couples when I did a check once.

At astro.com I simply choose "Meridian" house system, and there you have it at the first house cusp.

I have my Mars exactly at my WEST-point.
In my 3 most longterm and closest relationships they had a planet conjunct my WEST-point (and so conjunct my Mars).
Saturn once, Moon once, Venus once.

With 2 of them there was no birth-time available and with the 3rd my Ceres was exactly conjunct his EAST-point. I consider Ceres *at least* AS important as Pluto since I improved my astronomical knowledge.

EDIT @
But it's true.. even with 'short term' *significant* connections the East/West point axis shows up strongly now I think about it. But they pretty much all seem to have a romantic love/lust based inclination in common... (in my case), 2 different but tight cases;
- his Venus/NN conjunct my East point
- his Mars conjunct my West point

But I dunno if I'm a great example myself as my Mars is on my West point, so it's easy to ascribe this effect to my Mars. But at least I guess you can say that my Mars in all cases IS strongly involved. Probably more than you would expect it to be - ascribe that to being it on my West point?

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Interesting!!

posted November 18, 2019 05:13 AM            

Just wanna know as my NN conjunct my guy's EQA.