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alludeu
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posted September 23, 2020 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My query is about something I've read online about "1st house ruler in the 8th house"
I read that "the results (of the placement 1st house ruler in 8th) can vary due to aspects from different planets, strength of house, rulers, retrograde or combust planets"

They didn't specify further examples of each individual variable result because there are so many! Hahaha, but I do have a strong square from venus (0 degree orb) in leo in the 5th.

I resonate with the life focus and interests in hidden/taboo/secretive things but I think it's also a placement I've struggled with! Esp with that venus mars square, I definitely resonate with being too impulsive and having bad timing in love, having lots of ups and downs.
What is everyone else's thoughts on this?

This is my chart [IMG]https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/p705/a[/IMG]

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted September 23, 2020 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's the holistic synthesis/integrative part of reading the chart, and is hardest for folks to do.

But yes, everything flavors everything else, though there are always dominant notes and tones.

For example, the most dominant notes and colors are often planets in angular houses or near the Angles. Asc/1st, and then Mc/10th being most amplifying areas. Then lesser extent the Sun and Rising, then Moon, etc.

I'll give a smaller picture example of such synthesis. I have Mars in Virgo. Ok, that gives you a certain picture of things.

But my Mars is conjunct Virgo Jupiter and widely square Sag Neptune.

What this translates to, is that my Mars in Virgo acts and feels a bit more like a Pisces Mars with a hint o' Sagittarius. Slightly more active and Yang than either a Pisces or Virgo Mars.

Since Mars is in the 2nd House, this is most noticed in the areas of my values, resources, etc. I give away money easily, but don't seek to earn a lot of money as my values towards money and resources are more spiritually based/oriented. Mars rules the 9th, so that strengthens the over arching pattern. Look for bigger and repeating patterns, because they usually can be found, and it's those repeating patterns that are the strongest dynamics in the chart usually.

But wait, Jupiter is technically still in my 1st House some and is the planet closest to my Asc. So that strong Jupiter in connection with self, is tinged some with Mars. Is it any wonder that a number of years ago when my partner/twin soul saw my aura, she saw lots of magenta type purple? That's very Jupiter (deeper purple) with some Mars (red) shading in.

So Mars does relate some, more directly to self though.

But not as much as you would think from just those placements. You have to take into a account that I have a very strong Neptune as well, as well as very strong Capricorn, moderate Aquarius, Leo Rising, Libra Moon, and background/moderate Pisces (angular Pisces S. Node).

Layers upon layers of relative connection and weighing and blending.

This is why it's more helpful to master the art and science of integrative, synthesis of basic chart information, before moving on to focusing on things like asteroids etc. Because the above is the hardest thing to do, and it becomes even more difficult when you add very, very subtle and very niche/specific data that is ultimately somewhat extraneous, unless you're looking in a very specific area for "backup or supporting patterns".

And humans are very good at finding patterns, and sometimes injecting patterns when there are none.

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted September 23, 2020 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In relation to your chart, is your Asc Aries or Taurus? You're not really giving enough information to work with. Do you have your chart up somewhere?

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alludeu
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posted September 23, 2020 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alludeu     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
In relation to your chart, is your Asc Aries or Taurus? You're not really giving enough information to work with. Do you have your chart up somewhere?

Thank you for your insight I have an aries ascendant and all the house cusps are in their natural sign. I just added my natal chart to the original post

I definitely feel strong Venus influences (especially with Saturn lightly squaring it as well) in issues with love, relationships, self worth and values.
But Venus in part of my stellium in the 5th house so even moreso in plays out in romantic dynamics *facepalm* BUT on the bright side I am very in touch with the creative nature of these placements. I see lots of patterns in my chart relating back to a planet in my fifth house, but to be honest I probably havent explored any other patterns in my chart.

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posted September 24, 2020 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You definitely have some repeating patterns in your chart, which strongly emphasize certain dynamics.

So yes, with your chart ruler in the other sign it rules (Scorpio), and in the 8th House (a sort of natural ruler of same as well as technical co-ruler), there is a very strong emphasis on this area of life for you.

8th House matters are very active and important for you, and that can range from everything from focus on deeper, more intimate/merging kind of sex, to matters of death and post death (Scorpio is the first sign/stage/cycle in which the Soul becomes aware of the reality of the nonphysical, but more in a sensing way), to inheritance, to collective monies, to investigating and digging deeper into "taboo" type areas and subjects, deeper or abnormal psychology, etc.

Anyways, this is not all of the possible expressions by any means. Since you have such a strong 5th House AND Leo focus, and with Aries Rising at the same time--I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that sex and romance are quite important and/or affecting for you. If you're connected to a female body, with that combo of Aries Rising, Scorpio Mars in the 8th square to Leo Placements in the 5th, you probably have a much more active and stronger sex drive than the average female--but at the same time, you also have a lot of control and can even downright suppress/repress at times (this is not uncommon with strong Scorpio and/or 8th House).

But yes, definitely creativity is very highlighted as well. It's possible that you could even transmute that strong sex and Kundalini energy into creative pursuits. So rather than a repression/suppression (which is always unhealthy and backfires), a healthy RE-DIRECTION of that energy into the faster vibratory centers can happen, which can lead to expanded perception and increased creative drive and inspiration. (Is it any wonder that Nikola Tesla was a life long celibate?)

Now at the same time, Chiron is closely conjunct your Mars there, and so that indicate some greater fears, wounds, and insecurities than normally would be indicated by Scorpio alone (and Scorpio definitely has those kinds of themes as well). Whether you are connected to a male or female body, be conscious of not using sex and sexual energy as a power thing over others--because that can become a definite tendency when you're feeling insecure or lack of connection to true power within.

Btw, my Uranus is right on your Mars, so perhaps some of my intuitive insights may illuminate some deeper issues for you (and I have Leo Rising, so most of your Leo and including your Virgo strongly cusping Leo Sun is in my 1st and/or conjunct my Asc degree [16]).

Definitely an intense chart full of intense will, desire, passion, drive, and loads of stubbornness and determination. Whether you are connected to a male or female body, you're going to need a special kind of partner--one with a lot of patience, ability to bend but not break, and centered emotionally--cause you are a veritable fire cracker on roids.

You also have some latent/in the background intuitive/psychic abilities as indicated by your Aqua Moon Neptune conjunction, Aqua Uranus conjunct Aqua S. Node, and strong Scorpio combo. This will manifest most often in relation to so called "dead people" i.e. either ghosts/stuck people or the recently deceased who are not stuck (they know their bodies are dead and they are in the nonphysical) but want to communicate with a human for whatever reason.

Can't say I recommend the latter too much (it can be helpful at times, but more so for others)--try to redirect that intuitiveness into higher channels such as intuition, communicating with guidance, deeper spiritual and Expanded self insight, etc With your Mars co-ruler, Pluto in Sag in the 9th, and the Aqua Moon conjunct Aqua Neptune--this is more than possible for you to do.

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posted October 05, 2020 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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