posted January 29, 2021 06:15 AM            

Maybe it's transiting Saturn/Jupiter in my Sun sign and Jupiter travelling towards my Sun/Venus and ASC this year...? I dont know, but I have got a bit obsessed about... going to bleach my hair for the first time ever in my life!

Well, long story short, I cant stand my hair situation anymore... been dyeing my whole life cause I hate my natural colour (ashy dark blond now with a few white starting to pop up), but with the awful red brassy highlights always haunting me with no escape......... I would never ever dye my hair darker cause my face is too pale and I would look like a vampire!
Sooooooo... I have decided to try the dreadful bleaching experience and finally get... platinum blond! 💥💥💥

It's obviously the worst idea of my life, since my hair are quite thin and already damaged from dyeing, BUT I have figured out that if it turns out pretty my currently horrible dark state of mind and the lowest level of self-worth one can possibly have will definitely get much much better! 🥰🥰🥰

One could say, well... give it a try! Yes, but there's a little detail to be considered, letting alone all the other possible unfavourable aspects, and that is that with the pandemic situation I would never ever step into an hairstylist saloon and that is why I have decided to face the adventure all on my own! 🔥 For this purpose, I have been learning how to do it for the last two weeks, watching all possible videos and read all possible articles and I have been spending a bunch of money on all the best professional products I could ever use to have the best bleaching job done!

But then..., when I was ready, with all the stuff I need and just about having the guts to ACTUALLY DO IT, I realized that tomorrow the nasty mercury retrograde is starting and will be haunting me for the whole month of February, my birthday included !!!

😭😭😭😭😭

What am I gonna do now?? WHAT?

posted January 29, 2021 06:40 AM            

if you can't even manage to avoid brassiness to begin with that just implies you have no ******* clue what youre doing in the first place 🤷‍♀️ because you could be getting that out many different ways (toner, dish soap, certain shampoos, crushed up aspirin etc)

even without a retrograde it would be a bad idea and even if you got it professionally done if your hair is damaged already there'd be no way to avoid it being damaged further (all hair dye damages hair with the exception of **** like henna which isnt good to use on chemically treated hair and semi permanents which dont necessarily have harsh chemicals, but this isn't what hairdressers are generally using)

if youre comfortable with the idea of needing to potentially cut all of your hair off go for it

also if you hate it it's actually hard to dye over hair properly once it's damaged past a certain point because the color doesnt take properly or evenly

your head though so have fun with that

posted January 29, 2021 06:53 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes! I'm totally aware! Well, my hair is not THAT damaged, just a bit dry and thin.... the brassiness issue, believe me, is not completely matter of experience, I have also been using anti-orange stuff and I usually dye with natural products, it's just my natural hair colour that keeps showing the red when lightening it or just unavoidably after a while it keeps coming out and there's no hairstylist in the world that could ever fix it, believe me!

I already did a test bleaching a small section of my hair and the result was pretty good and no damage, so that's why I have decided to actually go for it! But now my concern is about mercury retrograde... or should I just ignore it and go ahead?

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my hair has red undertones and is dark and has been many colors including white and platinum when i was way younger so nope you legit don't know what you're talking about

anyone who knows what theyre doing even kind of can avoid brassiness

a small section isnt all over bleaching to get platinum and again if you cant figure out brassiness this is a bad idea even without a retrograde

you have to get rid of that issue to even have your hair platinum and maintenance over time will continue to cause damage

you sound like youre going to **** it up , but you also seem determined so go for it

like i said if you regret it it's not going to be easy to dye over necessarily (if at all) and needing to cut your hair is highly likely

even virgin hair and platinum can be a *****

posted January 29, 2021 06:58 AM            

The thing is that my hair are light, not dark, and the red comes out because I lighten, otherwise as I said, if I dyed with a darker colour or an ashy colour I wouldnt have this issue, so I do have a little experience with that. But I DON'T WANT a darker colour! I want a blond! That's the real issue and why the brassiness keeps coming for me!
But especially that I am very tired of thinking about fixing it, which I could do, but I am just tired and so I figured out that bleaching may be a solution, which I havent tried yet (but, I don't rule out it will be a disaster, as I said and as you said, lol)...

posted January 29, 2021 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
oh well that's not encouraging 😂 but I appreciate your wisdom!

The thing is that my hair are light, not dark, and the red comes out because I lighten, otherwise as I said, if I dyed with a darker colour or an ashy colour I wouldnt have this issue, so I do have a little experience with that. But I DON'T WANT a darker colour! I want a blond! That's the real issue and why the brassiness keeps coming for me!
But especially that I am very tired of thinking about fixing it, which I could do, but I am just tired and so I figured out that bleaching may be a solution, which I havent tried yet (but, I don't rule out it will be a disater, as I said and as you said, lol)...

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i'm aware your hair is light not dark, i'm saying that my hair is even harder to lighten than yours and has red in it

actually here:

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this is a pic of my bird but it's also got my hair in it in the sun to give you an idea of how much red there is (indoors it's harder to tell), this is my natural color i haven't dyed my hair since i was way younger

so clearly if brassiness was hard to fix i would have a hard time no? but it isn't and can be done easily is what i'm saying

you having that issue makes me think you're very likely to **** that up especially since you've been dying your hair for years

if you have red in your hair bleaching it out is still going to give you a hard time if you do it wrong

posted January 29, 2021 07:12 AM            

yes yes, I understand what you're saying and you're likely completely right!

But why do you think that bleaching would keep giving the red? the section that I have bleached is completey platinum now! I havent toned it cause it was just a test and I figured out to tone it as soon as I would bleach all my hair, so I was encouraged by this test... even so yes, I am aware that one section is not like all the hair and the result could be actually different.....

posted January 29, 2021 07:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I'm not determined at all, I'm completely scared, ahahah

yes yes, I understand what you're saying and you're likely completely right!

But why do you think that bleaching would keep giving the red? the section that I have bleached is completey platinum now! I havent toned it cause it was just a test and I figured out to tone it as soon as I would bleach all my hair, so I was encouraged by this test... even so yes, I am aware that one section is not like all the hair and the result could be actually different.....

(sorry, your picture is not opening for me, I dont know why!)

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weird shows up for me here fiine

anyway i say that because even when you bleach your hair the undertones can still show up through the process, that's why hair sometimes needs to be double processed for colors like platinum

also as i've said already a section isn't your whole head sometimes hair doesn't evenly bleach out all over, it can be stubborn in spots, this is something you can't know until you're already doing it

being scared doesnt mean you lack determination, as a matter of fact you're arguing all the reasons why it's a fine idea so that's why i said "then go for it" because you'll only know once you do it anyway

posted January 29, 2021 07:20 AM            

A friend recommended Olaplex, but I’m not sure how much it helped. A woman that I follow, loves it, and uses it regularly. My hair has improved since then. I take hair, skin and nails gummies, use flax oil in smoothies or kefir, a few times a week, or every day. I also try to stay hydrated, but I still don’t drink enough, often enough to keep it going. I also use a basic colour-safe moisturizing shampoo and conditioner.

posted January 29, 2021 07:25 AM            

i had edited my first post with some ways you could get rid of the issue + the purple shampoo

i think you should be really sure you want it and maybe consider trying the suggestions to get out brassiness beforehand instead of going so drastic with it if that's all that's bothering you

if you really want platinum it's honestly a hard to maintain over the longterm color that can be really regrettable if you hate it

posted January 29, 2021 07:35 AM            

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Originally posted by teasel:
My hair is like dumuzi’s, and I’ve never bleached it, but I have had damage and hair loss (due to dye at times, but also illness and stress). I’d already lost a decent amount of hair, by the time that I lost more to an illness three years ago, and somehow burnt some off when I dyed it before that - my hair was fuzzy/frizzy and crumbling at the ends.

A friend recommended Olaplex, but I’m not sure how much it helped. A woman that I follow, loves it, and uses it regularly. My hair has improved since then. I take hair, skin and nails gummies, use flax oil in smoothies or kefir, a few times a week, or every day. I also try to stay hydrated, but I still don’t drink enough, often enough to keep it going. I also use a basic colour-safe moisturizing shampoo and conditioner.

I’ve been toying with the idea of cutting my hair to chin length, but I think I’ll regret it if I do.

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keratin might help

posted January 29, 2021 07:43 AM            

well, yes scared but I would say more willing to give it a try than determined!

I do use purple shampoo!! even though, also the best ones, make my hair a bit too dry and I try not to use it that much...

posted January 29, 2021 07:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
@Dumuzi I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining!

well, yes scared but I would say more willing to give it a try than determined!

I do use purple shampoo!! even though, also the best ones, make my hair a bit too dry and I try not to use it that much...

@teasel sorry for your issues ❤️ I do know Olaplex! and it's actually one of the products I bought to add to the bleach and also Olaplex 3 as a mask to do after, I know it's very good stuff and I am going to try in any case. I also use argan oil and coconut oil, my hair quality have improved so much since I use those! I also would suggest you a mask called Oro by Fanola to keep for five minutes after shampoo, it made my frizzy ends almost disappear and makes the hair very soft !!!

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i think you're taking me saying arguing to mean being hostile, my bad, wasnt what i meant but i suppose the word implies it

anyway if you want it do it if youre worrief about the retrograde wait but always be prepared to cut your hair off if youre doing something that could damage it

posted January 29, 2021 07:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
keratin might help

i'm terrible with remembering to drink enough ive had friends who would text me just to tell me to do **** like that 😩 this is part of why people think im dead when they havent heard from me in a few days

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MEE TOO !!!!!!!! I am so bad about drinking enough water! That's a good point! I wish I had friends like yours :-)

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i think you're taking me saying arguing to mean being hostile, my bad, wasnt what i meant but i suppose the word implies it

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I was actually afraid you were getting I was arguing as "hostile" while I am actually enjoying this conversation, this is obviously mercury retrograde on its way, lol !

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
[B]anyway if you want it do it if youre worrief about the retrograde wait but always be prepared to cut your hair off if youre doing something that could damage it

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posted January 29, 2021 08:12 AM            

i don't even need the retrograde for that 🤣 but i'm sure that's going to make my life fun

i've noticed sometimes, particularly online, being from nyc can be a detriment when interacting with people

because the ways i think to communicate, words that aren't meant harshly or don't represent necessarily harsh things in my view come off that way to others

they're things that would be overlooked at home as just normal, but in conversation with people from other places it's harsh

posted January 29, 2021 08:20 AM            

(as for me, since I am not english native, it's even easier to misunderstand and be misunderstood!)

posted January 29, 2021 08:23 AM            

Check out some hair level charts and do some research. Blondeme bleach is salon quality and has good lift with the right vol of peroxide for your natural hair base level.

If your hair is medium to dark brown or darker, chances are you will not get to platinum blonde in one bleaching session and if your hair is damaged, its highly unlikely your hair will handle two sessions. EDIT Sorry I just read your natural is dark ash blonde - this is good for lightening, but it will still pull yellow that you will need to tone. Also, if you have artificial colour in your hair I would recommend a safe colour remover first as trying to bleach this out alone will lead to weird uneven tones and there is a risk of unnecessary damage leaving the bleach on too long to eat through old dye. Look for a colour remover that is not damaging, I've used them before and they stink to hell, but work.

If your hair is not too dark and one session is enough (you need the colour of the inside of a banana peel, very pale yellow from the bleaching) you will then need to think about toning the yellow to platinum. The bleach does not = platinum - that is a toning technique.

Unless you are experienced with this (sorry if you've said somewhere you are), I would recommend reading through this forum to make sure you make the right decisions. Because if you fry your hair with bleach, you cannot repair it, it is dead as a dodo and must be cut off, unless you like the scarecrow look
http://www.haircrazy.com/forum/

There's plenty photos on there of people making bleaching mistakes and how it turns out , as well as those doing it right, so it's good for planning your own bleaching. There's also good information on colour removers and toning techniques.

Good luck

posted January 29, 2021 08:42 AM            

No way I wouldnt ever use 40 volumes and not even 30! I am even scared of 20, lol
I did a test with 7 volumes and 20 volumes on small sections and they both worked out great in my opinion, so I was even considering using just 7 volumes!

Yes, I have got the BlondMe :-) and Olaplex!

I am aware of the yellow issue and I will obviously tone the hair, even though I know sometimes some yellow can still be there, but I am going to use purple shampoo in that case... as I said I made some research and spent a bunch of money on all those possible remedies when I didnt even decide yet if I will go for it 🤣

The last dye I'm still having on the hair IS the issue! I think I will wait a little longer for it to go away.... Mercury retrograde is my main concern at this moment since this means I will have to wait for more than a month if I want to avoid such an unfavourable energy :-(

posted January 29, 2021 08:50 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Oh but online such things are just business as usual!

(as for me, since I am not english native, it's even easier to misunderstand and be misunderstood!)

what is your mercury and aspects to it? aries involved?

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aries is involved yeah, my moon is in aries

posted January 29, 2021 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
aries is involved yeah, my moon is in aries

my mercury is in leo trine my aries moon/north node/descendant it's also trine my sag uranus, and sextile my venus/ascendant/southnode as far as major aspects go

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posted January 29, 2021 09:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
But this is a very creative/artistic and also psychic configuration with the nodes involved on the axis, sounds brilliant. mercury trine to aries moon is mainly giving a very honest straightforward communication, and if you don't have any harsh aspect such square or opposition to your Leo mercury I don't really see any "harsh" sounding attitude!

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non issue in person, online is where my word choices can be an issue since i can also lack tact and be blunt

just something ive noticed

i have minor aspects to it that i cant remember

posted January 29, 2021 09:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Voix_de_la_Mer!

No way I wouldnt ever use 40 volumes and not even 30! I am even scared of 20, lol
I did a test with 7 volumes and 20 volumes on small sections and they both worked out great in my opinion, so I was even considering using just 7 volumes!

Yes, I have got the BlondMe :-) and Olaplex!

I am aware of the yellow issue and I will obviously tone the hair, even though I know sometimes some yellow can still be there, but I am going to use purple shampoo in that case... as I said I made some research and spent a bunch of money on all those possible remedies when I didnt even decide yet if I will go for it 🤣

The last dye I'm still having on the hair IS the issue! I think I will wait a little longer for it to go away.... Mercury retrograde is my main concern at this moment since this means I will have to wait for more than a month if I want to avoid such an unfavourable energy :-(

Thanks a lot for the forum link, it's certainly helpful and I'll give a look! :-)

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Ah. You should be just fine then. Sorry for the redundant parts in my post, I was in a hurry! Worth checking out that forum anyway. If your hair comes up light enough Fanola No Yellow should do the trick - it's amazing for toning (I've tried 'em all ). Just don't leave it on too long, unless you want to be a lilac elf (which would be super pretty if you're in the mood for it)

posted January 29, 2021 09:57 AM            

Nothing was redundant in your post, you gave such wonderful tips, big thank you!!

I'm not so sure I will be just fine, lol, but I'll let you all know for sure :-D